Agree with the uninspiring Hudds players, but the other signings are at least one step better than what we had. Which is what we are aiming for, progression year by year. There's only a limited pool of players to choose from, we seem to be in a good place Squad wise if the signings of Smith and John come off. Can't complain.

No not right much, so what if we've taken a player or two not able to get in one of the top sides, at the end of the day we are trying to rebuild, so a little perspective is needed, especially if these players are going to be squad players.

I was at wembley on saturday sat with some Hull fans and they did not want Sam to leave they said he had been possibly their best signing of the season consistently played well and MOM on numerous occasions

Quote on Sportinglife today:
'Gentle's first day with his new players will be on Thursday, by which time he hopes to have secured a move away from the club for half-back Sam Obst and signed a replacement.'
Should be some news soon regarding Sam

if rangi is english then obst must be an MBE by now...

he's been here since 2004

So with any luck he will sign for Salford or Widnes this week

That must be tough to hear from your new boss - RL really is a tough business.

Obviously mr Gentle doesnt rate him!! like one of the players we released that a lot of people think should have been kept on

Tongia?

would be nice to know whats happening with Tongia. if he's waiting for visa you'd have thought it would have been announced by now, same if he's been released/not kept on. Seems to be going on a fair while without any news.....

The talk was he has a contract for next year but Agar wants rid.

Correct !!

Heard that on here too, but still no official update. If this is true, you have to wonder what Agar is playing at letting two good young prospects go already in Howarth and Tongia.

Ball playing forward and a flair fullback/winger? Not Agars style i'm afraid. Our new coach is unimpressed with a few of the signings prior to his appointment by all accounts.

everybody else seemed to be happy with the signings made before he arrived. There may be a few disappointed people if we let tongia go aswell, as there seems to be quite a few people anticipating whats happening with this one. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens

How I was told the state of play, be it fact or fiction...

If Smith doesn't get a visa then Tongia will likely be announced and Obst will be our scrum half. If he does get one then Tongia is likely to be on his way if he can be found another club. The coach wants Obst in the squad but can't announce him as there isn't a quota place available with Tongia & Smith on the books. Whilst it sorts its self out theres a chance that Sam could sign for a local championship with a get out clause in place, although there is some interest from the other side of the pennines.

If Tongia can't be found a club and Smith arrives then I wouldn't be surprised if Ben Fisher is signed, not that either he or Obst are really needed.

Just to play devils advocate, we are rather loaded with overseas signings after the recent shopping spree, so if Tongia is deemed surplus to requirements, that's probably one we'll have to take on the chin.

Hmm, hoping I was wrong. I also got told that Obst trained with the team saturday morning and Tongias replacement would either be Richie Mathers or Paul Sykes?

So either way we are signing a hooker that we dont need. Unless were going to be fielding around 3 different teams on alternate weeks im not sure how the youth that hes supposed to be giving games and pathways to are going to get a game let alone a few.

to be honest i was happy to have obst back, but now i think we have far too many overseas players (quota or otherwise). we have a raft of good juniors, and agar had better well bloody use them rather than having them rot in the second team or all out on dual reg/loan deals.

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According to Huddersfield on Radio Leeds, Fergie is going nowhere

I would be more than happy to have Sam back...(as would the wife !!)...I still believe he is Wakefield through and through, and judging by the heartless comments in the above article, sincerely hope we do re-sign him, and when we play Hull, hope he stuffs it right up 'em !!!

( I know there is no room for sentiment in the business world of rugby league, but anyone would think he had contracted the Black Death !!!)

IMO Tongia vs Obst is a no-brainer. We have ample cover in the positions Sam can play, but look distinctly short of options for full back.

Sam should only be coming back if Smith does not get his visa.

Finally, if as some have said Tongia has a contract for next season we should be honouring it, otherwise were just treating him as bad as Hull are treating Obst.

Yep...have to agree Tricky...I would be delighted to have both of them in our team, and if Agar's final moves don't come off, suspect (hope) that we will.