He literally doesn't even know!

As I recall most of Ted’s tenure was in the lower division… certainly when I first met him… and he was palpably culpable in poor due diligence when handing the reins over to Pearman…

I agree with your thanks to MC and JM.
I appreciate we're relegated, but we go down with finances in a stable position and a ground that is far superior to what it was albeit, work still to be done.
Mick Carter has had some stick on here and some criticism was justifiable, regarding his recruitment of players, but I for one haven't forgotten that he saved our club from extinction. I will be forever grateful for that.
JM came on board later but has got the best deal he can from that shambles before, of Yorkcourt etc etc - and he HAS produced a lot of what we wanted from seemingly getting nothing.
So, to all those making harsh, hurtful comments about these two guys, let them bow out with dignity and their heads held high, because they deserve to.
Or, you could always look at yourselves, which is often a good yardstick, and ask yourselves if you could have done any better. Probably not eh?

Spot on 1315

Tell you what. Looking at the accounts of Ellis’ company, he has the money to easily make you a top 6 SL team if he wants to spend it. I would say only Leeds, hudds, Warrington, Saints and Wigan have an owner as rich or richer

I would say the the Ellis family fortune is easily comparable with those you mention, did you take a look at the holding company as well?

Agree with all that and more M C and J M have turned a dump of a ground into what looks like been one of the best RUGBY Grounds .As I have said, there as been a vendetta against them but the true Wakefield fan can appreciate the hard work they have put in .Really exited for a brand new start .This takeover could be the difference to getting 3,000 plus fans at games,in and none of it would have happened if M C had not stepped in

Vendetta? Several (yes several, not hundreds) fans continued a vociferous opposition “campaign” (sometimes unfairly) toward MC and JM which included both valid and invalid points of order.

Isn’t a vendetta about avenging death or something like that? Please let’s move on.

I being not a true supporter by some completely insane definition am actually looking forward to how the new owner runs the club both on and off the field compared to the true supporters incumbents.

Based on what?
You know nothing about the new guy.

So why not leave the digs at the people who got us here alone now.

You got your wish. Move on.

I think that maybe all supporters will need to learn a new mindset after 10 seasons under the current owners. I agree they have overseen our relegation, all I am saying is let’s wait and see you never know you might appreciate the changes whatever they turn out to be. I may not know the new owner but he clearly has sufficient finances which any club needs especially when IMG’s rating comes into effect. He had enough to bring in Powell compared with the option taken and continued with by the incumbents.
I am however no less a supporter just because I was fed up with how unprofessionally the incumbents ran the club and that will not change.

Scarlet, while I am no Carter superfan, just bear in mind there probably wouldn't be a club for Ellis to buy without him.

And a club already scoring well on IMG.
No previous owner has ever taken over a club in such a promising state, off the field.

And not having millions of pounds in your back pocket is hardly being unprofessional.

Also, not your fault of course, but actually in the IMG world, you have lost some value as a supporter.
Previously, when you bought a season ticket but couldn't go you still added to the attendance and finances.
You now won't be counted on attendance unless you take your seat.

Yes but we need the additional finances he brings to sort out the less than promising state they left with regards our on field state both with the squad and coach. The one will not guarantee our SL return we need both to be successful. Do you believe the current incumbents have enough business acumen to maximise the off field revenue and produce a squad capable of maximising the points available or even run a full time squad.

Yes I do.
But that doesn't really matter now does it.

And you seem to have skipped past your unprofessional comment.

They probably have enough business acumen, yes , but they probably don't have the money to put in that they acknowledge is required. I think you're disgustingly disrespectful to two men who have done far more for WT than you could ever dream of.
Time to grow up and move on.

Unprofessional having the CEO appoint himself the director of rugby despite no obvious experience in this position. Having no discernible marketing of games. Not having enough staff to fill all the posts with some actually having to cover multiple posts resulting in safety concerns.
Is that how a professional sport club is run.?

It's how a sports club with limited money is run.
I'd be surprised if many of the CEOs in other clubs had any experience of running a sports club before they took over.
Same as Ellis has no experience either.

Would agree with all the points listed by 1315, but I do think that is tenure has been soured a little by his often blatant disrespect for the fans, in the end he only seemed to engage with fans when money would be forthcoming, and gave us three or four seasons of extremely poor rugby league finally culminating in relegation.

Take your point RC - I accept MC would have been better leaving some things, such as recruitment to those better equipped, and also accept his relationship with the fans was tainted with his attitude to some of them in his latter years - BUT taking that into account I'm simply saying MC (and JM) shouldn't be hung drawn and quartered as if they had totally ruined the club -as some on here would have you believe! Just think they deserve some credit for the positive things they have achieved and they be allowed to leave without ongoing bitterness and criticism to them.

I would agree with those sentiments 1315.

You’re only guessing that it’s “unfairly”, you don’t know what some others may know
Maybe their assessment of MC is the more accurate one because they’ve personally experienced the real man behind the facade he shows the public.
In that case it couldn’t be termed a “vendetta” could it!

Take someone as you find and let others do the same and if you think he’s Ok then fine but don’t condemn others who’ve seen a different side to him

I think that 1315 and avenger sum it up . Both statements are correct as there is always two sides . What people don't like is when one of the parties cannot accept this and just condemn one side all the time and take every opportunity to do so.

I may have, in the past, been critical on the outgoing regime, but I never tried to make it personal. I believe, some dont, that there is nothing wrong with constructivr criticism.

Carter, Minards, Glover, Richardson have all, in their time got things both right and wrong.

I think the time is right now, not to keep looking back, but to drsw a line in the sand, and look forward to the next chapter, O am and I think it might be an exciting time.

Just a shame that it has, hopefully only temporariliy cost us our super league place.

Wonder if our first game will be against a newly promoted team.

Up the Trin