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| Couldnt get there last night, so feel in no way could i comment on that game, but 6th isnt bad considering the negative start we have had, ok we havnt beaten any team currently in the top 5, but we have lost both starting half backs, a hooker, and two pack members from what would have probably been the first choice 17 at the start of the season, so as others have said we are facing a pre season 2, and thats not the time to come accross warrington in form.
in the current situation cas wil be a tough call, and wigan a bloody miracle, asnd the rest of the season it up for grabs and could revolve around cooke settling and BJ's form on his return.
One thing I do know is that bickering amongst ourselves about something we have little or no influence on wont help.
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| Quote ="vastman"Hold on a second, who's being arrogant here me or you.
No one certainly not me has denied that we were as bad as some posters suggest. What I was pointing out is that perhaps we need to accept all things considered we will have these blips without thinking it's the end of the world.
As for the Cas bit, it's another game. This team beat Leeds, it got slaughtered by Hudds. Cas are neither of these, they would have to improve 1000% in my opinion to do to us what Warrington clearly did. Maybe it's me I just don't get the connection.
Anyway if it suits I will no longer comment on games I didn't attend, or question the opinions of those who are clearly beyond reproach if that's what it takes to keep the peace.'"
Maybe its me who is a bit sensitive but its seems to me that some of your comments seem to be along the lines that you know better than others - maybe you do but maybe you dont.
You can please yourself whether you comment on games you don't attend, thats up to you its a forum after all and I have no problem with you questioning opinions but I just think at times you dont question those opinions in a constructive manner.
I don't want to get int a slanging match with you on here. I don't know you as far as I am aware and I'm sure that if we met we would get on as we have at least one thing in common. I'll have to ask TRB or Prince Buster to intoduce us and we can speak face to face, maybe over a pint.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"I know for a fact that over the past couple of weeks JK has put in enough hours in diplomacy and negotiations to solve the Middle East peace process. Getting Cooke in to the club and sorting out Brough to Huddersfield has been a very difficult process.
I said to a friend of mine that we looked like a team of 17 players put together without a coach. Maybe all the other matters have taken the focus away from the everyday things that need to be done. I am just hoping we can now focus on a better TEAM performace next week and sorting out the obvious weaknesess that many of our players displayed last night.
Last but not least, if you weren't there please try and accept the comments from those at the game. They summed it up spot on in my opinion.'"
Who is this person not accepting the comments on the game. All that's being suggested is that perhaps there has been a slight over reaction to what in my opinion at least was a very likely outcome to that particular game.
Just a thought, have you ever watched a game live on a cold miserable night only to watch it on SKY and see a completely different one. Sometimes being at the match doesn't mean you saw it all and I don't mean that in a patronising way it's just the way it is.
Surely a little perspective helps, even though I'm bl**dy glad I didn't go .
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat" I'll have to ask TRB or Prince Buster to intoduce us and we can speak face to face, maybe over a pint.'"
its very overrated
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Maybe its me who is a bit sensitive but its seems to me that some of your comments seem to be along the lines that you know better than others - maybe you do but maybe you dont.
You can please yourself whether you comment on games you don't attend, thats up to you its a forum after all and I have no problem with you questioning opinions but I just think at times you dont question those opinions in a constructive manner.
I don't want to get int a slanging match with you on here. I don't know you as far as I am aware and I'm sure that if we met we would get on as we have at least one thing in common. I'll have to ask TRB or Prince Buster to intoduce us and we can speak face to face, [umaybe over a pint[/u.'"
Take some brass with you or you'll end up thirsty
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| a new record even for us!
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Maybe its me who is a bit sensitive but its seems to me that some of your comments seem to be along the lines that you know better than others - maybe you do but maybe you dont.
You can please yourself whether you comment on games you don't attend, thats up to you its a forum after all and I have no problem with you questioning opinions but I just think at times you dont question those opinions in a constructive manner.
I don't want to get int a slanging match with you on here. I don't know you as far as I am aware and I'm sure that if we met we would get on as we have at least one thing in common. I'll have to ask TRB or Prince Buster to intoduce us and we can speak face to face, maybe over a pint.'"
I don't know more than others and that's often my point. All I really know is that we shouldn't be where we are year in year out. I think this is a case of expectations higher than we can always manage. Hence we need to be a bit more lenient with the team.
I said on a previous post that I DID think Brough a huge loss and not one we can adjust to overnight. I'm not saying he'd have won it for us last nigh but he would have had an impact. He was a strong minded make it happen player and until others step up we will be a bit rudderless for a while.
Everyone is pleasantly surprised when they meet me, surely nobody talks and acts in real life like they do on these forums
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| Quote ="vastman"I don't know more than others and that's often my point. All I really know is that we shouldn't be where we are year in year out. I think this is a case of expectations higher than we can always manage. Hence we need to be a bit more lenient with the team.
I said on a previous post that I DID think Brough a huge loss and not one we can adjust to overnight. I'm not saying he'd have won it for us last nigh but he would have had an impact. He was a strong minded make it happen player and until others step up we will be a bit rudderless for a while.
