and once again after scoring points we loose the ball the next set !!!!! will we EVER learn!!!!!!!

Now that will look great on Trinity Tv when you watch it back.

As per usual is James Child making it up as he goes along!

keep going boys !!! cut out the mistakes and we can win this

pen after pen mistske after mistake - costing ourselves

our attack inside the 20 is shocking and has been all season!!! sorry but it is - and we are finding out tonight where we actually are in the big scheme of things.

back in the top 8 dogfight.

was great to rest players tonight.

I really do not understand why we would not have played our strongest team available tonight, for me it is the most winnable of all three and we should have gone for it tonight.

Cas will be tough and Hull FC away will be even tougher.

Our defence has gone to pot for some reason.

I'd also get Finn of kicking duties for a while.

Tbh you were no worse than us. We were really poor on a couple of your tries. And Child well he is what he is.

A bit like the Wigan game we never got going, looked good in patches, switched off at crucial times topped off with daft penalties. The score straight after half time did us. Still we've not moved down the league and I can see a good side in us just need to be smarter. How many penalties do you see for players running too high with the knees?

Up the Trin

Need to close the kicker down, Childs killed us in the first, but can’t be blamed for poor tackling technique and ambling back 10. Some laziness crept in during the second for me.

Agree 100% kicking game was poor majority of game yet again no urgency in kick chase and for me something needs to change in the halves for me. We look clueless near the opposition line

We did get exposed tonight out wide, BJB looked to be shellshocked with the two early tries scored by lineham as he came inside and gave them walk in tries.
It was a strange game for us because the lapse of of concentration in the first 2 minutes of each half and the 2 outrageous tackle bursts which gave them 22 points of their 34 it wasnt as bad as the score looked. We did look dangerous going down our left, but in the middle I think they bossed us about for most of the time. The one thing we were short of, and, which he didnt have is an enforcer in the forwards, when they were throwing us over in the tackle nobody got stuck in to get them rattled, we seemed to be waiting to see if the ref would step in, which he did`nt. If we had taken our chances we could have sneaked it, but our final pass went to there players.

Getting away from the usual hysteria of claims of this is where we are standard wise (whatever means) & are in for a Top 8 dogfight, not sure how you can be after 6 games but anyway.Wire after the 100 of thousands they've pumped in with players was obviously always going to improve to some extent, so losing to them isn't the end of the world. We've just got to learn our own lessons from it.

The facts are in both recent away matches we were in in it to win & also while playing away from home to boot, against Wigan and Wire, not exavctly mugs.
Tonight we played well in patches nut didn't start well at all, which for me when we're away from home is so beneficial. We did well to get back into the game towards the end of the 1st half and obviously went in with a lead and all was looking quite well. But Wire came out strong and fired up and it's almost like we weren't quite ready for that at all and went all soft in defence for a bit, which is rare for us this season. Yeah, we could have won had a few passes been caught and few penalties not given buy it is what is, wire over the 80 outplayed us

I know that our first couple of games were riddled with penalties but we'd had generally tided that up to some extent the last 3 games but again we just didn't play the ref, we know what he's gonna be like but we never to it with Childs. Some calls were very harsh imo & some we were stupid. We also weren't completing our sets like we know we can which is a killer.

This bit is more about how we've played so far this season.
ATEOTD We've got two great wingers who can go in by the speed route at the corners, or if we kick correctly they'll contest the ball. A centre in Tupou who is one of the best in the league IMO and between Randall, Finn,& Millar they have got to be creating more in the opponents 20, more than we do anyway and have got to start playing a bit more heads up rugby like we know Miller can do. when he takes on the line and has people going with him, he can cause havoc.

Yes I know we scored 24 away from home but for me, in an oppos 20, the set moves that they should know like the back of their hands with dummy runners, potential runners, also using the big men near the try line as dummies and then switching the attack once or twice during a set. Then the backs and the second row can get on the end of passes by the pivots with also Grix coming in, otherwise, we become oo predictable with the kick to the corner so much.

Today we were able to steer the ship right after the dodgy start and went in leading but to then let them score some easy tries in the 2nd half was really disappointing and that's not what not we're about anymore, That's obviously something that was the biggest let down and I'd bet CC would agree. We are generally quicker all over the pitch and the one thing we do is fight for each other and I didn't see that at times tonight. Usually apart from the odd brain fart teams usually after really earn their points against us.

