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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"Regarding supporting the Plot 8 Application, Deja vous springs into my mind!'"
Nothing is certain in this world but.
A better council with a better leader though that wouldn’t be difficult so all things are relative.
A club once bitten twice shy.
There are far more safeguards in place than last time. I wish that meant I could say it was a definite but from the little I know I can’t. All I can say is the sums involved are smaller relative to the gain so in this case it looks like it might be easier for the developer to play it straight.
Fingers crossed.
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| Quote ="vastman"Nothing is certain in this world but.
A better council with a better leader though that wouldn’t be difficult so all things are relative.
A club once bitten twice shy.
There are far more safeguards in place than last time. I wish that meant I could say it was a definite but from the little I know I can’t. All I can say is the sums involved are smaller relative to the gain so in this case it looks like it might be easier for the developer to play it straight.
Fingers crossed.'"
I have to be careful however, I have little trust in the Mackie's. Hopefully if Boot's are involved in the development, then I have a little more faith in the proceedings.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"I have to be careful however, I have little trust in the Mackie's. Hopefully if Boot's are involved in the development, then I have a little more faith in the proceedings.'"
On this occasion, it's not down to YC as I understand it. It's down to WMDC's willingness to enforce. If you need to trust anyone it's the council, sadly I expect that's not made you feel any safer
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Love that photo, BV almost looks good.
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| Jeez does MC know they've been switched on when there is no match on....he'll have a fit !!
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| Quote ="vastman"Love that photo, BV almost looks good.'"
Photo taken by someone with a camera on a very long pole.
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| Quote ="vastman"Nothing is certain in this world but.
A better council with a better leader though that wouldn’t be difficult so all things are relative.
A club once bitten twice shy.
There are far more safeguards in place than last time. I wish that meant I could say it was a definite but from the little I know I can’t. All I can say is the sums involved are smaller relative to the gain so in this case it looks like it might be easier for the developer to play it straight.
Fingers crossed.'"
This what I don't get a simple provide what was agreed or just move on and bring in another developer for the city, its the council that was the failure to enforce it and just allowed to continue
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| Quote ="snowie"This what I don't get a simple provide what was agreed or just move on and bring in another developer for the city, its the council that was the failure to enforce it and just allowed to continue'"
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I never understood Box motives as NM could have been up and running years ago. People go on about back handers but I see no evidence. Ditto political motive. Truth is I think Box in particular didn’t push it because he simply wasn’t interested and because he had a huge ego he did it to prove he could do as he wanted, total p*llock imho.
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| Nm could have been a bloody cracker
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| Newmarket behind Thorne Park and Durcar.
Anyway still behind the black ball, after how many years.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Photo taken by someone with a camera on a very long pole.'"
Get down with the kids mate, it’s called a selfie stick.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Newmarket behind Thorne Park and Durcar.
Anyway still behind the black ball, after how many years.'"
How are we still behind the black ball, when this is the closest we’ve ever been to at least getting somewhere.
I accept realism but does everyone have to be quite so negative. There are a lot of people working tirelessly behind the scenes, it might be nice just occasionally to show a little support and encouragement.
It’s probably not how you meant it to sound but in the only request I’ve ever received from MC it was that we the fans talk the club up in a positive manner. Let’s try or at least let’s not get upset until bad things actually happen.
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| Maybe behind the blackball, but still in the game. For a while it looked like we were completely of it. There has been a lot of hard work to get us to this point, hopefully it comes off.
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| Quote ="vastman"How are we still behind the black ball, when this is the closest we’ve ever been to at least getting somewhere.
I accept realism but does everyone have to be quite so negative. There are a lot of people working tirelessly behind the scenes, it might be nice just occasionally to show a little support and encouragement.
It’s probably not how you meant it to sound but in the only request I’ve ever received from MC it was that we the fans talk the club up in a positive manner. Let’s try or at least let’s not get upset until bad things actually happen.
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from that photo it looks almost acceptable until you get up close in the light and walk around, the work done on the floodlights is brilliant and will feel the improvement in the finances over time
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| Quote ="snowie"from that photo it looks almost acceptable until you get up close in the light and walk around, the work done on the floodlights is brilliant and will feel the improvement in the finances over time'"
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| Quote ="vastman"Cats bar looks smarter as well, small steps I know but they all count.'" at the time of stadium improvements CB showed interest in putting doors on front and building steps to it to open access to the cats bar but would of been a big expense and in need of a safety cert in which I couldn't supply but I thought it would of been a good idea
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| BG....Perhaps you should...enlighten me !!!
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| Another new document added today to the plot 8 Application.
TRANS PENNINE TRAIL
This one’s only 3 pages long, but what a load of waffle. TPT (trans pennine trail) have concerns regarding number of cycle parking spaces, not enough being provided.
