Cue desperate rugbyball and a pathetic picture to boot!

Probably being naive here, but how does keeping stum strengthen our position? I think a lot of supporters, myself included, are getting twitchy because it all seems to have gone quiet over the last few weeks. It's not a criticism as such, but I would favour an open and honest approach rather than keeping stuff up our sleeve.

When do you expect we can expect some positive stadium news? Are we days, weeks or months off?

Cheers

It's a fair question - but very difficult to answer.

We / I have attended various meetings 'in confidence' - some good / some not-so, but there have been no 'show-stoppers'.

Timescale - also very difficult to say. There's good reasons to push ahead and good reasons to be patient - but whether to push or wait is a decision for others to make - we are merely supporters.

Stay positive!

Thanks for the update. Trying to stay positive - but some good news to cling on to would sure make it easier.

Apologies to seem negative here,but some of your comments dont fill me with optimism.

"fighting every inch of the way" -- sounds like we are fighting a losing battle.

And the section on what we are campaigning for -- i thought we had done all this.
I thought the reason it had gone to planning was that it had already been established that Wakefield needs community stadium,better facilities,newmarket was viable etc........
I was under the impression that we now just needed PP to be forthcoming.

Sorry TRB,but this sounds awfully like there are doubts now over the whole thing.
Call me cynical,but have the council now decided they are not sure and are pushing for us to share with Cas at Glasshoughton???

You can read it that way if you like. I for one have never considered the work to be 'done' and always expected that there would be 'moments' before it all came good.

Read my post again - I have clearly said that there are no 'show-stoppers' - i.e. there is nothing which is insummountable.

There are doubts over everything - hence much of the problems the club are feeling right now, but with patience, grit and the determination to see this through - we believe that our 'team' can deliver!

You're not the only one and like newwildcat, I'm slightly bemused at the need to maintain secrecy; it's not as if a rival group will respond by building their own community sports facilities or a developer will swoop in and nick Newmarket Lane from under our noses.

I'm a firm believer in keeping the stakeholders informed and I think that on the stadium issue, the club has got it badly wrong so far; drip feeding us meaningless platitudes (no direspect TRB - your hands are tied) via a fans forum is simply not good enough - James Elston should be blogging about it, honestly and truthfully (unlike the doofus at Cas) on a weekly basis.

1 positive we are further ahead than Castleford. Who keeps putting obstacles up at the meetings? Wakefield need these facilities as we havent got any simple ! We have some great developers its a bloody no brainer to me. York Courts plans are fabulous great access off the motorway its all in place. Leigh, Salford etc bet they did not have these problems I feel sorry for the club because the council are braindead at times we are in desperate need we are the only thing keeping Wakey on the map I cannot understand the trouble. Yorkcourt have built some great developments they must be thinking why are our council taking so long. Surely they are getting a bit twitchy now??? So you are totally against a protest in the town centre TRB? I just think it will look good and show we are not duck eggs and sitting back thinking we don't care. I am getting so twitchy now along with many others !!!

Didn't say that - but timing is key. Keep your powder dry a little longer.

Any protest will be one of 'support for the proposal', rather than anything else.

Don't worry about Yorkcourt - no twitchiness anywhere in sight!

I really dont get it.

"There are doubts over everything"

People have been led to believe that all was required,was outline planning for the full development -- which would in turn fund the stadium.
The people seem to believe funding was in place and the development was viable.

There is quite clearly more to this than can be discussed on a public forum,but ive got one quite sick feeling in the pit of my stomach.

Planning has been put back until September -- whos decision was that???

This is starting to sound more like Durkar/Thornes Park fiasco over again.

Im going to have a gamble now and take a guess at:

The council no longer want to support the development,hence why planning is delayed.The council would like to see Wakey and Cas share at Glasshoughton and will support that scheme.I reckon the fighting every inch of the way,is to try and convince the council to support the Newmarket scheme.

Let everyone know when the timing is right the clock is ticking. Well obviously its going to be in support of the proposal whose against it in a Wakefield shirt?? A protest for the ground going ahead will help give us some much needed ammo if you ask me. St Helens went through the town centre that helped them so im sure Wakefield can.There have not been many times Yorkcourt have failed we have got some great developers. Just hope common sense prevails.

I am for a ground share but why at Glasshoughton it should be on the border of wakey and cas or wakey we are the city cas are the town you don't hear Leeds saying what about Armley what about Hunslet do you? Leeds are for themselves like we should be Cas should like it or lump it you don't like the ground in wakey or the border then tough. I will once again blame our main council leaders been from CAS, its pathetic.

IF the club had certainty over the approval and timing of Newmarket - as in signed and sealed contracts with delivery dates on them - then we wouldn't be worried about a licence and we wouldn't have any trouble recruiting players - would we?

