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| Quote ="SimonBarrett"Calm down!!
And for the record, why is my "head up is booty"??
Is it because l am not blinkered enough or so one eyed to realise that sh#t happens in life!'"
S.B why is it that you attack my post and called it 'petty' and when another poster posts the same you approach the topic in a different manner?
Anyway, perhaps it may of seemed a harsh initial post and a personal attack on Tronc, i am very disappointed at him. He may well be a little home sick, but it as many a poster has said, it seems a very good reason to be released from his contract and return home to play in the NRL (for his dream club) I can not say I blame him for wanting a return to the NRL with the Bronco's, as I think Brisbane are very much the Real Madrid of rugby league, so the attraction would be there to any rugby league player. However, if he was deemed a piece in there jigsaw they would of made salary cap arrangements when it was announced he was leaving the NQC- and I stand by that.
I just feel he is been used as a quick fix solution to an injury crisis, very much like Wigan did with Wilkes and Jordan James in 2006?- in my opinion, when players return to fitness he will be a squad player playing rarely. This in itself is a major issue for me, because he is such a key player for our team to just a squad player. This coupled with the losses of Brough and Newton may well turn the season. Ultimately this is lowest I have felt regarding Trinity for a long time.
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| Hello turfedout or MR F!!! You know me too well mate. Only just discovered this website as got booted off our own forum years ago for being too outspoken. as for barnsley that was just a vicious rumour!!!
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| Last game Quins 17th of this month ?
[url=http://forums.rleague.com/posts/showthread.php?s=481f2dd15b0509e1133a589c6d0bac22&p=1023377#post1023377Australian Fans Forum - With Quotes[/url
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| From that quote:
Quote THE Broncos are confident they will have former Cowboy Shane Tronc stitched up for a return to the NRL by next week.'"
Interesting choice of words; I don't think it's Mr Tronc that's been 'stitched up.'
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| Quote ="adiedep"apparently as the story goes flights are booked and its not down to homesick wife> its to do with the club not coming up with what was promised eg quality of accomodation etc. shouldnt we be looking for a quality replacement with all the money that doesnt get spent> transfer fees for brough and atkins, where does it all go??? come on ted give the supporters of wakefield trinity something to shout about and put your short arms in your deep pockets. 22 quid friday fair enough we won but dont take libertys to make a quick buck out of 8500 fans
and not gives us anything in return. What looked like our most promising season for years is falling apart at the seams and by the look of it its down to greed!
'" what a load of rubbish the guy has actually said he has no gripes with wakefield. i am pretty sure they will be looking for a replacement for him with all the money you refer to but in my opinion the sooner he gets his butt on the plane the better and let the players that want to play for wakey play.
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| It's hard to criticise the club here, because it's a stark choice: retain an expensive player (I presume he isn't cheap) who doesn't want to be here, or let him go. If the club takes the view that it is better to cut your losses, then fine, because seing Tronc going through the motions with his bottom lip out all year is an expensive way to stick to your principles. On the other hand, you can accept that it hasn't worked out and let him go, compensation or no compensation. If you hold out for compensation and don't get it, you are stuck paying his wages and probably getting less and less value for your money each week.
Maybe they'll replace him, maybe they won't, but I presume that will be down to who is available. No point in spending the money just because it's there, because I imagine running Wakey's finances is like spinning plates, and I guess no one gets involved with Wakefield to make money.
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| Quote ="adiedep"Hello turfedout or MR F!!! You know me too well mate. Only just discovered this website as got booted off our own forum years ago for being too outspoken. as for barnsley that was just a vicious rumour!!!
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Hi mate,just be careful you dont upset the mods on here!!!!!!!!!
Being outspoken is ok on here - once you have 4million posts.
Are you going to France in June?
I will PM you.
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| Quote ="MR BROWN"what a load of rubbish the guy has actually said he has no gripes with wakefield. i am pretty sure they will be looking for a replacement for him with all the money you refer to but in my opinion the sooner he gets his butt on the plane the better and let the players that want to play for wakey play.'"
He also said he was settled not long ago!!
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Hi mate,just [ube careful you dont upset the mods on here[/u!!!!!!!!!
