If they make a bad call and it costs someone their job, that's unfortunate, but not the end of the world. People make bad calls in other walks of life that cost people their lives, and get away with it, the people in the highest ranked, paid professions, who probably should know better, probably some perspective needed if a ref gets it wrong at a sporting event.

At the end of the day, if Jowitt kicks one of those goals we win, pure and simple. Then whatever had gone on previously becomes irrelevant, whatever Child did or didn't do wouldn't have mattered because we had the opportunity to win, he didn't take that away from us, because that's how the game panned out. If we had won i'm sure many would have still bemoaned his performance, but his refereeing did not cause the game to finish 26-26?

I never shout personal abuse at anyone on the pitch! I generally just mutter FFS and shake my head.
I can't not comment on an individual who has some vendetta against a club I've supported since a child. NO NOT ALL REFEREES.
Next to family Trinity is the next constant to me. Lets see how the future pans out.
Lets publicise the statistics. Maybe we're wrong? I think not.

Kirmudgeonly posted on the other "Child" thread that we have won 3 out of 30+ when he has been the ref...??

Under different coaches as well I imagine.

I remember being stood at Belle Vue, and watching in absolute horror at Robin Whitfield I think it was, point to the spot when awarding a 'try' to Neil Summers for Bradford, when I could see with my own eyes the ball was grounded feet short of the line! Not inches, or millimeteres, no video ref, nothing. It was one of the most blatant wrong decisions I have ever seen. There were pics in all the papers highlighting how bad it was! I honestly can't remember at the time if he was ever asked, questioned or whatever. But the point is, me and everybody else who cared, can't say that he gave it because of his love of Bradford, or dislike of Trinity! Only he knows what was going through his head at that particular time, and even if he is asked to explain, you can only take his answer at face value! It's just pointless hanging them out to dry after the event. Why did Child at Cas award Westermans' try when it was clearly forward????

I remember it well, although I've previously posted (incorrectly) that I thought it was Brian Noble



, but yes it was an absolute howler of a decision. We were attacking down near the North end (no North Stand in those days !!) and Summers (not Noble !!) somehow got the ball and ran about 90 metres but got tackled by our fullback just short of the line but there were no officials anywhere near at the time and IIRC Summers celebrated as though he had scored, so Whitfield awarded the try....absolute travesty !!!

Then we need to be better in those games.
There is no way he is trying to make us lose. We just don't handle his style very well.
Personal abuse is just wrong.
I get a lot of grief from people on here defending their right to free speach but for me, abuse isn't part of that.

No one is abusing Child, more criticising his refereeing style which we always seem to be on the wrong end of, no matter the personnel changes

EDIT - no one is abusing Child ON HERE as far as I can see. Facebook and Twitter is another matter.

Sorry Pop Tart. I think the part *We just don’t handle his style very well” is so wrong. The only style any referee should have is fairness and consistent. I’m sorry to say I have never seen that in any game Mr Child has officiated in a Trinity match.

I understand what you are saying DC, but we are surely allowed to question decisions of a referee. No matter which one.
In my own role I get questioned re some of my decisions, particularly when they're wrong! So I believe you have to accept its part of life in whatever job/role you do.
In life we get analysed for our role, so it should be expected that this is regarded in the same light.
However, I totally 100% agree with you regarding abuse of any individual.
I would not accept it and neither should any one to do with any club - either officials, coaches volunteers etc. or referees.

I reckon you get questioned rather than screamed at, by a crowd of people, aggressively, and then followed up with social media comments accusing you of cheating so that your friends and family can see it.
I don't see why people think they have the right to do that to be honest. There is a process for reviewing referee performance by people far more qualified than we are. Those are the people that question him.

Agree with your post 100%. I would never abuse anybody at a match or on social media but I do have a right to question decisions on a fans forum such as this that can impact on the end result of a game. To shut down discussions on the performance of a match official or a player (both positive and negative) during a match is just plain wrong, this should not be seen as abuse.

I was talking about being questioned in my role and yes I can assure you I have also been screamed at.
So, in essence it is the same.
Agree re the cheating/abuse side of things.
As for a ref being screamed at, I'm pretty sure that is not exclusive to Wakefield fans.

Screamed at, I’ve been threatened to be knocked out during my mining career, they are still looking for them by the way

I suspect they don't mind the stuff from the terraces, on the assumption that it is pantomime-stuff that ends at full time. What goes on the pitch stays on the pitch and all that. Social media is the problem as we all treat it like we are just sounding off between friends, like blokes in a pub, but no one would like our pub rants broadcast to the world, and to the earshot of those who are being ranted about.

Sums it up for me Slugger, I don’t do that social media crap, before you say it BarnsleyGull, yes, I haven’t got a clue about it

Abuse ??? ….Abuse ???......I'll give you some abuse, pal....Call yourself a blinking moderator...you are an absolute joke pal....You come on here pontificating to the rest of us like you know everything and then go and commit the cardinal sin yourself....WTF ???













Oh yeah..... you spelt "speech" incorrectly !!!!!

I'll get my coat.....

I think I agree with your post up to a point DC. Obviously the "vitriolic and poisonous" comments should be a no go, but as a part of the Rugby League establishment I suppose your ""must be respected" element is what you would be expected to say. You say referees deserve respect. Well I was brought up to believe that respect should be earned, and there is no way that after the way that Child refereed Friday's match and many others previously, you could say that respect was earned. In my 64 years watching Trinity referees have always been subject to criticism and probably always will be. Your suggestion to close down the discussion on criticising referees is tantamount to censorship. In your position I suppose to criticise referees is taboo; to us, the spectator I'm afraid it isn't taboo.

And you’re happy that ‘criticising’ the referee (and we all know it’s more then that, it’s downright personal abuse) leads to a wife posting a public message about the effect his night’s ‘work’ has on her, his kids, his home life, and, god knows, their mental health. Well I’m sorry, but I draw the line at that. And, as I said in my earlier post, it’s not just referee’s. People working their socks off, for the good of this Club get some shameful abuse. If you are happy to condone that fine. But I see some of the complete guff that gets said. It rips my heart out, and I consider myself mentally strong. I’ve had people in tears in my office after reading personal abuse directed at them on social media. Don’t tell me it goes with the territory. That’s the excuse of the abusers. We need to remember that we are all human beings, and return to compassion and understanding, rather then always looking for someone to blame!

How come it's ALWAYS the officials fault whenever Wakey get beat? Ever thought it maybe down to you having a pretty average side?

Jonno over on VT is spot-on about you blaming the ref for any defeat and moaning like this you continue to prove him right.

Oh great another troll account. Jonno has as many brain cells as we have League points.