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| Simple to be honest your constantly asking were the money coming from so you must know the state of the finances.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Simple to be honest your constantly asking were the money coming from so you must know the state of the finances.'"
I haven't got a clue about the state of the finances, but I don't need to be a financial genius to realise that the club live within their budget, which will undoubtedly have shrunk to a great extent due to having no fans in the ground and all the other financial streams lost due to covid, I'm not constantly asking where the money is coming from either, I'm asking you and you alone, somebody who is constantly complaining about Mr Carter and his refusal to meet the demands of such as yourself with your petty outbursts, I work on the simple philosophy if it's needed and the money is there he'll do his best to make it happen as he's proved in the past, he's an accountant what knows the state of the finances not me or you, time for you to grow up grandad and live in the real world for a change.
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| Think your M C slappyjack or maybe a very very very close friend or relative.
So if we are living within our budget what is it.
Once again a simple question.
Go on spill the beans
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Think your M C slappyjack or maybe a very very very close friend or relative.
So if we are living within our budget what is it.
Once again a simple question.
Go on spill the beans'"
I think he's told you about three times that he has no idea.
Keep it going though you two. It's great fun.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Think your M C slappyjack or maybe a very very very close friend or relative.
So if we are living within our budget what is it.
[uOnce again a simple question.[/u
Go on spill the beans'"
Assuming that I could, If I gave you a simple answer to your simple question, I doubt it would be that simple to you unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I think he's told you about three times that he has no idea.
Keep it going though you two. It's great fun.'"
I've told him my names not happyjack, that's my pet African grey name, but he won't believe me, having had the misfortune of getting embroiled with the old boy the other day I just said where's lampychops, now all I get at home is where' bl**dy lampychops, I can't get away from him
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| Slappy simply don't respond to my posts in the manner you do and we will never have to have a conversation again although I would probably miss putting you in your place and making you look foolish.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"=#FF0000Slappy simply don't respond to my posts in the manner you do and we will never have to have a conversation again although[u I would probably miss putting you in your place and making you look foolish[/u.'"
My last post on the matter old boy, it would seem that having spent the best part of eighty years on this earth, you still haven't grown up and still revert to name calling, I bet you were a little bugger when it came to knocking on doors and running off in the long and distant past, however I digress, as for making me look foolish which is the only reason I've replied to your childish post, your simply out of your depth, and having said that on reflection, you'd probably be out of your depth in a car park puddle
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| Thanks for your insight and informative twiddle slappy, of which I will not take the slightest notice.
Stick to music and when you grow a pair come back.
No backbone you youngster.
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| Quote ="happyjack"Never realised it was that easy, surely with your obvious financial expertise and business acumen you could point Mr Carter in the right direction, it would seem he's missed a trick here by not finding a roll for you in the management of the club, I bet you and the other financial geniuses on here along with the armchair coaches could turn it all round in a week or two, not sure what you'd find to moan about then though.'"
It's not that easy but good business make it happen by bringing in the correct people rather than just saying we have limited funds Etc..
When a certain high street supermarket were struggling a few years back did they stop stocking the shelfs and selling cheap food or did they re structure and get the correct people on board to make it work.
Yes it's hard but investment needs to be found its as simple as that
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| It’s hard to believe that the missing players could make much difference. Am sure that somewhere in the club a new recruit is being chased but the two loan players seem a waste of money and an insult to our fringe players who would hopefully have bust a gut for a chance.
Brad Walker and Ollie Greensmith for a start.
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| Quote ="Manuel"It’s hard to believe that the missing players could make much difference. Am sure that somewhere in the club a new recruit is being chased but the two loan players seem a waste of money and an insult to our fringe players who would hopefully have bust a gut for a chance.
Brad Walker and Ollie Greensmith for a start.'"
Which one of those two would play hooker and which one would play fullback?
Are you one of those who talks about square pegs in round holes.
I thought that both our recent loan players did well on Friday night.
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| Would sacking Chester help if it was Last or Poching I doubt it
Trinity are hopelessly exposed and light at prop and in need of quality hooker
Players like Fifita and Tupou are not performing but Chester fails to drop the pair of them they are both playing on past reputation.
I think Chester’s time is up but the club is skint and unless some Arab wants to invest it’s not going to change
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"Would sacking Chester help if it was Last or Poching I doubt it
Trinity are hopelessly exposed and light at prop and in need of quality hooker
Players like Fifita and Tupou are not performing but Chester fails to drop the pair of them they are both playing on past reputation.
I think Chester’s time is up but the club is skint and unless some Arab wants to invest it’s not going to change'"
I don't think he has a better alternative at prop but fully agree about Tupou.
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| Do not agree think B D is going ok When he first came he had a 6,7,and 9 that could put him in to space at present he is just been used as a battling ram.Same with Tupou we had a 6 ,7, and 9 who could make a overlap .The passing of the ball as been so slow this season that teams have got time to move across so he is allways coverd.Any good coach would have fixed this
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| Quote ="phe13"Which one of those two would play hooker and which one would play fullback?
Are you one of those who talks about square pegs in round holes.
I thought that both our recent loan players did well on Friday night.'"