Being outspoken is ok on here - once you have 4million posts.
Are you going to France in June?
I will PM you.'"
Good advice you would make a good Mod sir
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"It's hard to criticise the club here, because it's a stark choice: retain an expensive player (I presume he isn't cheap) who doesn't want to be here, or let him go. If the club takes the view that it is better to cut your losses, then fine, because seing Tronc going through the motions with his bottom lip out all year is an expensive way to stick to your principles. On the other hand, you can accept that it hasn't worked out and let him go, compensation or no compensation. If you hold out for compensation and don't get it, you are stuck paying his wages and probably getting less and less value for your money each week.
Maybe they'll replace him, maybe they won't, but I presume that will be down to who is available. No point in spending the money just because it's there, because I imagine running Wakey's finances is like spinning plates, and I guess no one gets involved with Wakefield to make money.'"
It would seem to be irrelevant, but if we were to hold him to a contract and he played with his lip out, he is only diminishing his own value. I agree though that it isn't the preferred option. However, as the link to the aussie forum suggests, he's still performed well despite the homesickness. Yes that form may have dropped off now, but that has been since his head has been turned.
I really don't think we should release without getting something in return though. The homesickness may be an issue, but would he be so concerned about it if the chance with the Broncos hadn't turned up? If that had been the case, you could keep playing him and release him if his form dropped so badly. Chances are though, his itch has been scratched by Brisbane, and as a wealthy club I don't think it would be too difficult to play a little harder with them and get something in return. I'm sure his agent would work at that just as much as he's worked on us to get a release (assuming the comments on their forum are correct).
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| tronc is upset at the profesionalsim at the club or lack of it. which is not hard to understand we dont exactly have the best set up ever im sure all the players talking about going to quest after a friday match is not what he is used to in queensland.
let him go, get some money for him, sign charlie leano, stop crying and get on with it
TRIN TILL WE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Sun Bed Kid"tronc is upset at the profesionalsim at the club or lack of it. which is not hard to understand we dont exactly have the best set up ever =#BF0040im sure all the players talking about going to quest after a friday match is not what he is used to in queensland.
let him go, get some money for him, sign charlie leano, stop crying and get on with it
TRIN TILL WE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'"
Of course not - it's 12,000 miles away!
However, if they're so professional over there, how come there's been so many sex, drugs and booze scandals in recent times????
I think it is exactly what people want it to be - i.e. if Tronc wanted it to work - he could have made it. Surely the idea is to bring your own standards to the club - that is why you try and bring the best players in, isn't it?
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| I've been to the Redback and seen how those dirty convicts party. I'd have thought Quest would be a luxury.
He really ought to appreciate the progress that has been made. It's not that long ago our esteemed owner could be seen strutting his stuff in Mustang's. Not in an M&S suit mind.
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| Whatever the reason if he doesn't want to play for us and we aren't getting anything for him sack him off on the next plane and get someone in who actually wants to play for the Club. Dress it up how you like but he's hardly given it a chance, pathetic.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Please elaborate as to why this is a pathetic post?
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Well not wanting to get stuck in an arguement on this, and of course you have a right to your opinion, however, the reason I said it was pathetic, is not your opinion at all, it's the way you make it personal to Tronc.
He is doing a job same as anyone else on this forum. The fact that we all enjoy watching him do it and are then disappointed when he doesn't, is of no relevence to him (though many players take pride in that).
He has decided for his own reasons that it is not the job for him. He hasn't taken money under false pretenses. He has been one of our best players this year.
You have no right (in my opinion) to make the email personal.
Quotes like
"never ever have I been so angry with the way a player has conducted himself"
"his wifes home sick bullpoop is just a front"
"The way he has masked his desire to join Brisbane behind reasons that his wife isn't settled is just pure immaturity"
and everything after this point.."not getting personal or anything but......"
are why I think the email is pathetic.
If you'd have said your opinions without making it personal towards him, then I wouldn't have even commented on the post. I am disappointed myself so would in some way agree with you, but the reasons why are nothing to do with us.
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| Dont know what's been said (not going through 6 pages) but vthe few comments I have read are to say the least ill informed. Is it not possible that the club has not fullfilled all it's promises to Shane, and his story of the wife being homesick is to save the club face??
