Tim Smith Bailed to appear at East Yorkshire Magistrates Court Weds 30 September, that will be a great build up to the million pound game

Or it may be - if the consequences affect their ability to do their job, have an impact on their relationships with colleagues, customers or suppliers, or brings the business into disrepute; I'd suggest that the latter would apply in the case of a professional RL player found guilty of drink-driving and would constitute 'some other substantial reason.' Safe dismissal - if you wanted to go down that route.

By gum,tha knows sum stuff

Not sure what action Warrington took when Morley smashed his car up in Ponte park and failed a breath test. Tim Smith has had his head in the clouds most of the season and with a court case hanging over him his focus isn't going to be on the Trins survival. Therefore we need to look at Wakefield's best interest and f that means shuffling things around then move him on.

The one word that comes to mind IDIOT I hate to think where Tim Smiths mind will be now when we are at a point in time when every player should be focused and clear on what is needed to do.

Any truth that Tim Smith, Kevin Locke, Reece Lynne and Scott Anderson have all been sacked? Seemed an odd conversation to be having with someone in Manchester last night. I suppose the 19 man squad should give some indication whether its true, partly true or complete b*llocks.

I've heard all of the above have been suspended. Turning up to training ed up from the night before..... Naughty boys.

Shows what a garbage captain Kirmond is. B Smith barely knows the group whereas captain fantasic has had his position with the club for some time. If you had the right captain in place then maybe a proper culture would have been developed. I would put diamonds on it that B Smith had no idea these pathetic individuals were going on the lash a day after they disgraced the club with one of the most spineless displays from any group of "professional....(what a joke) athletes" I have ever seen. I would also wager that Kirmond would have know what his team mates were doing and because of his own garbage attitude and behaviour in the past felt compromised in trying to do anything about it. To be honest I don't even know if Kirmond is still captain of the team! Good player but absolute disaster of a captain....he just hasn't got the proper character to do the job especially as we obviously have within the squad several immature idiots.

Have we a drinking ban at the club at the moment? If so then suspension could be appropriate, if not, apart from the fact they were dire on Saturday, why shouldn't they have one blow out in a week?

He's not... Scruton is.

And he imposed a drinking ban on the whole team until the end of the season, what's he supposed to do follow them around 24/7 babysitting them?

I'm sorry but there is no one else that can be held responsible apart from the individuals themselves.

Have to say it's all a mess isn't it?

On and OFF the field it seems.

Getting sick of it all to be honest, god knows what next season will be like, where we are league wise and ground, nothing positive to encourage us to keep turning up

I totally agree. Very hard to to feel positive at the moment!

Other than that he's alright

Wow!

It just gets worse and worse doesn't it? Who the frigg is going to play against Halifax now? First of all most of the team don't turn up to perform in the most important game of the year then get really stupid in the days after. I just can't believe this seasons squad, I really can't and its us the fans who suffer as usual...

I don't think you can blame 'most of the team' for the after game stuff. 2 people named that's all.

It gets better from top to bottom the club is a shambles I saw a tweet from Fozzard the other day and it says it all

There is more than 2 players who won't be playing this weekend...

5?

The 5 concerned if true should be heavily fined for breach of club discipline and quite rightly suspended.

Bring in fresh legs and those that have pride in wearing the Trinity shirt such as Crowther, Johnstone and Max Jowitt.

Anthony Walker and Andy Yates should also get games they can do no worse than the others in the pack that according to B.Smith had 'no bang'..

We are not in a position to take a moral stance at the time. We must win the next two games and win them well because defeat will mean the end of WT quicker than the slow death we are going through.
I must admit that the club statements are getting better but I think we have had more this season than the rest put together.

Why does this show why Kirmond is "a gabage captain" what has it got to do with him if he was'nt there.And you must only be presuming he knew what his team mates were up to,Do you have the facts to back up your assumption

and how can you say he has a "garbage attitude and behaviour" this again is your own opinion you can't babysit team players 24/7
This was a totally unprofessional behaviour by the 2 players concerned and only they should be held responsible and should have acted in a more professional manner,but these things happen in all walks of professional sports and always will,but i can,t understand why bring DK into it.

So no real facts about who has done what
No real evidence of how much pride the players not playing have
No evidence of what Kirmond knew or what his responsibility even is

But..... well, who cares about that eh.

So, is it accepted that these were the four in the car? Anyone know different? And as T Smith is the one charged with failing to be breathalysed, the police must believe he was driving.

There doesn't seem to be any grounds for sacking for the other 3, but suspended pending a club inquiry is a possibility I would think?

Whatever has happened, this doesn't bode well and everything is starting to point towards the worst possible outcome for the end of the season.

Do the club give those involved a slap on the wrist and sweep it under the carpet, to give us a better hope of survival? Or make an example of them and make a dent in the squad? I guess it depends on what's actually happened.