We're playing second rate rugby, so we gate a second rate ref

Based on his previous performances. When reffing our games, our chances of winning just got slimmer

Hopefully Kirmond, Collis and Washbrook will be fit for the Leigh game.

Washbrook is a loss but the rest of the team looks strong.

I'd go with Khlav's team but would start with Kavanagh with Anderson on the bench and I'd start with Crowther with Annakin on the bench as he brings goo impact when he comes on.
I'd like to see Molloy as he is a strong runner in the back row but if he really is having a fitness test it puts doubt in your mind when his injury readiness has let him down so much before. I'd rather go with a properly fit player but would love to see him play again when fully fit.

I hope Jordan gets a game as he's unavailable for the Leigh game due to being in France on England duties with Max,plus if any players are still a bit unsure of injuries then an extra week may benefit them,maybe a selfish thought on my side as well.

He deserves to keep his spot BLM. In an ideal world he would be being given game time with more first team regulars by his side and in a side playing full of confidence. He certainly hasn't let anyone down and hasn't shirked a thing. You sounded one proud dad on Friday night and rightly so.

Looking at the squad and we get another 40 pts put past us then its more clear indication that webster not good enough and he cant use injuries as an excuse now

Still no Collis, Kirmond, Ashirst, Kirk, Pea, Washbrook, Owen, still a lot our of the front row

He'll find some excuse, he always does.

In all my years I have supported the team I have seen many coaches come and go. However I can't remember anyone
who has moaned and whined like Webster. I also think he is the most negative/ downbeat coach we have ever had. I am sure
this negativity has rubbed off on to the players and we have lost mentally before we get out on to the pitch.

I don't expect a win tomorrow but do expect a fighting performance.

Think there is a lot to be said about fitness/enthusiam /motivation and thats where we are seriously lacking imo. Perhaps its in the back room staff where Webster needs some help.

I'm sure Hemmings will let all the viewers on Sky know that we are still 6/7 players out injured, when he laments the loss of the KR players out injured just as he did at Wigin last week.

to be fair, we do still have a number of people missing such as Maurice Blair, Darrell goulding, Mitch Allgood, Shaun Lunt & Liam Salter who all would be in the match day 17, with doubt around campese, larroyer & big dane tilse as well.

Safe to say I am not expecting a classic. The pressure is all on us as well as this is the only home game we had had in 2 months, ( 4 weeks before, 3 weeks after) all been away. Turns into a dogfight then you guys can have a real chance, especially if you turn up with the right attitude. Glad kirmond and collis are missing to be fair, they always do well against us.

Safe trip travelling over if you are coming.

Spot on Jack. If the coach is implying he doesn't expect his team to win then the players won't be too disappointed when they lose.

I don't buy into the media thing about us waiting for the middle 8. I know Webster said it but it was a throw away comment that has really been blown out of proportion

BUT, I absolutely agree about his personal style.
Even when he was assistant, I was lucky enough to be in the legends suite a few times and when he came in to do his chat with Elston after the game you'd think we'd lost every game by 50. He was quiet and non committal on everything and showed a total lack of enthusiasm (especially next to Elston as you can imagine)
He may well be dedicated and enthusiastic on the inside, but I have to say as someone who leads teams at work, and has Captained a rugby team, enthusiasm from the leader is 90% of how enthusiastic and determined the team will be. You don't have to be the clown, but you have to be passionate and show energy.

I like some things that Webster has done with the team, but he needs help in that area, and unfortunately his Captain is a similar character, being an effective but quiet achiever rather than an exuberant leader.
It's something that can be trained in my opinion, but it has to be learned fast otherwise it will be too late for him.

To be fair 8 players,7 of which would be playing is a big loss to any team.

I could not agree more, my comment however was aimed at Hemmings and the rest of the clowns at Circus Sky, imo if Wane had not taken Mcollorum off you'd have been in danger of eclipsing our score at Wire, I quoted your game because rughead kept on defending KR using your injuries as an excuse for your poor performance and at the same time although nearly a month ago still managed to highlight as he does every game our poor effort against Wire as a comparison but failed to mention at any time the horrific injuries we have suffered in, and that does not include the 4 we lost in the week leading up to the saints game.

That's my take on it as well but in contrast Powell's attitude at Cas is so laid back he's almost horizontal. Win lose or draw he is always quiet and unemotional in his post match interviews but it seems to work in his case but not with Webbo.

Agree 100%,they only see what they want to see,time they were binned IMO.

It's not a throw away comment when he says it post match two weeks running as he did. That shows that it is his mindset and it is one that has filtered through to the players and to the fans. You are correct in what you say about the rest of his demeanour and the hope that this will just change at the flick of a switch come the middle 8 is fanciful imho. The rot has set in already and i have no confidence at all that Webster is the man to turn it around.

Indeed. I have to say I like to support the manager and give him time to develop along with the team but his watershed is this next two weeks for me.

Would you rather win tomorrow against KR or keep the Wembley dream alive against Leigh.

For me, I'd rather scalp Leigh next week (or win both

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I'd obviously want both,but,to beat Leigh would be my pick just to shut their arrogance up

It's about putting in a good performance tomorrow for me.
Basics right, build pressure and try to control the game instead of panicking and giving possession away.
Hopefully that will take the team into next weeks game with confidence back in their own ability.
Possibly the biggest factor in how we perform tomorrow, is who will be named Captain?

ld expect to see much more effort from our half backs what ever the combination may be. Smith seems to be well below what you would expect . For me H K R would be a team I would expect to run close and we are more than capable of beating them. The whole team seem to be short on ideas and Smith could and should take this type of game and run it.
Its about confidence and using this game to bounce back, I want to see a massive effort from all.