I hate losing to Cas even if it's a friendly. Even last season I would rather have gone full strength than rest players for the semi final a week later. The staff and the players need to to know how important it is as well, and under no circumstances is anything less than a win acceptable. No matter how good or bad either team is.

However, I don't mind admitting they are a pretty decent side at the moment so bringing them down a peg or two would be even sweeter.

I hate losing to Cas too and love beating them more than any other team.
My best friend is a Cas fan and we didn't talk for over two months after the million pound game.

But I also want the best for Wakefield. The most important thing is to be as high as we possibly can in the league and cup competitions.

I'd rather be 4th when Cas are 2nd than 9th when they are 10th.
It would still irritate me that they took some gloss off out success but it is still more success for us.

I suppose the best I can say is that at least you're honest about it vasty. Leeds have always been the traditional rival for Cas (well for my generation anyway) & as you alluded to the rivalry got nasty as a result of the stadium race & relegation. I agree that the previous CEO at Cas did not behave as a CEO should, but that was a two way street. Glover & Elston taking to social media about Cas town (not the club) was as unprofessional as I've seen by any CEO or chairman. The behaviour of all three was a big factor in the trouble at BV a few years back.
The perceived love in between SG & MC is a good thing & I think you do SG a bit of a disservice. As I understand it SG has assisted a fellow novice SL chairman as GH did him when he first took the role on. Professional rivalry is a good thing & they both seem to get that. The hatred you seem to have for us is over the top & simply not necessary or perhaps I've mellowed, having in laws as wakey fans.

Why shouldn't vasty be honest and forthright in his views on all things Cas, he clearly despises everything about them as do a lot more on here.
Personally as far as your club goes it's no different to any other, most if not all of them will shaft us given the opportunity as has been proved since the birth of SL.
Your club has probably the best coach in SL and the players' aren't shabby either so what makes me and others despise the club, we took a lot of stick from your holier than thou fans on here over that smoke bomb let off by those two idiots at Cas, but were as expected quite hypocritically silent in their condemnation of their own fans, they were quite understandably silent when your fans did it at Bellevue, that along with the bottle throwing and the homophobic chanting your club was fined for, I can live with that to a certain extent but what I find unforgivable was when we beat you 21-0 at your place when on the way out the Wakey supporters had to endure children in front of their parents spitting at us trying to goad us, not to mention the women and children subjected to the glass throwing by those hero's outside that pub, there was one Norny lad in particular steady who you probably know your in laws do, Kev Snell cracking fellah took one right on his forehead and then ask yourself is vasty really over the top.

Yes it's an age thing!!!☹️

Im not saying he, or anyone else, can't be honest & if you spoke to the Cas fans I know you'd have heard the critical condemnation for most of the things you've listed. Unfortunately hate breeds hate & to continue to rile up oneself &/or others will only fuel the idiotic behaviour; can't you see that?
Perhaps the biggest difference between us though is that I don't really see that much of a difference. For every horror story you've seen, I'm sure I or another Cas fan could enlighten you with one just as bad where a wakey fan(s) were the perpetrator(s). I don't feel the need to have a measuring contest over who has the most idiotic fans; I just accept that there are plenty at every club, & go about my way trying to change their attitude - & for what it's worth I've had to pull up Cas fans inside & outside of grounds & will continue to do so regardless of which club they support or which town they're from.

Having worked with Cas fans for god knows how many years, I'm afraid it's Cas for me with Whinos a close second

Totally agree Steady.

I personally don't "hate" any club. I take more pleasure out of beating Leeds and Cas than beating any other team in a league fixture. When it comes to it, then it would mean more to me to beat Leeds than it would Cas. Again, it could be an age thing but Leeds is a bigger scalp as far as I am concerned.

All clubs have idiots. I have a strong passion for my team and go through many emotions about them through a season. I do however have the perspective that it is a sport and only a game. No need for violence or bad behaviour.

I'm not saying I haven't, or still don't, get caught up sometimes (my thoughts on Ben Thaler shame me!) but on the whole aren't we supposed to grow out of it?!

Think the reaction of our fans compared to their fans, towards each other's new stadium plans says a lot to who are the bitter haters and also who's most scared of each other's potential.

Sorry Steady I know your one of the more reasonable Cas fans but this alleged rivalry with Leeds is a one way fantasy.

