Agree but I think the idea going in this year, is with Finny playing hooker a fair amount and not on the field as much. Let Williams have the chance to get better and better with the conversions as he went on. Otherwise it would be Williams kicking some and then when Finn comes on he takes over, which before the season started isn't the best for either imo. Saying that it's obvious atm Finny is the better kicker and if they're both in the halves he shoud be the man to take them.

Anyway great win for the lads on what could have been a potential banan skin but we did most things right. Got off to a decent start, defended really well and played some attractive footbal at timesl. A few silly penalties and we could maybe of been a bit more clinical if I'm looking forward to the games ahead. Hadley was excellent and Fifita did a monster first stint and came back on in the 2nd half and created a try almost straighht away. Tom was good as usual, as was Grix & Huby, infact everyone did their job tonight.

Really enjoyed that one - we were never under any serious pressure at any point and handled what Widnes threw at us pretty comfortably I thought.

Could have been more but I think we went a bit too gung ho - If we'd have taken all the kicks from pens and kicked the easy one that Williams missed, we'd have got 40+ points easy.

I'd be worried as a Widnes fan though, didn't manage to get much going at all the whole game, clueless in attack and poor discipline, bleater Betts has a lot of work to do.

The reason why is simple. If you're a genius like me and have always believed Finn to be one of the best playmakers in SL then he would be the goal kicker end of. However to many people were obsessed about the Williams/Miller superstar partnership so the great man was relegated to the bench. This meant he simply couldn't be the kicker. Now common sence has been restored and because he's now on all game he can carry on as the human metronome he is.

I like Williams however this proves all that is Aussie is not gold. Good though our two Aussies are they are not as good as our dumpy pensioner from Halifax - long live king Finn.

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Not so sure about you being a genius Vasty

, but I have to agree with most of that....Williams has had plenty of time to settle in now, but for me, he is still not giving us much to cheer about. Yes, his tactical kicking is pretty good, but for me that is about it. Has he made a line-break yet ??
As you say, Finn is Mr Consistant when it comes to goal-kicking, so he has to be our no. 1 goal-kicker.
Take the goal-kicking duties away from Williams and let him concentrate on his own game.


Rant over

I think that's a bit Harsh on Williams, he's been the one guiding us around the park and directing traffic for large parts of the games tbh. He's not really a "take the line on" kind of guy but I'm happy enough with his passing and in field kicking.

Agree that Finn is a great option and does well covering 9 and 6 too, think all our pivots give us a nice blend of different options in terms of kicking, running, passing etc.

Just about sums it up for me, after the missed kicks I said I hope it doesn't come down to a 2 point game, I didn't and the rest of his game was good for me. I see where Snowie's topic comes from now

Its difficult to complain about anything really when the wins keep rolling in..



Goal kicking is a problem if we aren't going to play Finn for the full 80, whether that's because Finn ain't no spring chicken or for tactical reasons, injury or whatever.
I suppose we need to get at least somebody up to kicking speed for the times Finn isn't available, but that's gonna need them to get used to kicking when the heat is on in game time, its not as easy to get your eye in when you're filling in one week and not the next.

Anyone else just think it's great we have competition for places especially in the halves, each player offers something and they are all chomping at the bit to play. I would have Liam kicking every goal if he is on the pitch though!

The competition thing is great.
Nobody can be complacent about their spot in the team, which keeps them "honest".
If you look how MCB and the Arundell have dropped straight in (and both performed really well), it give's Chester some real headaches for selection.
I still feel a bit sorry for Max Jowitt, who was superb last season but, Grix is playing out of his skin.
He is unbelievable, compared to how I remember him from his previous stint here.
Defensively excellent (the trysaver on the line in the first half was quality), looks solid under the high ball and his work coming into the line has been superbb.
Add to that his organisation of the defence and he is our best and most consistent player of the season so far.

Jowitt will get a game soon I reckon as we've got a busy few weeks coming a up, and then it's his job to try and keep Grix out of the starting 17

Indeed, pressure on all positions and Chester to make the right team selections.

As a Trinity fan, its always dangerous when you start looking up the league table and I'm having to try and stop myself.

Well I'm still thinking were half way or just under to achieving a likely top 8 points total and ultimately missing out of the bottom four. Anything after that is a bonus.

Agree it is harsh. Like you say his game isn't really about taking on the line and making breaks, like Miller does for example,who surprisingly has made 22 tackle Busts this season so far, which is 2nd only to Fifita. It's more about doing the basics well, with his accurate passing/kicking and generally guiding the team around the pitch well. Saying that I still think there's a bit more to come from him and he hasn't hit his absolute best form for us yet.

Anyone got a crowd figure for the game? can't seem to find one anywhere online, cheers.

Think it was just over 4,200

It was announced as 4,214

I have no issue with Williams. It's purely my opinion that Finn can run a game better than either Miller or Williams or at least that's the case at present. That said I think Finn runs a game better than most in SL.

Williams only problem is that when he tries stuff he's just not getting the bounce and I think that's knocked his confidence a bit. Also he was perhaps like Miller a little over hyped by us all to start with. However I do see Williams as a good long term prospect if he stays another season.

I think you're being a bit harsh on Williams, did he not win us the games against Saints and Salford with touchline conversions?! I'm sure we either scored the same amount of tries or less against those two. Yes he's dipped with the boot, but I doubt Finn will be on the field for 80 minutes in every game from now on in, so if Williams doesn't kick you are only really left with Arundel who's guaranteed to play the full 80.

I have been a critic of Bil tupou's performances in the past, but i thought he had probably his best game yesterday. Took his try well ran hard and put Johnstone away nicely a few times too. Also thought Arundel in the other centre went well.

The way you have been playing ,that figure is shamefull.
Your playing well and deserve better than that.
The ground excuse cannot be an argument when your putting the performance in.
So what is it?

If we knew why I am sure we'd of tried to resolve. Hopefully we keep the consistent performances up and with the weather picking up new fans and old returning ones come down and watch us.
Widnes didn't bring many either but completely understandable being a Friday night game especially with the problems with the motorways that day.

They looked more than was announced Widnes brought a couple of hundred if that but that's no excuse I was hoping for over 5k last night but there was only just over 3k for our match against Widnes last season so we've put a thou on. The stadium saga has had a massive negative effect on a lot of fans but keep on performing and get some decent stadium news and the crowds will look after themselves. Noticed a lot more of a buzz about the club around the city the last few weeks things are looking a lot better. In RL there's only Wigan Leeds and Hull FC that pull decent crowds anyway. Our average attendances will be higher this season than last.
Up the Trin

Thought crowd figure was about right.

It will take more than a flash in the pan to meaningfully increase our crowds.