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| JD clearly should not have played. He was shattered and missed several tackles why the hell did Kear not take him off? Did he start that fight just to get a rest?
Korki same old same old has not improved or learnt anything since he left.
We were so lazy today Brough put in the best kick of the day and the chase was so bad that a minute or so later Bradford scored to make it 20 - 14.
Why when playing against a big side like Bradford do we have two hookers on the bench? Show some balls Kear and drop one of them.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"He made no effort for his team mates today, he played hide and seek and WON.'"
Agreed, i hate to single out players but he has to do more to warrant his place in the side. As soon as Murphy or George are fit enough he should be dropped.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"Agreed, i hate to single out players but he has to do more to warrant his place in the side. As soon as Murphy or George are fit enough he should be dropped.'"
I'd rather be singing his praises but it's clear he's not really bothered i'm afraid.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Two poor sides today, although Brad were better of the two on show.
JD needs that OP.
Petersen needs to go home.
Scott Grix as taken some stick but today he played very well.
Ollie did all he could.
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First class today.
I won't mention that prat in the middle too much, but he gave us last week and today he took away, not mant complained last week so we can't really complain this week.'" disagree there al he tried but hes not a winger, i feel sorry for him hes all over on defence so is gleeson and all the teams know it
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| we wasn't that far off the mark as far as scoring tries five each, shame the kicking was poor today,
we can go on slating refs all day when we lose, one of my pet hates is fans shouting at every given play for some kind offense to try and get possession back, but today if the ref done his job right it wouldn't of been a bitter pill to swallow.
I have no concerns about our attack, defense is having a bit of a mare of it and needs sort out quick, at times we made bradford look very ordinary and with out menzies they would be further down the table
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| Quote ="J.T"JD clearly should not have played. He was shattered and missed several tackles why the hell did Kear not take him off? Did he start that fight just to get a rest?
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If I was JD the first thing I would have done at the end of the game when the lads where back in the dressing room would be to sit them all down and go round the room looking each of his mates in the eye and ask them:
"Why didn't you help me when I needed you?"
The fact he was on his own, swinging against several Bulls spoke more about the performance and attitude today than anything else in my opinion. The Bulls didn't hold back, they where there for thier mate, our boys left him sandbagged.
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| Quote ="Haywire"If I was JD the first thing I would have done at the end of the game when the lads where back in the dressing room would be to sit them all down and go round the room looking each of his mates in the eye and ask them:
"Why didn't you help me when I needed you?"
The fact he was on his own, swinging against several Bulls spoke more about the performance and attitude today than anything else in my opinion. The Bulls didn't hold back, they where there for thier mate, our boys left him sandbagged.'"
Plenty of players should be asking that of each other. Maybe his team mates should be asking JD why he started such a pointless fight rather than just getting on with the game? Don't get me wrong JD has been great this season and previous seasons but today he should never have been on the field.
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| Quote ="J.T"Plenty of players should be asking that of each other. Maybe his team mates should be asking JD why he started such a pointless fight rather than just getting on with the game? Don't get me wrong JD has been great this season and previous seasons but today he should never have been on the field.'"
I take your point, but you need your mates to back you up in a game like this. I am guessing he is one of the most respected players in the club, and if they won't put them selves on the line for him, what chance do we have?
I don't think starting a scrap was pointless, it could have changed the game and swung it in our direction. Plenty of teams do this sort of thing. Just a shame that none of our lot had the minerals to dish a bit of stick out and get fired up, you don't know how the game would have gone, we sure as hell weren't going to win playing like we had the previous hour.
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| Quote ="Haywire"I take your point, but you need your mates to back you up in a game like this. I am guessing he is one of the most respected players in the club, and if they won't put them selves on the line for him, what chance do we have?
I don't think starting a scrap was pointless, it could have changed the game and swung it in our direction. Plenty of teams do this sort of thing. Just a shame that none of our lot had the minerals to dish a bit of stick out and get fired up, you don't know how the game would have gone, we sure as hell weren't going to win playing like we had the previous hour.'"
They did show a lack of balls but then it was no surprise really.
Just thing JD probably started the fight because he was frustrated at how he and the team were playing. Hopefully he will go in for his op now and come back, back to his best.
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| Didnt enjoy game much today but.....think some of the garbage on here tonight is even more shocking
1 we lost because we had a gaping hole in the defensive line 3 times in the first half in exactly the same place just to the left of centre looking defensively, through this whole bradford scored 3 converted tries, no one missed a tackle cos no one laid a hand on the runner, its not crap tackling its bad defensive pattern. BEANS in you go!!
2. how danny b is getting critisism i dont know, cant play near the line????????? our first three tries were from his cut out passes ffs!
3. think we need to drop this dewey eyed thing about the ones we think are "ours" - Rooney being the prime candidate, his passing today was woeful.
4 korki knocks on once and gets stick on here, bibey flaps around like a duck on vodka and comes away with praise!
5. can we please leave the scott grix is no winger discussion now please, no he isnt but he isnt hiding either, im with many he now deserves a try at stand off.
thats about it for now, thank you for your time.
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| Quote ="chapster"Didnt enjoy game much today but.....think some of the garbage on here tonight is even more shocking
1 we lost because we had a gaping hole in the defensive line 3 times in the first half in exactly the same place just to the left of centre looking defensively, through this whole bradford scored 3 converted tries, no one missed a tackle cos no one laid a hand on the runner, its not crap tackling its bad defensive pattern. BEANS in you go!!
