There is a reason they knock on so much and give so many penalties away. They simply aren’t good enough. They are not up to the intensity of super league.

“Top Dogs” we haven’t beaten anybody this season. It shouldn’t need our incumbents to sack the coach, you would think by now he would realise that the job is just too big for him. We are all supporters but some of us do not like the fact that those responsible for the club have turned us into a laughing stock and ignored what we all could see with the squad they believed could make the 6. I suppose they could have been referring to our average points scored per game.

Empathy is only a minor part of winning. When it is the only part of winning (or losing) then it doesn’t work.

Look at winners in the world of sport. Then compare them to our setup. There is no comparison. Mash backs them every week. He might be pretty ticked off about things, but that’s about it. Look at Alex Ferguson, Pep, Alex Murphy, Craig Bellamy. There are no medals for coming 14th. Or 3rd, or 2nd. These managers will put the fear of your god into you.

Look at schools these days. Everyone gets a medal. It’s ridiculous. There are no losers. I played RL from under 11’s to open age. I was shot scared of all of my coaches, and along with the smart stuff that came with the drillls etc, there was always that overtone of getting the wrong side of the coach. Continual improvement is real. You can see it in the eyes of people like Matt Pete, Rohan Smith, Brian Smith!!, Justine Holbrook etc.

Work for them, they will look after you. Dont’ and you are out.

Mash is still the intern. Way off. Way off.

The expectation of excellence in possibly manifested poorly in some of or fans, but do not ever blame them for seeking excellence.

It's actually getting to the point where I'm not even enjoying watching Leeds v Sts, which is a good game.
It just reminds me how far away from this we are.

And I should have added Adrian Lam. A great coach can go a long way. I’m not pointing out anything we don’t already know,

For all those who say “it’s not the coach who drops the ball”. Take note.

Warrington pumped by Leigh,

Welcome to the world of Wakefield Trinity in season 2023.

And they have better players than we do. It's never just one thing.
We have lots of things to change.

I have just seen the tries, embarrassing if that is what we call defence. It was epitomised by the smallest Catalan player carrying four of ours over the line.
I fear for next week, not just the final score but the fact that it will be broadcast for all to see just how far we have fallen. I wonder if our CEO will give one of his rallying interviews.

Tanginoa suspected broken arm.

Disagree. Why do they have better players than us? Why is it not the coach? How do you benchmark that PT? You can’t just talk down everything everyone says because it doesn’t fit your narrative. This is not a forum for discussion is it? This is supposed to be a democracy, just like sport is and has to be a meritocracy.

Just watched the tries, some of those 'efforts' on show were nothing short of pathetic. Maybe they should have got the tackle bags out when they got there yesterday instead of going sight seeing.

Know the feeling, turned it of after i had heard Wakey score .Why do they not sack the coaches. May not watch the match next week ,we are the laughing stock of S L

I think we're that bad people aren't laughing anymore. There's no fun in pointing the bleeding obvious out.

I didn't mean it wasn't the coach. Just meant it wasn't only the coach.
But are you saying our players are as good? Some maybe but overall not in my opinion. Leigh recruited well, in both players and coach.

And I didn't say you couldn't have your opinion. It's very valid. I just answered a question.

It’s becoming clearer that Apelgarth probably isn’t ready just yet for the head coach role. Probably best thing would be to bring in a strong and experienced good coach for a few years for Apelgarth to learn under as assistant.

I know I'm probably feeding the beast posting this but it is what it is.

Proctor played 35 minutes yesterday at prop.
Tackles 23 missed 2 - 92% success rate. Not bad but could be a lot better.

However. In 35 minutes he took 3 carries. And made 11 metres in total
And gave 2 penalties away.

He's not the only poor performer but as marquee signing he needs to be a lot better to earn any kind of respect from team mates.
He is just not up to it.

Apelgarth will never be good enough to be a S L coach .Never played the game at top lvl . He as no idea how fast S L is .He is just a coach that is good with a blackboard and a piece of chalk .

Quote ="phe13"Max at FB, Will D in the centre. No Gale. https://twitter.com/WTrinityRL/status/1 ... 34/photo/1'" Gale was getting 1,200 a match at Keighley We ok if it is a pay as you play contract

Quote ="phe13"Max at FB, Will D in the centre. No Gale. https://twitter.com/WTrinityRL/status/1 ... 34/photo/1'" Gale was getting 1,200 a match at Keighley We ok if it is a pay as you play contract

Could be too fast for rest of team

He did play at the top level for a few years with us. I do think though he can be a SP standard coach but he spent his year as assistant learning under another inexperienced coach. Needs to do a few years under a strong coach.

Thats shocking, the bloke is taking us for a ride.

As a side note his partner was plastering Perpignan pics & videos all over instagram. Do we know if all the WAGS went or was this game just another nice little stop on the Proctors european tour?

Shame to be talking about the rugby again! The takeover seemed more interesting.
I’ve just cancelled my hotel in Newcastle,
Proctor and Atoni will give Jarrod Hickey some perspective. Didn’t Hickey score at Headingley?
Feeling sorry for DF already. Hiding to nothing really.
In all honesty, MA needs to be moved aside. We are an embarrassment to the game.

Can't blame her for enjoying the trip. At least Proctor isn't on them quaffing the local vino.

So long as Proctor is with the team fulfilling his duties I can’t see an issue with this. Maybe they went for a meal after in Perpignan or perhaps she fancied a day out there herself. I don’t have an issue with it

I turned it off and went to bed, my love for RL has cooled, or should I say SL , NRL is cool