Inclusion of cycle parking is noted but the provision has been reduced. See 2.5 below. Cycle parking should also be secure
Unit 1 - Cycle parking provision reduced from 73 to 43.
Unit 2 – Cycle parking provision raised from 29 to 41. This shows an overall reduction in cycle parking of 18 spaces across Unit 1 & 2. The developers are asked to retain the original level of cycle parking and ensure cycle parking is safe.
Also concerns about a new footbridge, being accessible to all, I think they may have a point on this.
Is the footbridge accessible or stepped access only? Stepped only provision would not be compliant under the Equalities Act.
Footpaths, another concern.
Notes footway on northern section of Newmarket Lane carriageway – this is used by walkers, cyclists and horse riders – not just walkers
Notes a 3m footway / cycleway along the new Industrial Estate Access Road -
This new route should be signed to / from the Trans Pennine Trail / NCN?
Please note Route 67 is also part of the Trans Pennine Trail network and should be represented as such throughout the application documentation
States 2m footways on the Industrial Estate Access Road. This contravenes the stated 3m footway / cycleway in item 2.4. Or is this footway separate to the 3m noted n 2.4
As above. The footway / cycleway should be 3m not 2m. Government guidance LTN1/20 provides details.
The connection route from the TPT to the Industrial Estate Access Road should be a minimum of 3m (this is not stated) and cater for walkers and cyclists and designed to LTN1/2- standards. Equestrian access has been refused by the developer (email 23/03/2021).
The above is just an example of this document, given me an headache just reading 3 pages. Lets hope the council planning committee see some sense and pass both the stadium and Plot 8 together.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Another new document added today to the plot 8 Application.
TRANS PENNINE TRAIL
This one’s only 3 pages long, but what a load of waffle. TPT (trans pennine trail) have concerns regarding number of cycle parking spaces, not enough being provided.
Inclusion of cycle parking is noted but the provision has been reduced. See 2.5 below. Cycle parking should also be secure
Unit 1 - Cycle parking provision reduced from 73 to 43.
Unit 2 – Cycle parking provision raised from 29 to 41. This shows an overall reduction in cycle parking of 18 spaces across Unit 1 & 2. The developers are asked to retain the original level of cycle parking and ensure cycle parking is safe.
Also concerns about a new footbridge, being accessible to all, I think they may have a point on this.
Is the footbridge accessible or stepped access only? Stepped only provision would not be compliant under the Equalities Act.
Footpaths, another concern.
Notes footway on northern section of Newmarket Lane carriageway – this is used by walkers, cyclists and horse riders – not just walkers
Notes a 3m footway / cycleway along the new Industrial Estate Access Road -
This new route should be signed to / from the Trans Pennine Trail / NCN?
Please note Route 67 is also part of the Trans Pennine Trail network and should be represented as such throughout the application documentation
States 2m footways on the Industrial Estate Access Road. This contravenes the stated 3m footway / cycleway in item 2.4. Or is this footway separate to the 3m noted n 2.4
As above. The footway / cycleway should be 3m not 2m. Government guidance LTN1/20 provides details.
The connection route from the TPT to the Industrial Estate Access Road should be a minimum of 3m (this is not stated) and cater for walkers and cyclists and designed to LTN1/2- standards. Equestrian access has been refused by the developer (email 23/03/2021).
The above is just an example of this document, given me an headache just reading 3 pages. Lets hope the council planning committee see some sense and pass both the stadium and Plot 8 together.'"
What will you do with your time when this is over
Seriously though, it is very useful stuff and keeps us all informed
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| Quote ="vastman"What will you do with your time when this is over
Seriously though, it is very useful stuff and keeps us all informed
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Well it’s not over yet, another new document today, 7 pages long.
Consultee Comment. LAND QUALITY WAKEFIELD COUNCIL
This covers amongst other matters, possibly of unrecorded mine works, risk to human health from contamination/pollutants, management plan for removal of the invasive non-native species, Himalayan Balsam.
Application Summary
Application Number: 20/02249/FUL
Address: Plot 8 Land South Of Newmarket Lane Stanley Wakefield WF3 4BU
Proposal: Full planning application for the development of two storage and distribution warehouses (19,105 sq. m and 18,260 sq m.) (Use Class Bicon_cool.gif together with ancillary offices, lorry and car parking, hard-standing, yard, drainage, landscaping and associated infrastructure and engineering works and a new pedestrian and cycle route from the B6135 to the Trans Pennine Trail.
Case Officer: Michael Eaglestone
Comments
LAND QUALITY COMMENTS
I have NO OBJECTION to this proposal but would like to make the following comments and recommendations. These are updated comments and should be read in conjunction with our previous consultation response (15th January 2021).
I suppose the above comment could be important.
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