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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Who say i've not already done that.
Gets me into the meetings does that bit of paper
thats the only reason.
I would like to get some shares for my lads but i can't run to 200 squid and would have prefered 50 each.
I could just chuck 100 in but the lads would have liked to be shareholders (for what its worth)'"
As i said, i wasnt questioning your commitment to the club as I have an idea of what you do.
It was merely a question asking why a piece of paper with no chance of a return and no stake in the club would prompt people too put money in the club.
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| Quote ="adam9641"icon_lol.gif
Yeah it's for the club we love but with credit crunch on we need to be looking after outselfs too.
Hard time for people to come up with money to get shares in club, and may not make any money back.'" How many people buy lottery tickets every week with only a very small chance of winning a tenner, not everything is about making a profit.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"
It was merely a question asking why a piece of paper with no chance of a return and no stake in the club would prompt people too put money in the club.'"
Its called having a love for your club no matter what
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| Quote ="CHESHIRE CAT 57"How many people buy lottery tickets every week with only a very small chance of winning a tenner, not everything is about making a profit.'"
They are £1 and the point is you stand to win a sh[iit[/i load of money! Then you could buy as many shares as you want
£100 is a complete different story.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"As i said, i wasnt questioning your commitment to the club as I have an idea of what you do.
It was merely a question asking why a piece of paper with no chance of a return and no stake in the club would prompt people too put money in the club.'"
Yes mate i understand the question, for me its just down to the shareholders meeting.
Strange breed us Wakey lads
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| Quote ="Gahan"Its called having a love for your club no matter what'"
It is yeah, but don't forget us 2 are only young.
I put a lot of money into the club as it is, maybe one day I will get some but £100 is a lot of the money when you get no return on it.
You get some snobs looking down on you thinking they are better than you as they have shares!
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| Quote ="adam9641"It is yeah and a good one at that. But £100 a pop
May not seem like a lot to some people, but when you don't really get anything back in return it's hard to take it up mainly with the current situation for everyone
I put enough money into club as it is.'"
Yes you do adam, so buy a lottery ticket this week and if you get lucky throw some in the pot
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| Quote ="Gahan"Its called having a love for your club no matter what'"
Yes so why dont people do this anyway, (im not saying they dont) but it seems alot more people are now intrested in doing it, for a piece of paper with a 100 shares written on it.
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| Quote ="adam9641"It is yeah, but don't forget us 2 are only young.
I put a lot of money into the club as it is, maybe one day I will get some but £100 is a lot of the money when you get no return on it.
You get some snobs looking down on you thinking they are better than you as they have shares!'"
adam the shareholders meeting is like clown corner mate, all types of fans are at the meeting, no ones looking down on anyone.
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| Quote ="mwildcats"Yes so why dont people do this anyway, (im not saying they dont) but it seems alot more people are now intrested in doing it, for a piece of paper with a 100 shares written on it.'"
As an outsider, maybe its that little incentive thats required to part with your 100 quid
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Yes mate i understand the question, for me its just down to the shareholders meeting.
Strange breed us Wakey lads
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You'd pay £100 to get into shareholders meeting?
slip us a tenner and im sure i could sneek you in the next one
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| Quote ="Gahan"As an outsider, maybe its that little incentive thats required to part with your 100 quid'"
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| Quote ="adam9641"They are £1 and the point is you stand to win a sh[iit[/i load of money! Then you could buy as many shares as you want
£100 is a complete different story.'" Thats the word stand And how many do so when you do win the big one Adam i'l come and stand by the bottle bar and be your new best mate until then carry on dreaming or invest in the TRIN
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| Quote ="adam9641"It is yeah and a good one at that. But £100 a pop
May not seem like a lot to some people, but when you don't really get anything back in return it's hard to take it up mainly with the current situation for everyone
I put enough money into club as it is.'"
Well done for that.
BUT, the board obviously have a reason for the limit and, if like I, you cant afford it, it's tough.
I'd like a big HD telly but I can't afford one so I don't have one.
It's a vanity thing - to say you own a rugby club, YOUR rugby club, nothing more. This is not the same as a share in Walrus Ltd., if you want to give the club money and get something back, go to the club shop!
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"adam the shareholders meeting is like clown corner mate, all types of fans are at the meeting, no ones looking down on anyone.'"
With comment you get from some people at ground it makes you wonder
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| Quote ="adam9641"With comment you get from some people at ground it makes you wonder
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I take it you mean some old crustys, stuff em adam, you are the future they are the past mate.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y" if you want to give the club money and get something back, go to the club shop!'"
Least I would have something to show for my money
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I take it you mean some old crustys, stuff em adam, you are the future they are the past mate.'"
Yeah. Mind you same with some of wisca lot.
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| I see the points both ways and I actually think it's a good idea to issue shares. It encourages fan involvement and raises funds.
My only bug would be a scenario like this. Say Rugby grew and grew in popularity and started getting large tv coverage and big business/businessmen got involved (like football). The club was sold on to a businessman who wanted to take them further etc and he paid a large premium for the company. As a shareholder who put money in when times were hard would you not expect some of the money coming in that other shareholders were receiving?
At £100 a pop minimum with a target of £100k I would want that to be something that at least held it's value.
Did I hear somewhere that mr kear is now a shareholder when he moved upstairs?
Think it's a great idea to get kids shares. If you can't afford more ask club to transfer ownership from you to them split.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y" go to the club shop!'"
Still putting money into club though.
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| Walrus ltd heh want to invest?
Although you and I love them Wakey are also a company owned by and operated by people making money at every level bar fans and free help.
Help the club however and however much you can.
I will do my bit tomorrow by ordering an extra pint
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| Quote ="mwildcats"All im saying is that why has it needed the return of a piece of paper with 100 shares written on it to make people invest in the club.'"
Why indeed?
Why do people spend money buying squares of turf if a club moves to another ground when they've got a garden full of the stuff anyway? Or other mementos that have neither practical value nor the material value for which they've paid well over the odds?
It's symbolism, nothing more, and nothing less. An important element in life, with little or no material value, but something which serves as a token and reminder of loyalty and commitment.
In purely material terms there's little difference in this particular case between share ownership and donation, as you've stated. But there is a significant difference at other levels.
Vanity? I could think of other ways of making a more lasting impression on people who are swayed by appearance than by waving a piece of paper designating 100 quids' worth of Wakefield Trinity RLFC shares in their faces, though vanity in the other sense of the word may in this case be closer to the mark.
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| Quote ="Walrus"Walrus ltd heh want to invest?
Although you and I love them Wakey are also a company owned by and operated by people making money at every level bar fans and free help.
Help the club however and however much you can.
I will do my bit tomorrow by ordering an extra pint
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We should blooming charge you for the free advertising.
It all helps, 37 pints is around the £100 mark, not suggesting you drink them all at once though
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