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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"MC has transformed the club off the field but made two errors on it:
1. Stayed too loyal to Chester for too long
2. Appointed Poching
WP didn’t build the squad but the nature of it meant that it was no job for someone who either hasn’t fancied any head coach job in the past or who no one thought was good enough.
Those two decisions will put us back years just at the point the future was looking brighter'"
Bang on Slugger and i fear it will take longer to rectify those two mistakes than it took to get the ground sorted.
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Couldn't agree more there.
We could argue that our sponsorship money has reduced, but at the end of the day, so has all other clubs. A question to follow this, has the club tried to do any marketing, to try and bring in extra revenue. I think we all know the answer, as it isn't the Carter way. His pig headedness regarding this, amd putting tge onus on fans regarding buying their season tickets is another thing that has annoyed me in the past few years.'"
Actually no - it hasn’t at all other clubs. In a recent fan forum we learnt that our sponsorship at Huddersfield is the highest it’s ever been. Ken Davy realised that trying to grow the fan base to increase revenue was a lost cause so the emphasis was taken away from there. Instead he reduced ticket prices and increased the focus on business sponsorship. The business sponsorship brings in more revenue than money lost to ticket sales.
He didn’t build a financial advice business and sell it for 75 million by not understanding finances!
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| Quote ="jools"Actually no - it hasn’t at all other clubs. In a recent fan forum we learnt that our sponsorship at Huddersfield is the highest it’s ever been. Ken Davy realised that trying to grow the fan base to increase revenue was a lost cause so the emphasis was taken away from there. Instead he reduced ticket prices and increased the focus on business sponsorship. The business sponsorship brings in more revenue than money lost to ticket sales.
He didn’t build a financial advice business and sell it for 75 million by not understanding finances!'"
One subtle difference KD is loaded and makes our lot look like paupers. If we pumped in the money like him we would be OK. Problem is we cant
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"One subtle difference KD is loaded and makes our lot look like paupers. If we pumped in the money like him we would be OK. Problem is we cant'"
The money he “pumps in” as you put it all goes into the stadium- something you keep reminding us you don’t need to do because you own it and earn revenue from it.
And yes he has purchased Laund hill for use as a training facility- and the academy /reserve games but this will also be used by the community.
The running of the first team, academy, reserves and the rest is done from the revenue that comes into the club from sky money, ticket sales, sponsorship, merchandise, lottery etc. just like you.
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| Quote ="jools"Actually no - it hasn’t at all other clubs. In a recent fan forum we learnt that our sponsorship at Huddersfield is the highest it’s ever been. Ken Davy realised that trying to grow the fan base to increase revenue was a lost cause so the emphasis was taken away from there. Instead he reduced ticket prices and increased the focus on business sponsorship. The business sponsorship brings in more revenue than money lost to ticket sales.
[uHe didn’t build a financial advice business and sell it for 75 million by not understanding finances[/u!'"
Well there you go then, perhaps those financial genius's on here what know how to run the club could get in touch with Mr Davey to find out where Mr Carter is going wrong.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"That’s your take on why people have that view, [uit has no bearing whatsoever on why I voice what I know about the situation[/u'"
Is it something you can share with the rest of us, or is it a case of if I tell you, you'll know as much as I do.
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| Quote ="chissitt"
I’ve some respect for you Chissit so please don’t take this wrong
I don’t care whether other posters believe what I post or not, I’m not a liar, I post what I KNOW to be true and I don’t speculate. I very much walk a tightrope over what I ought to and ought not to say on here, more often than not I write a post then delete it without posting so as not to cause aggravation.
I love the club as much as anyone on here and don’t wish to see it harmed or want to be negative about it.
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| Ken Davy is a sugar daddy for Huddersfield giants without him putting his money into you would be in a worse position than what we are jools .
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| Quote ="chissitt"Well there you go then, perhaps those financial genius's on here what know how to run the club could get in touch with Mr Davey to find out where Mr Carter is going wrong.'"
Ah so he is going wrong then at least you have just pointed that out.
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| If we don’t have the money to stay in SL then certainly we will not have enough to get out of the championship. We have had how many seasons to improve our finance stream but for some reason we have not.
I wonder if the controller realisers that with relegation comes the loss of prestige, no longer attending meetings, limited media presence and reduced money.
I cannot believe anyone would think investing in a professional sports club is anything but lost money, it certainly isn’t a way to boost your pension, which is a bit worrying for an Accountant not to realise.
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I don't blame Carter. The reality is that he's operating on pennies.
But, the below article is following Brian Smith's resignation. What since this was published has changed?
The stadium is a big plus although we've gone the very long way about it. Perhaps someone more in the know can educate me but if we go down does it effect the redevelopment? Are costs reliant on Super League survival?
I just feel very sad it's come to this.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.skys ... -wakefield
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I don't blame Carter. The reality is that he's operating on pennies.
But, the below article is following Brian Smith's resignation. What since this was published has changed?
The stadium is a big plus although we've gone the very long way about it. Perhaps someone more in the know can educate me but if we go down does it effect the redevelopment? Are costs reliant on Super League survival?
I just feel very sad it's come to this.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.skys ... -wakefield
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| Quote ="Roverman1"Ken Davy is a sugar daddy for Huddersfield giants without him putting his money into you would be in a worse position than what we are jools .'"