Leeds united fans have a similar delusion with Man United but it's a one way rivalry as mufc fans have no interest in Leeds at all and never did have.

Up until the 1970's Wakefield were Leeds big local rivals Cas didn't register at all. Then when peter fox took over Bradford in the early eighties Bradford took over - again Cas never registered.

Then in SL it was deffo Bradford but some attempted to create one with Cas probably Eddie Hemings.

Truth is Fev are your historical enemy we are your current one like it or not. Unlike us Leeds want trophies and beating Cas is just another step on the ladder, that isn't a rivalry no matter how much you big yorseves up.

Leeds are generally a top four team and there rivals are the other top four teams at the time - so if you live up to the expecatations of some on here you'll have a bit of fun but don't kid yourselves. Leeds fans look down on Wakefield as a backwards town god only knows what they think about Cas.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you just make up the numbers like we do.

You're wrong about Man Utd and Leeds.. they sing about Leeds at nearly every game. The famous We all hate Leeds chant.

Nope. Liverpool is the massive rivalry.
Leeds are nowhere near that.

No im not I've supported Man U since 1972 and I've been to well over a hundred games and I'll tell you now I've never heard them sing that not even when they play leeds!

I've not been to old Trafford since the early 2011 but then neither have Leeds.

If it helps the list is

Man u

Liverpool by a mile

City

Arsenal

Leeds united up there with derby county.

Wakefield

Cas recently

Leeds traditionally

Wigan for prestige

Castleford

Fev

Batley

Runcorn Highfield

You don't know what you're talking about, been to enough LUFC manu matches in my time to know there's a big rivalry and they still sing about hating Leeds every time they're on tv. They knew about the rivalry when they met a few Wakefield whites in Rochdale a few years ago.

A Man United fan...............long silence......then deep sigh.
Makes a whole lot more sense now.

And that reply says it all about you - it's no surprise.

My dad was from Manchester and he got me into them - is that ok or are we going down that route that nobody from Manchester supports united serously that's poor even from someone as tedious as you and don't hide behind your mod status on this one.

If I were a glory seeker aged 10 I'd have actually have gon for Leeds look at the date Man U were about to be relegated!

I stopped actively supporting United in the early 90's because of the cost and growing irrelevance of the premier league and my new love Trinity.

Funny thing is I missed the fergie years but I don't care I had a lot of great memories from a fairly poor era in the clubs history

Dear god I hope I've done enough to justify myself, no really......

Lol. You made the assumption about what I meant and ran with it didn't you.
I've been to Old Trafford many times to watch United. They are a great team to support I'm sure.
My dad is from Wakefield and brought me up to support Wakefield Trinity. The principle is the same. I have no problem with that.

What I was referring to is that you think it's acceptable to 'hate' a team. That's more a football thing than a rugby thing.

No you don't know what your talking about. LUFC fans like to think they matter and that MU sing about them, when in fact I'm pretty sure MU don't give a crap about Leeds, or at least they don't anymore. Like Vastman said, MU are more bothered about Liverpool, City, Arsenal and even Chelsea because of long standing rivalry either through proximity or challenging for trophies.

No bubble burst mate. I'm well aware we don't register on Leeds' radar! most of Cas has a chip in its shoulder where Leeds are concerned; in all aspects not just rugby & I suspect that's why I enjoy beating them more than any other team.

You're not on your own there Vasty, I was another stood in the Scoreboard end in the 70s. Back on topic, there is all ways going to be rivalry and so called hate towards other teams, the hate thing is a figure of speech , a gut reaction, whatever you want to call it but I'm sure, hopefully, that's all it is.

But isn't it the "hate" (strong word) that gives you the atmosphere, a Cas v Wakey game has an edge/atmosphere because of the hate?
With the best will in the world supporters in general have no feeling whatsoever for a Catalans or Salford, we can take them or leave them, is that why we have no atmosphere for such games? The adrenaline as such isn't there.

I spent 3 years at uni in Manchester. They absolutely detest Leeds. The only Manure fans who don't understand the rivalry and hatred with Leeds are from my own experience the ones who don't actually come from Manchester. Which would explain why a chunk of their fanbase "don't get it". Like Vastman for example.

In other words, the glory hunters.