2. how danny b is getting critisism i dont know, cant play near the line????????? our first three tries were from his cut out passes ffs!
3. think we need to drop this dewey eyed thing about the ones we think are "ours" - Rooney being the prime candidate, his passing today was woeful.
4 korki knocks on once and gets stick on here, bibey flaps around like a duck on vodka and comes away with praise!
5. can we please leave the scott grix is no winger discussion now please, no he isnt but he isnt hiding either, im with many he now deserves a try at stand off.
thats about it for now, thank you for your time.'"
Spot on. Not sure about Grix as a Stand Off though but in my opinion he would be no worse than Rooney who I'm afraid has passed his "sell by date" but before I get jumped on, its only my opinion.
We have a lot of players out of contract at the end of this season and we need a good clear out but of course we will be restriced by finance. I suspect we have the smallest wage bill in SL which should leave us in 14th place but we punch above our weight but we cannot do this for 27 Rounds, I'll predict that we will finish no higher than 10th.
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| Quote ="Haywire"If I was JD the first thing I would have done at the end of the game when the lads where back in the dressing room would be to sit them all down and go round the room looking each of his mates in the eye and ask them:
"Why didn't you help me when I needed you?"
The fact he was on his own, swinging against several Bulls spoke more about the performance and attitude today than anything else in my opinion. The Bulls didn't hold back, they where there for thier mate, our boys left him sandbagged.'"
Totally agreed, That was the first thing i noticed, JD and BJ having rough tumble then burgess few others helped his team mates, our players just walking to scene, then realised oh and a few came in, I didnt like that attitude at all.
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| Quote ="chapster"Didnt enjoy game much today but.....think some of the garbage on here tonight is even more shocking
1 we lost because we had a gaping hole in the defensive line 3 times in the first half in exactly the same place just to the left of centre looking defensively, through this whole bradford scored 3 converted tries, no one missed a tackle cos no one laid a hand on the runner, its not crap tackling its bad defensive pattern. BEANS in you go!!
2. how danny b is getting critisism i dont know, cant play near the line????????? our first three tries were from his cut out passes ffs!
3. think we need to drop this dewey eyed thing about the ones we think are "ours" - Rooney being the prime candidate, his passing today was woeful.
4 korki knocks on once and gets stick on here, bibey flaps around like a duck on vodka and comes away with praise!
5. can we please leave the scott grix is no winger discussion now please, no he isnt but he isnt hiding either, im with many he now deserves a try at stand off.
thats about it for now, thank you for your time.'" absolutely spot on that my friend. same players went through the same hole 3 times and you are right, they were not missed tackles, because no one layed a hand on menzies or langley. our defence needs serious attention. back to basics
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| Jd was trying to get the ball off BJ who was messing around then scruton came in throwing his weight around and JD stood is ground and well done i say. sruton was the aggresser who shoved Jd into the ref.
Quote ="mwildcats"Totally agreed, That was the first thing i noticed, JD and BJ having rough tumble then burgess few others helped his team mates, our players just walking to scene, then realised oh poop and a few came in, I didnt like that attitude at all.
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| Quote ="not again"Jd was trying to get the ball off BJ who was messing around then scruton came in throwing his weight around and JD stood is ground and well done i say. sruton was the aggresser who shoved Jd into the ref.'"
Least we won the fight
Always good to see some biff, best one at Brad was when Pratt ran away from Solo
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| Quote ="adam9641"Least we won the fight
Always good to see some biff, best one at Brad was when Pratt ran away from Solo
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Was that the one on a Friday night game on Sky when Ollie kicked somebody and it was like the charge of the light brigade with blokes steaming in from all angles?
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| Quote ="Haywire"Was that the one on a Friday night game on Sky when Ollie kicked somebody and it was like the charge of the light brigade with blokes steaming in from all angles?'"
Sounds like the one. Was quality!! Solo going after Pratt who ran away from him like a big girl
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| Quote ="adam9641"Least we won the fight
Always good to see some biff, best one at Brad was when Pratt ran away from Solo
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Won the fight! Are you joking, there was only JD in it! At least BJs mates backed him up. Quite funny though cos JD and BJ are very good friends.
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Won the fight! Are you joking, there was only JD in it! At least BJs mates backed him up. Quite funny though cos JD and BJ are very good friends.'"
Certianly did, JD got few good shots on that prick. BJ always spitting his dummy out, shame he did not get smacked too.
There was more Wakey players that got involved than what I first thought though.
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| Quote ="adam9641"Certianly did, JD got few good shots on that prick. BJ always spitting his dummy out, shame he did not get smacked too.
There was more Wakey players that got involved than what I first thought though.'"
adam, in the old days a long long long time ago Burgess would have got smacked for just thinking about it, and smacked hard.
Wakey have gone soft.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"adam, in the old days a long long long time ago
Burgess would have got smacked for just thinking about it, and smacked hard.
Wakey have gone soft.'"
Just tried imagining Andy Fisher and Nige Bell standing back and watching. Have to agree, I can't see it.
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| Quote ="bloomers"Just tried imagining Andy Fisher and Nige Bell standing back and watching. Have to agree, I can't see it.'"
Nope it would not have happened and much as i don't like to see it (too often) it does happen and needs dealing with.
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| Quote ="not again"Jd was trying to get the ball off BJ who was messing around then scruton came in throwing his weight around and JD stood is ground and well done i say. sruton was the aggresser who shoved Jd into the ref.'" its about time someone told what realy happened
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| Quote ="super 10"its about time someone told what realy happened'"
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