I'm disappointed with the loss but at least the 'perfect people' on RLFans have got chance to say something. It was really quiet while we were winning.

Couldn’t have put it better. Getting pinged twice in possession is criminal, the crossing errors & ball steals etc jeez. CC says he likes the players to play what’s in front of them, but for me that’s great when you’ve got world class players but Trinity, well it would be nice to see some signs of coaching & a game plan!

He's been in the squad for 5 yrs.
Has he [iactually[/i played at FB for all that time?

Played 80 first team games now and turned 24 years old. He’s not an inexperienced kid anymore. He needs to make the most of his runs in the team like this, i’ll back him to bounce back next week.

A club like Wakefield need versatility from players to make the budget go further.
Max fits into that category, plus who knows what his contract is?
Would it be on a par with Hampshire?
Who would you have for the money?

He's been one our better and most consistent players so far this season.
I dont get why so many people are so bloody short sighted.

He was phenomenal against Leigh 2 weeks ago and certainly helped us win that game but, now, some have him down as public enemy number 1 and question whether he should be in the side. It's ridiculous.

if you look at our results and above all performances over the last two years they have not been great. It’s created bad feeling amongst the fans and every single player as been heavily criticised in this period, fafita, Miller, rocky, crowther and TJ was slagged off for getting injured and called chocolate the other month. At the moment I think the players are much better thought of if they are not playing cause as soon as they return it’s open season and someone to blame. The saying is your only as good as your last game and if you set your own standards and fall well below them then questions will be asked m.

Top post fully agree some of our 'fans' or so called fans are a disgrace the bagging and blaming is poisonous at times.

100% agree support the team stop knocking them at every opportunity. Some keep saying we don't have a clue in the opposition's half and should score more. Unfortunately it's not that easy Couple of weeks ago we were beaten by Warrington but we managed to score 18 points against a team of so called superstars. Last night a very strong St. Helens side couldn't muster anything bar one goal. In perspective that makes our attack not as bad as some think it is..

I agree about not bagging players but, on our attack, it's absolutely woeful.
When we get to the last play, our kicks are very, very poor and there is nothing getting set up.

Westerman seems to be the organiser in the side rather than either of the halves.

Most other sides have a plan for when they reach tackle 5 or 6 and try to execute a particular play.
I dont see this with Trinity, not even close.

in the Hull kr and hudds games we seemed to change our style of play to one that suited us, not the typical round back with every play, we played with much more freedom then in the Leigh game and onwards it’s back to the same old stuff. If you look at millers first try a long pass from dummy half and he’s in, the gaps are bigger on the outside and always have been and toupo caused some real damage with decent ball.

We played different against Huddersfield and Hull KR because we had more time at play the ball to shift it out wide, against Cas we where getting tackled as soon as the first man received the ball. Castleford had the luxury of playing on top of us without being given offside where as Wakefield seemed to playing to different rules.

What’s really grating is that Cas weren’t brilliant at all - in fact, it was almost like watching two 2020 Wakefield’s. Had we some actual attacking structure and Ashurst managed to keep hold of the ball we would’ve won that.

Thing the thing that got to me about C as was the time they were taking in the tackle .The ref was letting them get away with it, also been offside at play the ball .But think that was down also to us been very flat at play the ball .Think this is the main problem with our attack

He never has, that's not his game, yet I bet you used to like him.

I'm not saying that I don't like him



To us keyboard coaches, all players have their faults



For me, the exception being Bill Ashurst!

Bill Ashurst had a busted knee. That was his main fault when he was with us.
Gifted player

Well whilst we’re moaning about how Cas old manned us ,get ready for Wigan tonight ,cos they wrote the book on stretching the rules to suite .Are we so wet behind the ears as a team that we fall for this every time ,the ball stealing fiasco that went on against us was embarrassing ,we must adapt/change to different teams and situations but we don’t seem to be able .If we don’t win Wigan’s A team tonight there will be a whole plethora of stuff about Wigan did this and Wigan did that and it’s ungentlemanly .But that’s what good teams do they push the boundaries to win and until we learn to do that we will keep being the chumps

Wigan’s A team?
They are missing Farrell, Bateman Hastings, and Singleton, Hardaker. (Both suspended)
Trinity missing Bill, Kaye, Tanginoa,Westerman and Lynn. possibly Miller, I think Wigan have a better quality squad to overcome the Trinity team missing our first teamers.

doubtful that manfredi will make it.
apparently.

I nkow it's going away from our game but, how on earth have the overseas stars at Saints and Warrington escaped selection for the "All Stars".
Wire have 5 players in the England Squad but Saints only have 2 and neither of these clubs, despite having big name over seas players have had any players picked for the "All Stars".
There certainly seems to have been a fair bit of "horse trading" going on. In fact there is only one player (Hastings) from any of the current top 4 clubs.
It's more like "no stars" than "all stars" and they say that its the small clubs holding the sport back !

Tongue in cheek comment Dunkirk about Wigan A team ,but they’ll come to us tonight with a win at all cost attitude whether that’s bending the rules or not ,we need to take a leaf of teams like these books and give it em .

I know I'm just saying he's never run from deep but in his way he's effective.

There missing a lot more than that, they have struggled to put a side together for tonight and had to recall 2 or 3 young lads to make up there 17.

Farrell
Bateman
Hastings
Singleton
Hardaker

Clubb
Field
French

And don't be surprised if/when the following don't play
Manfredi (Was told after missing last week he needed 4 weeks rest - How he's in the squad I'll never know)
Gildart (Hearing he wont play)

Add to that some rather bizarre decisions about Clarke going on loan and we can't bring him back yet, refusal for whatever reason to bring Hankinson back, Halsall out on loan and can't bring him back and Ben Kilner walking away form the sport 2 weeks ago

Anyway
Lets get this straight - If Wigan had 95% of their team available tonight I wouldn't be confident
When we were 7wins from 7 we were Average at best and down right poor most of them - the last 3 losses are exactly what we've deserved
And although missing 3-4 in each of those last 3 it's nothing like tonight

If you had a full team out it may have been another 62 - 0 jobby (I had a BIG BIG Bet on Wakey that day)
Missing the 5/6 it may help us keep it competitive but my finger is really twitching on the Wakey Big Bet button again!