I don't agree that Kear is either an idiot or sulking and trying to make things worse.

I do think that the kids are not ready yet and putting them in to a big derby that could end really badly can break both their spirit and physically hurt some.
You don't just throw kids in for the sake of it.

Likes of Morton can handle it so play him yes. I think I would have played either Moore or Wildie but you can't just throw people in on their debuts just because you don't like what the senior guys are doing.

Some are most definitely ready. It would be reckless to make wholesale changes but 1 or 2 each game should get bench spots. John Kear has presided over these academy lads and talks a good game but delivers nothing. There is never a good time to introduce young lads into the squad but they must learn the hard way just like many before them as this will strengthen them as individuals and make them aware of what they need to do to compete. Didn't do Gareth Ellis any harm!

Nothing wrong with giving some a bit of time on the bench.
Publicly dropping some players could end some of their careers - well some realy do need it ending the effort they have put in.
Didnt do Gareth Ellis any harm - nor Albert Firth in his time.

What I do want to see is Tongia at FB. I don't care if we have no place kicker on the pitch (Vievers) we don't need one anyway as we cannot score try's so they are not going to need converting.

If that's the reason, it's partly why we seem to not be producing players to play 1st team rugby. The strategy of winning pots is all well and good, but if the academy isn't producing players ready to play in Super League, there's no point to it.

Does it matter if we win the U20s? No. Does making the play-offs, progressing in the Challenge Cup, putting together a team that can compete in the top flight? yes.

So which one of our youngsters are you saying are as good as Ellis or Firth?

None!! We're drawing similarities between when they got their break in the first team and the learning curve. He is one of the youngsters given a shot in a team regularly beaten. The time will never be perfect, but we should at least give them the opportunity rather than wrap them up in cotton wool.

Thats the point, nobody knows because they aren't getting the same chances as Ellis or the other fella.

I certainly don't think that JK is an idiot.
With regard to giving young lads a go, take a look at the squad I suppose it depends on your definition of 'young' or relatively inexperienced; for me 8 out of the squad fall into this category ie PJ, Dean, Morton, Gledhill, Howarth, Vievers, Wildie and Tongia. Surely there must be a balance?
Also, with all due respect to Gareth Moore, I'm not sure where all this hype regarding him is coming from. A couple of months ago he was a part-time player in a lower division team, he's just coming back from an injury lay-off and to be fair on previous first team outings he's not been particularly a stand out (perhaps someone could give a view on his outstanding performances in the reserves as I've not viewed these games). Yet some are expecting him to be the catalyst for the upturn of the team.
If you were the Castleford coach what would you do if GM was in the team, I know what I would do (and what I know about tactics is negligible), I would taget him with a few big guys running at him and unless he is something very special then his attacking ability goes out of the window. I would leave GM for the future, with a good off-season, he may be part of the answer with better around him.

Even though Gareth Moore was a part time player in a lower league, tommy Lee and smith still couldn't lace his boots ! That's how bad Kears selections are and How bad our half back situation is !!!

You must have seen a lot more of him than I have

Have to agree, he is the carbon copy of the young danny brough, this guy will be one of the best if we give him the opportunities

That's the point, what are you basing this judgement of the new 'messiah' on?

If you were the Castleford coach what would you do if GM was in the team, I know what I would do (and what I know about tactics is negligible), I would taget him with a few big guys running at him and unless he is something very special then his attacking ability goes out of the window.
Just like Nathan Brown

did in his home debut against the Giants, Griffin told me a day before the game that Brown and co had drilled it into his players all week to target GM, hence the attention he was getting when he was lining up a kick on the 4th or 5th tackle by Kirmond, Unfortunately for Huddersfield it failed massively due to GM having a blinder and getting MOM and scoring the majority of points in that game also a very good kicking game too . If you were at that game you will know what i mean ? And as a part timer for Batley he received the NL young player of the year award broke all point scoring records and played Internationally for Scotland, I dont think you get all these accolades from playing tiddlywinks,
Having said that ''PHe'' you make some good points !!!

I think the thing with Moore is that he showed some glimpses of creativity in the few games that he played. The reality is though it's not about what people have seen from Moore it's what they haven't seen from Lee and Smith on a regular basis. There is no creativity so by giving Moore another shot at least there is a possibility that something might happen. No one with any sense is suggesting he is the messiah or that he will turn the team around but he has shown more in his few starts than Lee has shown all season. As for his defensive it cannot be as bad as Lee's so again I would say he was worth a shot. The final point is that Moore is actually a half back whereas Lee is a hooker now call me old fashioned but when things are going badly and you have a pretty poor squad the last thing you need to do is play players out of position if you don't have to.