Jowitt to remain at full back and Walker at stand off; then pegs and holes become singular rather than plural.Of all the things spouted about the current situation the one thing I can't get my head around is the exclusion of Brad Walker. There's something not right here; he showed so much potential at the end of last season I can't understand why he hasn't been given a go thus far this time around.
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| One big failing that I have seen in our attack is the number of passes that are pitched so that their trajectory line is in the form of an arc or parabola, reaching its highest point somewhere centrally between the passer and the receiver thus taking almost twice the time in flight than a "bullet" type pass. More a "lob" than a pass.This obviously allows the opposition much more time to make the tackle and slows our attack down greatly. It's a fault I tend not to see in the Wigans and Saints of this world.
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| Quote ="Emley Cat"Eh? What have last seasons finishing positions to do with this season? It's 17 against 17 every week against teams we've beaten on numerous occasions in any given season. Who are we "allowed" to beat then? Why have we got to take into account who we are playing? Total nonsense! We blew it against Leeds and Hull, played poor in the second half against Wigan and St Helens having matched them in the first half. And we've lost twice to Catalans, outmuscled in the cup game and went toe to toe last night. But for a dodgy call by Kendall we'd have probably won the game.
Let's have less of the excuses and more fight in the traditional Wakefield Trinity style. We seem to give up now when we concede a couple of scores. Where is the leadership, the fire in the bellies? I'm seeing plenty of effort and I applaud that but come on, we should be doing a whole lot better than this.'"
So you're saying all 12 clubs have equal chance of winning the GF at the start of the season?
Wigan and Saints are the same as Wakefield and Leigh?
Do the bookies have them all on even money before the season starts?
Where teams finished last year is a clear indicator of strength. One or two teams may drop in or out, but when was the last time Wigan or Saints weren't in the top 6?
It's not excuses, it's facts. Some teams are better than others and hence more difficult to beat. No-one says we're not 'allowed' to beat them, it's just less likely that's all.
The fact that we have been competitive against these teams means we can be competitive against all teams are are likely to pick up wins against less strong squads as the season progresses.
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Ok so they only won 2 out of 10 both against us'"
and they also only won 2/3 against Wakefield, with an aggregate score of 70-54 in Trinity's favour.
Cherry picking basic facts to fit an agenda is easy, but you need to look at the circumstances behind them for context.
A big win at Headingly and 2 narrow defeats, one of them a fairly meaningless fixture on a 3-day turnaround.
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"So you're saying all 12 clubs have equal chance of winning the GF at the start of the season?
Wigan and Saints are the same as Wakefield and Leigh?
Do the bookies have them all on even money before the season starts?
Where teams finished last year is a clear indicator of strength. One or two teams may drop in or out, but when was the last time Wigan or Saints weren't in the top 6?
It's not excuses, it's facts. Some teams are better than others and hence more difficult to beat. No-one says we're not 'allowed' to beat them, it's just less likely that's all.
The fact that we have been competitive against these teams means we can be competitive against all teams are are likely to pick up wins against less strong squads as the season progresses.'"
Coco there's no mention of a Grand Final in my post is there? My aspirations are to improve every year, try and get into the play offs and have a good cup run. And what do bookies have to do with anything? Wigan finished below us not that long ago in one of the seasons we were 5th. At that time we were making progress beating them regularly home and away. I remember a 62 - 0 and we beat them the season after at Belle Vue too when Keegan Hirst scored a great try under the posts Why is it less likely now that we will beat them (or any side for that matter) when we have a supposed better squad? You surely must agree that we have gone backwards. We cannot score when on top, we leak tries for fun and there is little or no leadership on the field. I already said I applaud the effort and I hope to goodness it gets us some wins soon but we are sinking fast imo and that is upsetting and worrying for a lifelong fan.
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| We are now one of two clubs still to win this season. The problem is that we have had many years in SL to have put together a competitive well trained squad whilst Leigh had only a few months.
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| The club and Chester have to face reality in so far if the former want to continue with the latter they must loosen the fiscal purse strings and give him more options on the playing front. If they don’t want to do this then Chester must go because he is singularly unable to get the best out of what we have and it is time to give someone with new ideas.
If both prefer the status quo that I personally see a long hard nervous season ahead once again, with this thread getting Longer and longer and the supporters more frustrated.
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| With all the coming and goings of the last couple of weeks, could the saga of Andrew Fifita be the crossroads for CC?
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| Mr Chester wasted the Budget last year . No more 3rd choice players or player reaching there last few years
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"and they also only won 2/3 against Wakefield, with an aggregate score of 70-54 in Trinity's favour.
Cherry picking basic facts to fit an agenda is easy, but you need to look at the circumstances behind them for context.
A big win at Headingly and 2 narrow defeats, one of them a fairly meaningless fixture on a 3-day turnaround.'"
3 day turnaround for both sides no matter what score its still defeats 4 pts for them 2 for us....not cherry picking anything what i say are facts one of the meaningless fixture was bo less meaningless than the other you cant say the one we won was meaningful but the deafeat 3 days later wasnt...oh and no big win at headingley was at saints ground
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