You do get the feeling that if they lose tonight gthen it might be Huddersfield rather than London that become favourites for the drop. Big game for both teams.

So brave, not a peep for month.

And witnessed 2 teams that played as bad if not worse than Wakefield last night

Probably the lowest quality superleague game of the season. And that includes us!

I see you've still got this obsession with the Wakey board, here's a few results I think you chose to ignore rather than forget.
Wakefield 17 shudds16.


shudds25 Wakefield26.


Wakefield36 shudds10.

Look at the results since magic weekend (when Brough came back in) where we lost 25-18 but could have gone either way.

Saints A 48-10 Brough targeted ruthlessly.

Leeds H 10-0 no creativity whatsoever from both halves.

Salford A 44-20 again Broughs edge targeted

Hudds H 36-10 vital win against out of sorts Huddersfield improving when Brough went off.

Catalans A 44-10 again Broughs edge ruthlessly targeted

Cas H 36-16 decent game with the boot but again cas targeting Broughs edge with success.

Wigan A 46-16 pathetic enough said.

It's seems to me that Brough hasn't fully recovered from his thumb injury so cannot tackle correctly leading to these one sided games obviously Pauli, lyne & Bishop accountable too. He might be putting his hand up but it's doing us no good.

What makes it even more tragic is that this is exactly why Finn was pensioned off.

There are many similarities with Finn/2018 and Brough/2019 but I think Finn was being carried at that time by a team in better form. We needed Chester to wake up at that time to help our push for the play offs. This year we need him to wake up for far more serious reasons.

Brough didn't play at magic, it was Hampshire & Miller together, with Reynolds the one dropped from the week before which was the London debacle, Reynolds hasn't been seen since. I do take your point though, he's been pretty ineffective both in attack and defence. Maybe there is something at the club not being done right as re. recovery from injury, the strength and conditioning of the players in general? It seems to me all the players who have come back from injury seem to be taking ages to get back up to full speed, or seem to play one then miss two? ie MCB, Randell, England. Brough, Ashurst, Miller, Tupou all nowhere near their best after coming back. Not gonna slag Jowitt & Batch too much, but looks like they are going to take ages to get back up to full speed as well. The whole team just looks lethargic and slow, so is it physical or mental.......or a bit of both??

Sorry I meant after magic weekend, which other than Huddersfield has been the last game we've been competitive in for the full 80.

Possibly players rushed back, or putting hands up when they know they're not fit, no reserve games to help get sharp & match fitness. Further knocks etc. I don't think team selection is helping. Eg Crowther a decent defender not selected but Arundel played in 2nd row when he's only just back should have been centre with tupou wing. Also why persist with Pauli? Poor week in & out,too slow and ineffective as an edge defender. Chester doesn't rate or want him so why bother? But fundamentally the basics aren't being done right, and our 1st choice spine 1,6,7,9 simply isn't working.

No probs

Absolutely, it's a bloody good job we've beaten them 3 times isn't it! Especially as 2 of them were by 1 point margins

The whole Pauli thing has been weird, especially going public with his reasons. I'm sure there is a destructive forward in there who if used right could be a real asset......but his body language and his general demeanour just give off negative vibes, I agree he's persisted with him for long enough now, but maybe he won't be playing anyway after his injury at Wigan.

Don't understand why Arundel and Pauli played on Friday when Hirst and Crowther were fit. Surely Crowther is better than playing a centre in the second row and Hirst although lacking the tackle busting ability of Pauli at least doesn't go missing in defence and is always available to take the ball up and doesn't wander around the pitch as if it's just a Sunday afternoon game if touch and pass

Imop it not broughys fault, chester has picked him ,the buck stops there ,hes injured and too old

Prob better posting before the game starts... Hindsight is a fantastic thing.. Which alot of people possess...

Chris Chester must no by now that Pauli Pauli can't be relied on to defend the line . He is just a turnstile.

It is sad that he could have had so much potential as a prop forward but he is so overweight if he could lose a couple of stone and get on the weights he'd be unstoppable, But sadly he is a turnstile and is targeted accordingly.

Broughty again it's a shame he's been a great player but sadly age and injurers have caught up with him and the same as pauli he is targeted accordingly, He probable would make a great H/B coach if they were a position available at Wakey if not i think he would be better served now a bit like finny with a championship club ie Bfd/Halifax.

Unfortunately the way we are playing he may well be with a championship club next season

When we get to name the same team more than twice in a row I’ll let you know.
We’ve had 5 different half back partnerships this season playing alongside three different fullbacks.

With brough- it’s not his playing that’s the issue it’s how he stops others from doing so and causes upsets in the camp. When his pals grix and robbo were around they could keep him calm on the straight and narrow. No youngster is ever good enough in his eyes, he gives criticism never encouragement.

For what it is worth, Garry Schofield thinks Brough needs to be dropped

He’s certainly like marmite is old broughy as Tony rea had him down as a GB half back berth this season

I think we're all forgetting one basic fact which is that our forwards have been dominated for the last 5-6 games and as everyone knows even the best halves struggle to perform behind a beaten pack. Take out big Dave on 1 leg and Tanginoa and the rest just haven't been anywhere good enough...even against Wigan's kids last week.

Until the forwards step up and start hurting in the tackle and making the hard yards our halves will continue to struggle and we'll continue losing

brough still struggling too unlock defences?

no long cut out passes to put the winger in anyway