Doesn't excuse the continually shocking discipline.

I am not going off what we think players positions are (Annakin) is played at prop by Agar majority of the time.

Or the god awful completion rates we churn out.

Well that's a new one on me , listening to descriptions of a touchie who has bowed legs and looks sixty...

Any remaining tiny glimmer gone, 40-18. Glad they don't have much of a goalkicker.

Terrible

Mathers in t'bin

Mathers sin-binned for professional foul.

46-18

Just a question: what does Richie Mathers actually offer the team?

Gets better, Kirmond off injured.

Wakefield did well to only concede 6 points with twelve men. They need to sort out that attitude for the other 70 minutes. If they hold out till the end of the game they go into next week with a period to build from.

Try to Lyne after a steal by Sammut.

Godinet is still getting used too how the oppositions line moves up not as much time as in NRL to use the ball. He'll get used to it though, reads the game well.

Who is the crazy one? You're probably right it is me willing to support this garbage.

I meant Agar not you

A player who blames things that happen on other players and doesn't have the bottle to catch a ball on the full.

Finished 46-24.

Very disappointing!!

On a positive note Godinet and Sammut seem to have performed and created lots plus kicked the goals?..

It was always going to be difficult today but if we can't get 17 out of our best 19/20 players in the squad onto the pitch week in week out then we will continue to struggle. The ones we do put on the pitch must play only in their natural positions IMHO. Shulver is a prop was he injured?

The pivots will struggle if we don't have the ball in our hands through all the errors/ penalties conceeded to the opposition or our forwards don't create the go-forward required for them.

Wigan seemed to score off virtually every error or penalty we gave away in the first half...

I fear that is a question that only Mr Agar can answer.

Unfortunately it appears Mathers is one of the untouchables when it comes to team selection.

Mathers as discovered by numerous coaches is a very poor fullback.

But the team problems start and finish with the head coach and the board who saw fit to extend Agars contract last September.
The defensive and attacking structures seem non existant.
Discipline is poor.
Team selections are verging on the ridiculous.
His teams seem tactically naive.

Most coaches fall into one of two brackets,tactically aware or motivators,a few having both qualities,but Agar coached teams appear not to be tactically aware or motivated.

Irrespective of the quality of personnel we have,i fear for us this season,because Agar quite simply doesnt possess the attributes to turn that personnel into a decent team.

Ive no doubt it will be trotted out...................give him time,so the team can gel.We dont have time and even if we did that wont alter Agars lack of ability.

In a nutshell,many of us shook our heads in disbelief when he was appointed,he was gash then,he was gash when he was given a new contract and he will still be gash at the end of this season.

Max Jowitt debut next week?

Agars neck on the line me thinks. Not sure you can blame him for everything but he will pay with his job if things don't improve over the next 3 to 4weeks. I'm not one to put the boot in but many will. I would have liked to have been able to judge him without any off field issues, resulting in on the field issues. His team selection seems to come in for the most stick, but does he have that many options. Anyway I didn't expect a result today, but you do expect effort. It would seem too many players had an off day. It's also strange how some players go missing when the chips are down. Next

The contract extension when he still had a year left was the puzzling one for me.
We read reports that the players 'like' him.
Maybe this is the problem.
Some get preferential treatment whilst others get the short straw.
He seems to be able to spot good players but doesn't know how to get the best out of them.

Kath Hetherington influence?