Also even though Arona came back in, Losing/ not playing Fifita was a big miss as he's the only guy in the side who's making decent meters atm and busting plenty of tackles, something we're not getting from the other Props atm. He also absolutely knackers defences out with the minutes he can play.

For me, we've got to be looking at 3 from 3 at least out of our next six.

Even with the previous wins we just haven't put an 80-minute performance in yet but looking on the positive side, there's one dying to get out.
If we go on to win our next two games CC will look like he was a man with a plan.

People have mentioned the kicking and tbh as much as I love Finny, his place kicking has just been completely inconsistent this year, even before this game he was kicking at just over 50% from memory.

Obviously, has been said before you don't want to be playing your best rugby yet and that was still only our 6th game but saying that you want to see team spirit, determination and the will to fight to stop every point, as well as a gradual improvement. We saw that against Wigan first half, even this game if you discount the start but we've got to sort out or second halves. IMO we're just showing glimpses of what we were doing last year, it's nowhere near as polished & consistent as we need to be.

Anyway we lost at their place lwst year when they were far worse, so the omens are good.

Sounded like a great game today, it's nice to see Trin flying high, I hope you make the top 4 this year.

How is BJB? The radio reported he went down and wasn't moving after his last minute try then coverage ended...

Listened to the game on the radio and they both said Child had a shocker. That said we didn't help ourselves with mistakes especially when finishing sets but as others have said when we put a full 80 in playing the rugby we know we have in us we can beat anybody. Let's hope that's coming on Thursday.

Looking at highlights there were some poor defensive reads from both centres and wingers giving them acres of space. The BMM try was just pathetic defence allowing him to keep going. I would have expected either TJ or BJB to have caught cart horse Lineham well before line. Move on from this and need to get 2 points out of next two which on paper are more difficult games.

A disappointing night really.
Going down by 10 points away at Warrington is not shocking by any means. However, there were 2 try's against us last nigh that we should be utterly embarrassed about.
The BMM effort, although he's an explosive player, was awful and the try straight from the HT re start was just embarrassing.
We kick of and know exactly who will be bringing the ball back at us and yet nobody was prepared to bend their back.

Apart from that, it was a fairly even game although the difference in kicking was there for all to see.

Warrington finished all of their sets with either a kick that they could genuinely compete for or a kick to the side lines but, our were awful.
Putting the ball behind Lineham should have been the play. turning him round and taking some juice out of him.
Although he did make a speedy recovery from laying on the ground motionless and trying to cheat another penalty, to then going 80 metres to score. Even Paul Daniels didn't have a magic sponge that could work such miracles.

Also, I think we need to get a little smarter.
Other sides are milking penalties against us for fun but, we aren't working hard enough to have them awarded in our favour.
We need to fight to get back up when tackled and not just lay on the ground hoping for a pen.

With Cas and FC to come we may be looking ad mid table mediocrity, rather than top 4 challengers and right now, both of those look in far better form than us.

BJB is really being suckered on a regular basis. Memories of the Cockayne on the wing era? Needs sorting.

think fullback is some thing that as got to be looked at. Grix did ok under high ball but is running round the back of our line to make the extra man was so slow he was getting in the way. He should have scored to put's back in front but passed to a Wires player in stead.We seem to not show any thing in the half's do not know if this is to do with age catching up with Finn or timing been off. Pauli and Horo should not be in the team till they are up to speed .Played 6 games and think we look like a team that will not finish in the top 6

First drive apart where he put Philbs on his , Pauli was apauling last night.

Didn't get to the game last night but I have to admit that I have been disappointed with Pauli so far...for his size he should be smashing tacklers out of the way like Big Dave does.

My question would be after the last 2 games both of which you could argue were against better opposition? Are we struggling with impact off the bench???

Both games we have gone in at HT with slender leads only to struggle through the second 40 mins, IMO as soon as England or Big Dave get changed we don’t look as organized or compact. It starts to get a little ragged, big Dave was a blow to loose. England did 33 mins which again big minutes, PP came on big hit on him from BMM and then went into hiding. Do we need to mix it up? James Batch was great last season Arundel? I’m not knocking anyone, I just feel the spark has disappeared from second half performances over last 2 games.

Very entertaining game with good contributions from both sides and some good tries scored. The best Warrington performance this season by a country mile and shows Wakey a lot of respect that we were apprehensive until pretty much the end with the pace in your side and your start to the season.

Wakey have a good side and I hope you do well for the rest of the season. Hope Bish is ok, it looked like one of those innocuous things that can sometimes be problematic