Very difficult to trust RW if its true about his recent escapades. What I find really unbelievable is that they don't want to deal with MC! He owns the club, how will that work. I really worry that this is just another smokescreen to delay and frustrate and eventually kill our club.

Just what are his motives ???
First of all he sides with Yorkcourt and Box in removing Newcold from the 60,000m2 target, now he jumps ship completely and sides with them again, shunning MC, CB and the club !!!
What is he up to ???

i just don't get it. just wht does R W get out of it. if it all goes ttt up he would go down in local history for all the wrong reasons

All I can think is, he must be so sure he can get it done this time round; otherwise he is going to look like a very very silly man. As if he hasn't got enough enemies to start with, without vexing off Trinity management, Trust and supporters for a second time.

If I'm sat in a shiny new stadium in 2019 shouting as Tom Johnstone does another full lengther then I'll be a happy man regardless of how it got built, and all this will be forgotten.

Can anyone say if meetings are planed between the club/trust/council before end of july.It must be a worry for MC and CB,let face it they have done alot for the club.

Sir Rodney will look very silly if he fails again the second time around! How does he hope to succeed without working with the owners of the main anchor tenants?

I know we all just want a new stadium
I want a new stadium so bad, but not to the extent that I am blind to the blatantly obvious.

Ok. I did my best. Some of those that have gone weren't a problem but commented on the others so didn't fit any more. Nothing regarding the thread title has been taken away.

I also don't see how we can trust the people that have stalled the building of this stadium for years and years and now suddenly they want to have it built by next year! Leaving the people who want it building more than anything behind!! It's a crazy world...

A cracking piece of in depth journalism in today's Wakefield Express ....not.

I was thinking the same - RW does everything in his power to sabotage, undermine and spoil the process, works against the club owners and the Trust, then colludes with the developer to make himself the white knight; and people seem quite happy to accept this, for the sake of it being built - regardless of the cost.

Unbloodybelievable!

But the alternative is no stadium. It's not right, but let's see what the white knight delivers and at what cost before we march with flaming torches.

I think the time for waiting to see what happens has been and gone a long while ago. He's had 7 years to make things happen and so far we've seen jack-all.

I really am struggling to understand why you think he can suddenly do something different????

I've just been to Asda and bought a box of matches

Because he's bolted from the Trust and established a new one. That tells me that he's spotted a finishing line that wasn't there before. For whatever reason, he thinks he can best deliver it on his own. It might be hot air, or he's spotted a financial opportunity, but something has clearly changed.

The club has given him a month. I'm of the same view. If it's all hot air, that's when the scapegoating begins. If it isn't, it's simply a case of assessing the costs involved.

It's like when the buyer of your house drops the price by 10K on the day of exchange when they know you're committed to buying elsewhere. It's a disgrace, but sometimes if it's the only way to sell your house you've got to suck it up and get on with it, as the alternative is not moving.

Correct; and as if we have a choice anyway. Which they know

Suddenly big talk about a health club on the site, would RW have his fingers in that pie?

Critical thing will be the presentation of the terms of the stadium lease - if they try to manipulate it so the club are not the beneficiaries of match day revenues from catering, parking etc then they will I'm sure be told to poke it. The current trust has set out exactly what is acceptable, this must not be deviated from or will only end in trouble.

"It's like when the buyer of your house drops the price by 10K on the day of exchange when they know you're committed to buying elsewhere. It's a disgrace, but sometimes if it's the only way to sell your house you've got to suck it up and get on with it, as the alternative is not moving."
I see the analogy but what happens if losing that 10k means you can't actually afford the new house without going in to hock and setting yourself up for financial ruin in the future? That's what worries me. There's no point us having a nice new stadium if the income streams are depleted so much or the rent is so high that we can't thrive as a club. And your comment that RW may be acting the way he has because he may have spotted a financial opportunity!!!! If that opportunity is to feather his own nest at the expense of the club and community, I say stuff him, move to Dewsbury and let's take it from there. Having said that, you're right, let's wait and see what materialises and then get the torches lit!

'This must not be deviated from to any degree where it makes the growth of the club not viable"

If ego has dictated one move, let's not have ego dictate another. Take a cold and clinical assessment of what's tabled and move from there. The morality or frustration of what's involved shouldn't matter. It's about adding up the numbers, nothing more. The club will move on, ownerships will change.

That's what I mean about looking at the figures, not the morality. If someone feathers a nest, does it matter if we get to feather ours too?

I agree Slugger. I see what you are saying now.
We should try for the best deal we can for Wakefield Trinity but not at all costs. There has to be middle ground and unfortunately we may have to compromise on some things.
If the proposal is not feasible then we should say so and walk away.........but not altogether, we have to remember we want a stadium and if we have to give up some revenues to get it, no matter how unfair we should consider it on purely the numbers.
I'm sure MC is quite capable of that. What worries me is that they are blocking him.....for exactly that reason.
It all needs to be above board to be able to consider a compromise.

Not in my book. As i've said previously we have to come to a deal that suits BOTH parties as quite simply without that the stadium won't get built, end of. And ultimately it will be us who are the big losers out of the situation if that's the case. We can't take any deal thats offered but in the same way neither can we expect everything in our favour, it's just isn't going to happen.

I think we're saying the same thing actually. As much as it may be tailored towards some benefit towards others that wasn't otherwise anticipated, it's got to be of benefit to the club. Don't walk into the deal because there's nothing else. That's merely postponing the inevitable. Equally, don't walk away from the deal purely because it wasn't quite what was envisaged.

One question: is it of benefit to the club. The only question.

I'm not meaning to come across as a RW apologist. I've met the guy just once. I say I met him. I think he looked through me. I'm just aware that mistrust and high emotion has come into the equation. That should be taken out of it. All I want is a club in Wakefield that will one day, in some near future, be successful.