The reality is that the deal is not done and, whilst we anticipate approval for the plans, there is no certainty until it is done. Until that time we have to keep the pressure on as much as we can - and that is what we are doing - SWAG / the club / the developer and the Trust.

TRB & SWAG: Keep up the good work, I hope those twitchy people will twitch over to The Cats Bar when PP is delivered, because i think TRB and Feline might be owed a few drinks...

The rest of us mere mortals: CHILL OUT!!!! HAVE SOME FAITH!


(Monthly blogs; LOL- someones been at the "Richard Wright Big Book of Management!- Lies, lies and more lies!!!)

Ok, I may be a negetive person of late, but look at this way,

Cas
over the last 15 years have had everything they wanted. Millions upon millions have been spent on cas. The grant funding for Cas Panthers, Lock Lane, and next Fryston is huge, swimming baths, that new bridge at another x amount of pounds, and the infrastructure at Glasshoughton, the exscape complex, the list goes on.

Wakey

No pool, every amateur club is a disgrace in terms of club house and facilities, my club included, no funding for anything, a total and utter disgrace.

The end result ( Nostradamus)

No new ground in Wakefield, forced to play out of Glasshoughton, thanks alot Mr Box, call me a miserable pratt, but I am 150% convinced we will get the shaft the first chance they (council & RFL) get the chance

like custers last stand

why should we (Cas) like it or lump it, as far as i know we have never been after a ground share and i definatly dont think it is a good idea. also you are the only one as far as i can see that has been on the cas board begging for us to share with you. so i ask again why should we like or lump a ground share, infact no i will not ask i will just say that from my point of view we will lump it mate.

Right then, If we're onto J32......

Cas don't actually have outline planning permission.
They need a compulsory land purchase to build a stadium on their proposed site as it needs a new link road, the owners of the land needed are unwilling to sell, so Waystones and Cas petitioned for the council to front the money for that (to be payed back at a later date). Still no word on that to my knowledge.
They still have massive restrictions on selling The Jungle in terms of the chemical licence, which will still be months if not years before it is revoked.. And according to "posters in the know" value the land in the region of 4 million+ (which in itself is laughable).
They don't have funding. Detailed designs are still not complete..
And to top it off... The application that was reviewed in Nov 07 will become null and void in less than 5 months, RW insists a detailed application is due any day, but so is his blog!!!!!

Top and bottom is there is much more work (and money to be spent- public or otherwise) to get J32 off the ground than Newmarket.

And journalist or Cas fan that insists they have outline planning permission is wrongly informed and wide of the mark (At least until Waystones act upon conditions that were set 3 years ago).

How come everyone is going nuts for that gravy? It's nice but wtf?

I think you will find Castleford have had thier outline planning permission for some time www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... 6292495.jp Yes I belive their is some negotiation regarding an access road however the scheme itself has been given the green light. If and when it will happen that is a different story, however Cas are infront of Wakefield on the planning permission front.

I think you will find Castleford have had thier outline planning permission for some time www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... 6292495.jp Yes I belive their is some negotiation regarding an access road however the scheme itself has been given the green light. If and when it will happen that is a different story, however Cas are infront of Wakefield on the planning permission front.

tbh i aint fussed about the gravy! good old Ketchup for me! oh and NGB4C get a life you moron it was not a direct attack it was more a tongue icheek comment..... you know the kind... how would you say it....erm.... haha is that better?

get a life and go count your annual earnings seen as you go on about them so much. you swap sides of the fence so much youve actually pushed it over ffs

This is why you should like it or lump it because you have had everything your way! GOOD post my friend.

TRB,with time being such an important factor,why has planning been delayed??

Ongoing issues and details to be resolved. TBF it took Cas 12 months to get outline - we've only been at it for 6.

We don't like the delay, but - assuming it is dealt with in September - it will be OK.

Quote ="tropical1"=#BF0040I think you will find Castleford have had thier outline planning permission for some time www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... 6292495.jp Yes I belive their is some negotiation regarding an access road however the scheme itself has been given the green light. If and when it will happen that is a different story, however Cas are infront of Wakefield on the planning permission front.'" I think you need to do some homework. It is resolved now, as Waystone have signed the 106 agreement, but before then it was an approval in principal only. Cas are indeed ahead of Wakefield on the planning front at this time.

Quote ="tropical1"=#BF0040I think you will find Castleford have had thier outline planning permission for some time www.pontefractandcastlefordexpre ... 6292495.jp Yes I belive their is some negotiation regarding an access road however the scheme itself has been given the green light. If and when it will happen that is a different story, however Cas are infront of Wakefield on the planning permission front.'" I think you need to do some homework. It is resolved now, as Waystone have signed the 106 agreement, but before then it was an approval in principal only. Cas are indeed ahead of Wakefield on the planning front at this time.