Dont you think coaches at every level from Junior to academy, to championship, to Super League have targetted him or every other scrum half or pivotal attacking force in the sport for years already ? I have watched him through the Leeds Academy for years, so your 'expert' evaluation of how you would 'beat' wakey is a little flawed as I dont recall in the games he played there was any negative feedback on his defence, because in the highlights I have seen the 'leaks' appear to be on the opposite side and i think that is the point people are making

Don't see any value in sides having to 'target' GM in a team which includes such poor defenders as Dean, Smith, Lee, Rinaldi, Henderson, Griffin,Korkidas etc... Its not like you need to look or work particularly hard to find a way through.
Whilst I know GM is neither the Messiah nor the finished article I would rather pay my money to watch him develop as a player as opposed to suffering the 'efforts' of seasoned pros like Smith, Lee, Henderson etc etc

You're sounding like me!!!!! I think if Kear has been given a secret nod by Cas then why should he give 100% for our cause. It won't hurt his career to see we get another hiding has the damage has already been done. I think Kear's lack of pride and loyalty has rubbed off on the team something chronic this year.

Don't flatter yourself. His is a fair and reasoned point. What you post is just relentless personal vendettas mixed with pure lunacy.

FWIW - before we dig into Kear lets just look at who else is to blame for this and is getting off very lightly. Glover and Elston are being totally spineless on this one. Why not just send Kear on gardening leave. Let Morrison or Dury run it what harm can it do. If this is an attempt to show Kear who's boss it's a spectacular mis judgement IMO.

This is a farce from all three of them.

No vendetta old chap, just if I were a Trinity fan coaching Cas with limited time there I might pick a few suspect sides! Stranger things have happened in the world of Rugby League, and I say it tongue in cheek like rebel rebel might have been, so no need for your perpetual insults.

Rather ironic considering that you don't go to games. Will you be taking up the £100 season ticket offer now Kear is going?

I disagree completely. John Kear has been fantastic for this club since he came in 2006, but this season has been a write off before it even began. And regardless of what the license decision was, there was never going to be an incentive for either the players or coach, who all knew they would be leaving at the end of the season anyway. But for Glover to put Kear on gardening leave would be humiliating to a coach who has given so much to the club over the last 5 years, one who has guided us through some of the most difficult times imaginable. John Kear deserves a lap of honour at the Bradford game for what he has done for our club, which without him would have been in Championship for the last 5 seasons. And I include this season in that, as some of these players should not even be playing Super League, never mind winning games.

The team I want on the field is the one most likely to win games. We could win two out of the last three games (Cas and Bulls) and play Leeds the week after Wembley. I don't want to finish bottom.

I don't see the players day in, day out, and so I don't know which is the best team, but I don't buy the idea that we should lose with plucky youngsters, to see how they go.

I would be more concerned about their judgement if they just let Morrison or Dury run it for a couple of weeks. As has already been suggested to send Kear on gardening leave would look rather shabby and be a tad unfair to Kear as far as I'm concerned.

If this is the only negative you kind find with Glover and Elston at the moment then it would appear that you are clutching at straws. The season ticket deal looks like a belter and the stadium plans are going ahead it would seem so Glover looks to be putting his money where his mouth is but you seem to be finding it hard to give him any credit at all. I know it's early doors and nobody is asking people to bow at his feet, though some are, but he deserves a bit more credit than some seem prepared to give.

Nothing tongue in cheek about my original post, LA. Like I said, I'm not in a position to comment on the performance of individual players when I haven't seen them play, but even from my vantage point, it doesn't take a genius to see that things aren't working. To persist with the same players week in, week out, on the back of numerous hidings, can't be doing anyone any good.

Personally, I can't see what harm it would do to give young players who are ready to make the step up (or who have already done so) a run out in a game like this. I don't claim to be an expert, but when you have an overseas signing who's a recognised full back and playing 4 games at the end of the season with the hope of an extended contract, then you need to play him at full back to see what you're getting. When you have a young scrum half with a good kicking game who's already played 1st team rugby, played well, by all accounts, and offers you creative options, you need to play him, especially when your other options are shot. The same goes for any of the other lads who might make the grade. What is there to lose?

I just don't get it, which is why I asked the questions.