He is incredibly wealthy - it must take an absolute fortune to reanimate oneself on a daily basis.
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Quote ="marc271841"I don't blame Carter. The reality is that he's operating on pennies.
But, the below article is following Brian Smith's resignation. What since this was published has changed?
The stadium is a big plus although we've gone the very long way about it. Perhaps someone more in the know can educate me but if we go down does it effect the redevelopment? Are costs reliant on Super League survival?
I just feel very sad it's come to this.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.skys ... -wakefield'"
Certainly not, the development will be completed fear not.
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Quote ="marc271841"I don't blame Carter. The reality is that he's operating on pennies.
But, the below article is following Brian Smith's resignation. What since this was published has changed?
The stadium is a big plus although we've gone the very long way about it. Perhaps someone more in the know can educate me but if we go down does it effect the redevelopment? Are costs reliant on Super League survival?
I just feel very sad it's come to this.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.skys ... -wakefield'"
Certainly not, the development will be completed fear not.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Certainly not, the development will be completed fear not.'"
Reason to be a little positive #1
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Ah so he is going wrong then at least you have just pointed that out.'"
With regards to the playing side of things, team selection, recruitment, team tactics I leave to the coaching staff, which incidentally would not have been my preferred choice, as would not some of the players, ,but I'm not a coach and I'm loathed to criticise players who do what I'm unable to do, I can understand criticism of the above players and coaching staff by some on here especially those that have played the game but for the life of me fail to understand all this criticism against Carter, he could have people have pointed out got rid of Chester sooner than he did, was there a viable option to Poching?, we're all frustrated and some a bit more bitter than others, I notice your a bit forthright with your criticism towards Carter yourself is that due to your experience in accountancy and business studies based on some of your comments.
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| Quote ="Roverman1"Ken Davy is a sugar daddy for Huddersfield giants without him putting his money into you would be in a worse position than what we are jools .'"
As I’ve already stated the money he puts in goes into the stadium-something he describes as a noose around the neck of the club- not into the day to day running of the Huddersfield giants. He has been very clear about what he funds and what he does not.
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| He's bankrolled Huddersfield giants for years without his money you would not have a club in SL .
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| Pardon my intrusion but, i know it's not good atm,however, you can carry on being despondent, and negative which is understandable to a degree, or you can say we are not down yet, and we will turn up, and show/shout out to the players what your club means to you. Turn up in droves ,and let them know that everyone is in this together to FIGHT to save your club from relegation. DON'T GIVE UP!
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| Quote ="Cokey"Pardon my intrusion but, i know it's not good atm,however, you can carry on being despondent, and negative which is understandable to a degree, or you can say we are not down yet, and we will turn up, and show/shout out to the players what your club means to you. Turn up in droves ,and let them know that everyone is in this together to FIGHT to save your club from relegation. DON'T GIVE UP!
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The thing is most on here are passionate supporters, and hurting that our club is in this relegation mire.
Some of the players are either not as passionate as the supporters, or they are simply not good enough; it's one of the two, and we passionate supporters can do nothing about it, except turn up as we have, and support them on the day.
I have to say I am giving up because I simply cannot see where the next win is coming from.
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| We are basically rubbish on the field, no coaching idea of what to do or get the best out of them and a club that appears to be in denial of what we are facing and by default they cannot imagine the effect it will have on supporter numbers.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"The thing is most on here are passionate supporters, and hurting that our club is in this relegation mire.
Some of the players are either not as passionate as the supporters, or they are simply not good enough; it's one of the two, and we passionate supporters can do nothing about it, except turn up as we have, and support them on the day.
I have to say I am giving up because I simply cannot see where the next win is coming from.'"
I know how you feel, and it's sad but, you just cannot give in now. Imagine 6 or 7k trinity fans turning up to get behind your team until the end of the season. Make yourself loud and proud, you never know, it just might come off. Look what happened to Leigh last year when we were already down, and we all turned up. We actually played you guys and got a good result. Like i've already said.....Don't give up.
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| Quote ="Cokey"I know how you feel, and it's sad but, you just cannot give in now. Imagine 6 or 7k trinity fans turning up to get behind your team until the end of the season. Make yourself loud and proud, you never know, it just might come off. Look what happened to Leigh last year when we were already down, and we all turned up. We actually played you guys and got a good result. Like i've already said.....Don't give up.'"
Problem is we’ve turned up in big numbers for some big games this year but the team still have put in a turgid performance.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Problem is we’ve turned up in big numbers for some big games this year but the team still have put in a turgid performance.'"
Yes I think mostly the fans have turned up especially in the current climate with recent performances.
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| Reading twitter tonight EW had a spat too, it seems with Kirmo.
He shouldn't have said that to Kirmo, but Kirmo was way off the mark there with his comment too. He has threatened to take it further.
This is not good for the club
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"Reading twitter tonight EW had a spat too, it seems with Kirmo.
He shouldn't have said that to Kirmo, but Kirmo was way off the mark there with his comment too. He has threatened to take it further.
This is not good for the club'"
I noticed Kirmo having a dig a EW's usual snidey comments on RWB Facebook but didn't see owt on twitter. EW really is the archetypal disgruntled ex-employee though.
EDIT: My mistake. Just checked and it was twitter. Just call me a doylem or diot
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