I don't think that anyone - including Ted - thinks that new investment is needed. There's been plenty of threads on the subject in the last couple of years and every time it's generally been accepted that we aren't going to see anyone seriously coming to the table until the 2012 franchising is known.

If we get a franchise then the realistic investment needed (rather than purchase price) to take us into a position where we are seriously challenging from honours each year will be upwards of £10m over a period of 5 years or so. If we don't get a franchise then it probably only needs a couple of million over 3 years with a couple of million more when we get a franchise back just to compete at SL level.

Either way this investment is something that whoever takes over the club will never get back, so it needs somebody with VERY deep pockets who has a genuine passion for the club. Given that there's a distinct absence of Bentleys & Ferraris around BV on a match day it's probably a safe bet that anyone trying to count the potential investors to replace Ted would have fingers to spare on one hand when they'd got around the ground (not that it's hard when you only need two hands to count the total crowd

).

Like I said, Ted has his faults (many of which he will admit to) but one thing that can't be denied is his love for the club.

dont talk utter bollox. you think he has nothing back. ted, di, david all take a wage from the club. and if you think he wastes his own money on the club your mad.

.......and your estimate to what would have needed investing for the same playing return this time last year?? or more importantly close season after 2009, think you have a pointnow though, we are maybe a million a year behind where we were then.

Totally agree with the above. The sad fact about it is a) it has been allowed to get to this and b) that certain sections of our fan base are willing to put up with it cos Ted tries really hard and loves the club (even though he doesnt seem to have a clue about how to run a professional sports team) and despite JK packing his bags and having the taxi to the airport booked, they are happy to let him stay because they dont think anyone can do any better than him (desipte the 3 wins in the last 20 games !!!) .

you cant say that tricky youll get sent to the backof the class and have your bum spanked, you cant tell the truth on here.

Can you offer that section of fans an alternative to TR and JK, a simple yes or no will do.

We can't boycott the club (well i can't) so what do you suggest we do to change things, i don't disagree "times up" by the way.

The truth is whatever you believe it to be and no bum spanking will take place.

daryl powell for jk has for lord ted hel have to be carried out in a box. or anyone with some sense will do

Al
think the time has now passed where a viable alternative can be brought in and be a success sadly, no coach or investor in their right mind would come in now, however a year ago they probably would have, I got off here for a while because of the Newmarket will save our day mentality, it wont and would never have without a solid playing platform and the core fans that go with that, we had all our eggs in one basket from 2009 and now the basket has a bloody great big hole in it, i will always respect trb and others for what they have done for my club but in the end somebody somewhere got the economics and maths wrong, I fear now our best hope is a drop out of SL and a steady recovery over a period of time,no thats not our best hope, its our only hope.

this sort of thing will only upset what fans are left, may i suggest a st trinians day for the first home game???

We got greedy with JK when we tried to get compensation - he wanted to go, he should have been allowed to. AL there must be another coach out there who can bring some fresh ideas and some entertaining Rugby - if they only won 4 games out of 20, it would still be an improvement.

Re Ted, he hasn't got a pot to pee in, we are told he hasn't put money into the club for a while and therefore we would not be missing his investment if he were to step aside. That said, I accept that at the present time, we do not look like a viable proposition for potential investors. However, his family members and hangers on occupy a number of jobs at the club, which i presume as others do, is paying them a decent wage.

If Ted really loves the club, then he should at the least dispense with some of these people and use the money saved on their wages to bring some people on board who have some business nouse and can instigate a more professional running of the club and improve the image of the club at the same time.

I would ask whether certain people would still have jobs at the club if they weren't related to Ted.

optimistic as I am, Its hard to disagree with what you are saying.

If someone does not want to be at the club (JK) then i agree he should have gone and if what you say is true then yes its a mistake imo.

Ted, well i'm finding it harder and harder to disagree with some posters and maybe its too late for the club, maybe i'm guilty of playing a part in it, i just don't know.

Warren Jowitt for coach - had only 40 grand for the full squad at Dewsbury the last 2 seasons - won every game in his first full season & then kept them in the championship despite a bad injury list early season. ( apparently team budget been halved for this year ). Assistant French coach ( ok they lost to Wales ! ) & ex player . He'd probably say "sod that" , but a better option than what we've got IMO . (no I'm not his agent / dad !)

As for Ted's money - I heard that when he was asked about his iva , he was asked about how this would affect the club ? He said it wouldn't as he never put any of his own money into the club anyway !!

An example of what I mean about employment at the club :

Not sure of the full circumstances surrounding his departure, but the media guy left (John Huxley) and was never replaced to my knowledge. I am sure that we would all agree that a club like ours needs to employ a media savvy person to control what is released to the press and equally as crucially the timing of the same.
Had we someone with the right skills still on board, then they may well have controlled the "fall out" from the decision for a PI much better than Teds ill advised rant at Cas at the beginning of a week they submitted their full PP.

I am sure that the wage paid to Ted's daughter would be better spent on a media person?

what about him in the shop. then theres james and eric and franny and the other 2 birds in the shop, and kears daughter,

I'm not sure about JH, don't want to have ago but just what did he do in his time at the club, some would say its wasted money anyway, although he could possibly have controlled the "fallout" better than teds rants then fair do's.

No idea what Di does or what she gets paid so i'm not going down that road.

Mopsey just hang fire will you, this boards not here for you to crusade against Ted and familly, lets discuss the rights and wrongs but you are not going to use this board to attack family members.

Thank you.

Could certainly get rid of a couple in their - the disinterest and lack of knowledge is amazing from a couple , but ( as discussed on a earlier thread ) the blonde haired lass is top notch and deserves better IMO .

without getting into a slanging match could you please tell me where ive attacked family members and yes some of its your fault, because when i stood as a lone voice on here you didnt believe me as did nearly all the other posters, who thought i was just bitter. well its about time we all stood together now and demanded change before we lose our club forever. some people need a backbone and to show some balls. if some of you lot knew half youd never go again.

yes its your fault, entirely and no one elses!
problem solved we can move on to a brighter better future

together without al we are stronger

Al

its alright you saying that mr cheerywave pants but who exactly would you get in to support the club in the way Al has?? eh eh.
maybe if al ever says he want to leave for say er france or anywhere we should turn on him and not support his supporting anymore, until then Im behind Al, where its all safe, AND BOO TO MOPSEY WHO IS HORRID TO AL AND SHOULD BE BANNED AND NOT ME PLEASE AL, THANK YOU OH WISE MODERATOR.

thats why were doomed

i think we are all kidding ourselves in believing we have a plan B cos i dont believe we have,i think we should all get used to the idea of nl rugby after this season thats if we still have a club, we got lucky on franchise last time but we wont this time around anybody who thinks differently are again only trying to kidd themselves.not only is it gonna be our last but it will be our worse and we will finish bottom as our squad is probally the worst we have had in superleauge we have no real quality and no strenth in depth.i have bought both my sons season tickets so will be attending all home games aswell as many away as possible,but i dont imagine ill be wlalking out after a win.

as for TOGETHER WE ARE STRONGER that is the clubs way of trying to milk money out us the long suffering fans again while they still have a chance to