Might not be true, but until people know all the facts they should reserve judgement on the lad.
Charlie Leono anyone??
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| Quote ="PopTart"Well not wanting to get stuck in an arguement on this, and of course you have a right to your opinion, however, the reason I said it was pathetic, is not your opinion at all, it's the way you make it personal to Tronc.
He is doing a job same as anyone else on this forum. The fact that we all enjoy watching him do it and are then disappointed when he doesn't, is of no relevence to him (though many players take pride in that).
He has decided for his own reasons that it is not the job for him. He hasn't taken money under false pretenses. He has been one of our best players this year.
You have no right (in my opinion) to make the email personal.
Quotes like
"never ever have I been so angry with the way a player has conducted himself"
"his wifes home sick bullpoop is just a front"
"The way he has masked his desire to join Brisbane behind reasons that his wife isn't settled is just pure immaturity"
and everything after this point.."not getting personal or anything but......"
are why I think the email is pathetic.
If you'd have said your opinions without making it personal towards him, then I wouldn't have even commented on the post. I am disappointed myself so would in some way agree with you, but the reasons why are nothing to do with us.'"
Well without wanting to get stuck into an arguement with you also. We'l agree to disagree, I have read the post again I can see why you have got your back up- however, the points remain the same sir. I do feel that it is kind of relevent that he has become home sick within the last two weeks, the same two weeks where the interest is shown from brisbane!- THEREFORE, I am angry with the way he has conducted himself, if he said 'at 28 there is not a better opportunity for me to join them' i would of been disappointed but not angry. Simple really, sorry if this post offends you yet again!
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| Today, my mate told me that he served a young Kiwi/Ozzie lad, who claimed he was over for a trial with Wakey?- I don't know if this bull from the guy he served but I was just wondering whether anyone knows anything else about this? My mate works at a well known sports shop on the retail park, and the guy was wanting some footy boots- It just seems abit strange that a lad trailing for a superleague team would have no boots! My mate thinks his name was Kurt or something along those lines.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"Today, my mate told me that he served a young Kiwi/Ozzie lad, who claimed he was over for a trial with Wakey?- I don't know if this bull from the guy he served but I was just wondering whether anyone knows anything else about this? My mate works at a well known sports shop on the retail park, and the guy was wanting some footy boots- It just seems abit strange that a lad trailing for a superleague team would have no boots!
My mate thinks his name was Kurt or something along those lines.'"
I'd assume that was the lad who is already playing in the academy, Kurt Wilton I think he is called. Someone said he was originally from England, or at least his family was.
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| Kurt Wilton...............maybe he just wanted some new boots
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| Quote ="bloomers"I'd assume that was the lad who is already playing in the academy, Kurt Wilton I think he is called. Someone said he was originally from England, or at least his family was.'"
Spoil sport that had all the makings of a classic RLFANS rumour!
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| Quote ="J.T"Spoil sport that had all the makings of a classic RLFANS rumour!'"
Going on what is being alluded to on here, a better rumour would be Ted had Tronc and his family living in the new bottle bar cabin, after originally promising him Heath Hall.
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| Quote ="bloomers"Going on what is being alluded to on here, a better rumour would be Ted had Tronc and his family living in the new bottle bar cabin, after originally promising him Heath Hall.'"
More likely Ted has had him kipping on the floor of the Red Shed which he didin't mind until the fat man came back from Germany and moved in with him...
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"if he said 'at 28 there is not a better opportunity for me to join them' i would of been disappointed but not angry.'"
You are spot on there...if a player is honest and wants to go, so be it.
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| Quote ="Outwood Vic"Dont know what's been said (not going through 6 pages) but vthe few comments I have read are to say the least ill informed. Is it not possible that the club has not fullfilled all it's promises to Shane, and his story of the wife being homesick is to save the club face??
Might not be true, but until people know all the facts they should reserve judgement on the lad.
Charlie Leono anyone??'"
If it is a case of broken promises, makes you wonder what he told him. Its also a pity we can't rectify the situation and do what we said we would do and then presumeably he would stay.
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