[uEveryone is pleasantly surprised when they meet me, surely nobody talks and acts in real life like they do on these forums
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| Quote ="chapster"[/u
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"i hear what you are saying and although me no go on friday i did go the the hudds game and the hunslet pre season and still did not really bat an eyelid, i respect your opinion and the fact that along with a couple of others you dont tend to knee jerk but for gawds sake no brough no bj struggling for experienced props 3 new players to gel in to the team .
My opinion is that i disagree with yours on this occasion be pretty weird if we always agreed about all in fact it would be like that little cult over at Huddersfield. just because i might not of gone doesn't stop me having opinions either
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warrington like huddersfield are a class act this term and we perhaps had to play ugly rugby for damage limitation. im sure against the giners we will do fine'"
Mutts, I don't know how you can disagree with my opinion that we were garbage last night - I hope that does not sound arrogant
We played awful and pretty much everone on here who went has said the same. That does not make us bad fans or defeatist as has been inferred on her. We are commenting on what we witnessed. Warrington were good but there seems to be a common theme here that our sliding defence did not work and that we are weak down the right and all I was expressing is that needs addressing and I'm sure that Kear will address it.
I don't like all the "bickering" - we all are Trinity fans after all and all want the same thing.
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| Quote ="vastman"
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everyone is bedazzled when they meet me with my fine physic stunning goods and the fact that im 5 ft 6 kneeling down ..... im also a compulsive liar
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"everyone is bedazzled when they meet me with my fine physic stunning goods and the fact that im 5 ft 6 kneeling down ..... im [ualso a compulsive liar[/u'"
ah but should we believe that?
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| Quote ="chapster"ah but should we believe that?'"
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Mutts, I don't know how you can disagree with my opinion that we were garbage last night - I hope that does not sound arrogant
We played awful and pretty much everone on here who went has said the same. That does not make us bad fans or defeatist as has been inferred on her. We are commenting on what we witnessed. Warrington were good but there seems to be a common theme here that our sliding defence did not work and that we are weak down the right and all I was expressing is that needs addressing and I'm sure that Kear will address it.
I don't like all the "bickering" - we all are Trinity fans after all and all want the same thing.'"
im sure that you are right when you say on par with this the rest of the season we have underperformed last night , btw my first post was more directed to Mr Grumpy
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"come on phil where in the AUP or Mods charter does it state one must attend to hold an opinion , you know the score i would of gone but was medication day (Nurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrse
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Maybe you are tiered and maybe you have had a bad week but what about the squad and their week and all for what to get boooooed and slated . preseason i had this down as a loss pre friday i had us down for a loss.
did the atkins tries really hurt that much? if so its a shame no body attends the squad builder nights'"
You are quite entitled to an opinion, but - as SC as said - I would ask you to respect the opinion of those who were able to go. It was not the defeat, but the manner of defeat which hurt. This will not change, but maybe the outlook for next week can - if the lessons are learned from yesterday and we play as a team - not 17 individuals.
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| Quote ="TRB"You are quite entitled to an opinion, but - as SC as said - I would ask you to respect the opinion of those who were able to go. It was not the defeat, but the manner of defeat which hurt. This will not change, but maybe the outlook for next week can - if the lessons are learned from yesterday and we play as a team - not 17 individuals.'"
i respect it i just think some went over expecting the Leeds performance .
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| everyone knows that all teams have good days and bad days, but what we do expect is that having watch huddersfield ruthlessly expose our right hand side defence, we should have addressed the problem and should not have to watch other teams run in carbon copy tries . its like groundhog day.
everyone on the terraces could see that clearly we did not number up correctly, so why cant the players.
add this to our pathetic kicking game and lack of attacking options last night and i think "shocking" is about right
playing that sort of rugby will not bring in the fans
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| Quote ="MUTLEY CAT"i respect it i just think some went over expecting the Leeds performance .'"
Nope - just a decent performance - and we didn't get it. You would not have thought much better than us had you seen the game but, like us, your love for the club would not be bowed by it, but it hurt!
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| Quote ="TRB"Nope - just a decent performance - and we didn't get it. You would not have thought much better than us had you seen the game but, like us, your love for the club would not be bowed by it, but it hurt!'"
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| isn't it becoming a little bit tedious that we are weak on the right hand side ? was the same in the first game of the season and hasn't changed.
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| Quote ="crowt123"isn't it becoming a little bit tedious that we are weak on the right hand side ? was the same in the first game of the season and hasn't changed.'"
yes mate, every one on here knows it, and we arnt even coaches studying videos, fact is all SL at present is targetting that side against us, so something needs doing this week, at least to make coaches try to find out where our weakness is!
its like dam management, where the waters flowing through is where you need to put the plug!
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| i didnt go on friday and wasnt supprised by the score line.at first i wasnt too dissappointed more teams will get beat quite easily at warrington,what does concern me is the thoughts of people who went on how poor we where.i for one think we should be bringing in a replacment for brough (as i have said on other topics) as sam is a back up SH at best.not going on fridays performence but in previous games i would deff not play gleesen and if any of the sicknotes (king and george) where fit they would come in for jd, blanch.
on another note i read somwhere that knowbody could understand why davey didnt play well dont know if its the reason but i do know he got sent home from training on monday due to been unwell
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