At the end of the day this alll stinks of Bull

, I'm waiting for the next club to go bust, and they better get the help the Bulls are getting... RFL/SL are fools for taking this root, it will open a can of worms in the future for sure..

Laughable? You weren't a big club in the 60s,70s,80 and aren't a big club now. You had a few good successful Bullmania years when Caisley thought he owned the league and your away support was good, you had the best team in the league so your support should have been good as would anyother team with that success. You started thinking you were bigger than you are offering big contracts buying ru clubs and in the end couldn't sustain it and you are where you are now, a mess. I've no bad feeling towards Bradford it just winds me up all this "sl can't lose Bradford" nonsence. If Bradford went down how would it effect Wakefield? if replaced by Halifax or Fev it wouldn't effect our attendance,fev would attract a bigger crowd to be honest.

And it'll keep getting done if you insist in coming on here bleating!

One of the major conditions of bids was that no players were sold? Thought the bids had to be unconditional?

Yes I can read, can you not comprehend?

Basically, bulls may get into playoffs with a team they can't afford. It's been going on for far too long now, it's starting to go a bit stale. (a bit like the 'iconic' odsal pitch at the corners lol)

Now this brings a whole new view on things!! Did Bradford purposely go into the season with the knowledge that they would go bust (They did budget to lose 100k a month) and that this would pull on the RFL to assist them? Rather that than do it in the close season and have to sell some of the playing staff?

Any team over spending by £1.2M should have a squad capable of winning the grand final

I'm fairly ambivalent about the Bull situation because:
1. If the Bulls hadn't gone into admin, we would be out of the play-off race, as they would have secured their play-offs and be in 6th.
2. If the RFL had helped out Ted & Co like they have Bradford, we wouldn't have got a franchise and would be in the Championship. It is entirely because of the lack of support from the RFL, in that we had a request for a loan from the RFL turned down, that we ended up with AG, and it was the plans, promises and enthusiasm of AG that got us a franchise.

I just kinda think that it all works out in the end. We now have reassurances about staying at 14 teams, which was probably the sweetener to get us, Cas and Salford on board, and so maybe there is something in it for us after all. And Cas and Salford, etc.

What's in it for champ clubs though?

Same as there always was, I suppose. Are any of them ready? All that's happened is that we are "as we were". Arguably, competing for a franchise place against a couple of weak SL clubs rather than seeing the weak being weeded out by a reduction in number is a bonus.

Although I feel it is all a bit unfair, I have to agree with you. I'm happy how it turned out for us and we'll probably have a bargaining chip now so let them do what they have to do.

While I've no problem with the RFL helping the Bulls or the Bulls staying in Super League, what really gets me is the fact that they've kept all of their players, especially as we had to sell a lot of our playing staff in the same situation. Furthermore will the sky pundits now raise questions over Bradford's ability to get a license as they did ours? I'm fed up of the constant comments about us only getting a license because of the Crusaders going bust, the fact is ours was not the worst bid! But now surely similar media pressure should come onto Bradford. Don't think it will though.

Well if it makes you feel any better we're probably screwed in terms of recruitment for next year if we're in SL. All the players worth signing will already have deals in place, including the better of our many ooc players.

It's the local lads like Bateman, Koppy, Whitehead and Donaldson that we need to stick around to build a club around though.

Welcome to our world.

This can't be allowed!!!!! No bad-wishing towards Bradford but they still have no clear owner yet and this saga has been dragging on for far too long. Bradford are now to our sport what Portsmouth are to football, nobody knows what the hell is going on!!!!

Wont be any £60 season tickets at the Bulls next year thats for sure.In fact one would think they will sell hell of a lot less with the price they should be. Thats just to keep the wage bill going for the players that will still be at contracted to the club.Then again they only need go crying to the RFL and everything will be ok you never know the RFL might even pay for the binos so fans can see the action at Odsal.
What I want to know is who the hell went through the books at the last round of franchise was it Blind Bob.

At least Bradford have only gone into admin once. The whole Portsmouth thing shows how little football wants to do about a club which on multiple occasions has failed to pay it's bills.

In simple terms the Bulls are the Leeds Utd of super league.
They had people in charge who couldn't see the possibility of the short term success ending. In short they paid for a dream and bought a nightmare.

The reason this situation stinks is because of the actions of the RFL. They bought the ground in an attempt to lighten the club's outgoing expenditure. It didn't work the action was the same as trying to cure a broken leg with a sticky plaster. As for retaining all the players and wages being covered by the advance money, this is the part that stinks the most. If the Bulls administrator had sold 5 or 6 of their top earning players supporters of other clubs would be more sympathetic to the plight of the club. To hide behind the 'administrator is running things differently' excuse is very blinkered. If 5 or 6 of the top earners had been sold on the Bulls would still have been able to fulfil their fixtures and compete for the rest of the season. The expenditure would have been lowered the fixtures fulfilled and everyone would see it as a positive attempt to do the right thing.

In short the idiots running our game have potentially opened the biggest can of worms in the history of sport, or have played an absolute blinder to phase out franchising and bring back promotion and relegation.

What have Warrington got to do with this thread

Should and of the people involved in the franchise selection be accountable for the bulls faliure, either within the RFL, who had knowledge of their financial plight, or within Blake Solly, who carried out the financial checks.
Of course it may be that Blake Solly informed the RFL of the situation and perhaps they are beyond reach but..............

Perhaps at franchise adjudication time Solly was refering to Bradford when he stated that there were 'worse' applications than ours

Kerching!

It just goes to show how subjective the franchise system is. Bradford get a grade "B" license when:-

Strong financial performance: no tick - we now know for sure that they were not financially sound and a loan from the RFL of c. £700k just after franchises are awarded is clear evidence of this. (Although rumours persisted for a couple of years that they were in trouble)

Standard of ground: no tick (from me). I appreciate that Belle Vue is not considered up to standard but show me an RL fan who thinks Odsal is!!! Very exposed, poor viewing position, one main stand with a seating area. Whole place, as has been admitted by prior management is in need of major upkeep and renovation.

Team performance: no tick During the last franchise period the Bulls never made the playoffs (we did

)

Player development: tick is questionable. Continuous discussions on here of various youth players poached from clubs. I accept they have brought through Bateman and Whitehead but is there a long line of player development?

This all shows what a flaming farce the franchise system is. If it is to be impartial there needs be preset, unambigious criteria which no one can question.

How Bradford were awarded a grade B license is beyond me.

Don't be stupid, i've been told many times thats not true, ours was the weakest bid.


Ask anyone from Cas or from the VT, they will put you straight