just been on radio aire, said 'no dis-respect but i dont want to play with the 20s so i'll get first team time with Wakefield [uor whoever' [/uWow, thats nice!

player peaked then went RU

waste of time poor signing IMHO

No lose situation FACT if he plays well then fantastic, if he doesnt he goes back in a month and we know that should leeds want rid then we dont sign somebody on a 2-3 year deal who wont/cant perform for us.

Yes could be good for us but if not its only a months loan.Not looked anything like he did before he went to union but some times a change of club can make a differance even if its only a months loan.

Pretty much how I see it, if he doesn't pull his weight and look good he'll find himself sat on the sidelines for a couple of weeks, it's in his own best interests to impress, whether it's us or any other side.

hes that good he cant get a game in a very poor Leeds side bad move by Agar we want players who want to be at Wakefield send him back and give the kids a chance

Considering Gotcha is usually so pessemistic on our board it's strange to see his arrogance in one of his favourites' qualities. Hope Smith goes well for you.

Agree, although I'm not all that keen on this signing, especially when we have youngsters in our squad desperate for a chance. If we are keeping our options open regarding Mathers or any alternative then this is a sound move.

Please don't assume all Leeds fans are as arrogant as Gotcha has been on this thread.

As for Smith, Ive spoken to him a few times as I coach his son and he comes across as a decent lad.
Sadly he hasn't performed well (barring the odd one-off) for a long time. You'd have to go back to 2008 to find his last consistent run of good form and then he was almost on his way but his performance in the Grand Final that year got him another year before he went to union.
Sadly I just can't think of any area where he excels. He's not particularly big, not particularly strong, doesn't have outstanding handling and has most certainly lost his pace.
Gotcha was also being silly claiming the only reason he's not in the Leeds team because his face doesn't fit or because the other players are regular internationals.
His face fits fine at Leeds, he isn't a disciplinary problem at all, the problem is his ability and performances have declined sharply.
If he was as good as Gotcha claims then he'd have been first choice to replace Webb when he got injured. Also Hardaker, Watkins & Jones-Bishop can't be classed as internationals yet.

Its great for Leeds, we get Smith playing at a better level than u20's. Not quite sure what he brings to Wakefield other than steady-as-you-go.

It was probably a mistake going back to Leeds where the expectations of him were so high. A few good performances at Trin could reignite his career, although his fitness levels are a worry. For backs, speed is king.

On another point, to any Leeds fans (or coaches), please ignore the posters on here suggesting Aiton and Amor are any good. They're lucky to get a game at SL level. It's only because they play for lowly Wakefield, anywhere else they'd be in the 20s. Nothing to see here.

Without a doubt, very lucky.

But the players in front of Smith play for England so it's a similar situation. Apart from Webb of course but he is only selected to argue with the ref and give away penalties.

Anyone know the date for Amor if Leeds do want him back?

We don't.

In fact he's the only Leeds fan being arrogant (and rather pathetic) on this thread.
Thanks for your input

I like smith, young and english, bags of tallent and isnt afraid of bringing the biff, if he can recover his pre Ru form then I think he will be a good signing for us,

He always looked best in the centre so hopefully that's where he'll play

Welcome to wtw Lee

www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news ... n/2012/07/ =#FF0000“He will play centre this week"

www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news ... n/2012/07/ =#FF0000“He will play centre this week"

Still a bit of a kick in the teeth for the younger players on the fringes of first team action. I imagine Walshaw will cover Mellors absence, perhaps Cowling could’ve covered Collis', at the very least for this weekend. Instead we get an out of form bit part player who clear doesn’t give a damn which club he plays for as long as he gets game time slotting in ahead of the younger players who will have been working hard all season to get their opportunity at SL level.

During the first half of the season it was quite apparent that only injury to regulars would likely be their way into the first team, this seems to suggest that Trinity will bring in scraps from other sides U20’s team before Agar will consider them.

I think we have to be realistic.
If anyone had told me just after administration that in just over a year we would have ex England players ie Fox ,Mathers,Lee Smith and Sykes in the team combined with Ali and Tim Smith I would have thought they were having me on.
We cannot expect,yet, to be attracting top tier players , but those players who, for whatever reason are not fitting in at their present club.
Players still young enough and hopefully with something to prove.
Yes I appreciate the argument about bringing in the youngsters, but it has to be gradual.
Agar has , after all given opportunities Walshaw and Trout.
If they are good enough they will come through.

I agree.

Trout is a good example of this. He looked ok when he started but also looked raw and a bit small. Playing him, then dropping him has actually helped him get used to the play without being mashed all the time. I quite like the look of him now and think he is getting better all the time.
I am convinced that if we'd just thrown him in and kept him in he would be battered by now.
Walshaw is the same. He has holes in his play but is getting there. Personally I thought he owuld have been better at centre but clearly Agar sees more of him than I do and has made his decision.
If we'd thrown them in with other kids, reducing their protection and the competitiveness of the team, they would have all been demoralised by now.

I'd like to see more players come through from the academy but only when they are ready and only when the team is ready for them.

My interpretation was he was referring to playing in any position rather than any indifference toward the club.



Given both 1st choice centres are out a sensible move IMO. Welcome Lee.

Yes , I too interpreted Smith meaning that he was not too concerned about the position he played in as long as he was playing.

Smiths been there and done it,this weekend isnt a game to blood youngsters, weve tryed that as a club in the past in situations only for those players thrown in to only vanish soon afterwards. matty wray, mark barlow david white 3 examples from the patched up side that played the bulls all thoses years ago.

Danny Cowling is still injured from the broken finger he suffered a few weeks ago, so wouldnt be elligable for slection yet. Lucas Walshaw is clearly being moulded into a second rower, and given his size who can argue, so again i think he wouldnt be a good choice for centre currently. Aside from them two, who else of our youngsters could play centre? possibly Liam Kay but against the likes of Carmont?! it would be a bit unfair... aside from the fact he is a 6 or 1, not a centre.

seems a good signing given current circumstances

Lee Smith is exactly the type of player we need and RA is to be congratulated on acquiring his services. He's young and done everything- just needs to kick on from here!