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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"I dont really understand your point. Are you saying that because Tim Smith is bi polar he should not have his poor performance addressed ? The point about him showing a complete lack of respect to the coach (Morrisson)who was trying to address him on the field is that a bi polar behaviour ? Are you sure its not just the conduct of an ignorant individual that is not a team player ?
Finaly you claimed that because of his condition during the game he was "not on this planet" - Is that good for the team or indeed himself?'"
You said he had poor mental strength, therefore that was his reason for failure in the NRL...I said you don't need to be Einstein to realise that their poor mental strength underpins bipolar! In case you cant read I will say it again. He shouldn't be wrapped up in cotton wool because he is bipolar, but in my opinion the finger is pointed at him unnecessarily and he is made the scape goat. He isn't playing poorly, he is playing behind a pack and doing the best he can. What will probably be distressing for him is that he is actually trying his best FOR THE TEAM with less than adequate platform. Fans always, always will criticise the HB if points are not being scored, however they need to look at the wider picture.
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| Quote ="kingsway cat"You said he had poor mental strength, therefore that was his reason for failure in the NRL...I said you don't need to be Einstein to realise that their poor mental strength underpins bipolar! In case you cant read I will say it again. He shouldn't be wrapped up in cotton wool because he is bipolar, but in my opinion the finger is pointed at him unnecessarily and he is made the scape goat. He isn't playing poorly, he is playing behind a poop pack and doing the best he can. What will probably be distressing for him is that he is actually trying his best FOR THE TEAM with less than adequate platform. Fans always, always will criticise the HB if points are not being scored, however they need to look at the wider picture.'"
Just for the purpose of clarification. I did not say anything about his failure in the NRL, NOTHING. Furthermore you did not answer my questions NONE of them. Other than that thanks for the great insight you provided me with. Lastly you did call me stupid, I am currently managing to cope with this but if i do go off the rails because of the excessively harsh critiscim I will let you know.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Just for the purpose of clarification. I did not say anything about his failure in the NRL, NOTHING. Furthermore you did not answer my questions NONE of them. Other than that thanks for the great insight you provided me with. Lastly you did call me stupid, I am currently managing to cope with this but if i do go off the rails because of the excessively harsh critiscim I will let you know.'"
From reading your posts on this thread you seem to be a bit of a moron who finds mental health problems a reason for ridicule.
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| Quote ="wildcat13"From reading your posts on this thread you seem to be a bit of a moron who finds mental health problems a reason for ridicule.'"
You are entitled to your opinion but can assure you that I dont find mental health problems a reason for ridicule.
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| I notice you didn't refute the "Moron" label though
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| Quote ="financialtimes"I notice you didn't refute the "Moron" label though
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Its much less offensive to be honest, I can live with that.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Dont agree with all this support the players no matter what tosh. If they cant handle disquiet from supporters then I worry about their mental toughness. By the way I am currently training a pup that at the moment is wazzing all over a variety of carpets in my house. I guess I am supposed to stand back and applaud him warmly before tickling his tummy and giving him a chocolate drop. I was thinking of berrating him in a direct manner and letting him know that he needs to change his behaviour - I assume that this would be cruel and effect him mentaly leading to a terrible life and subsequent suicide.'"
Smith was not on the field when the majority of the points were scored and does not deserve the crap jeering thats my point. I agree though we need to compete in the collision for 80 mins and we're not. Thats the WTW packs responsibility .....
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| Tim Smith is an easy target. I'm not convinced he's the player we need but he's far from the worst import we have ever had. In fact he's far from the worst this season. Smith needs the right team and I don't think we are it, not yet anyway.
I'm yet to be impressed by Southern but for some reason he seems an untouchable. At least Smith is on the park.
And before the Bluey brigade start up, I didn't say he was a bad player.
As for Smith and the bi-polar thing, I can't imagine it helps but we all have our crosses to bare.
I wish him all the best, I wish them all the best - I don't care how it's sorted or who stays or who goes - it's not about personalities or where you come from it just wants sorting.
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| Quote ="trin77"The sooner him Collis and Southern are on their way the better. How can a captain spend an hour on the bench? :2yzsn1ljHendo was twice the player on half the wage.[/
This last sentence is a very interesting one!
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| Certainly was when you consider that the club stated we only spent 70 k more this season. Can't be right!
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| Quote ="Jason"
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Dont agree with all this support the players no matter what tosh. If they cant handle disquiet from supporters then I worry about their mental toughness. By the way I am currently training a pup that at the moment is wazzing all over a variety of carpets in my house. I guess I am supposed to stand back and applaud him warmly before tickling his tummy and giving him a chocolate drop. I was thinking of berrating him in a direct manner and letting him know that he needs to change his behaviour - I assume that this would be cruel and effect him mentaly leading to a terrible life and subsequent suicide.'" mate, there is something not quite right there?
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| Quote ="vastman"Tim Smith is an easy target. I'm not convinced he's the player we need but he's far from the worst import we have ever had. In fact he's far from the worst this season. Smith needs the right team and I don't think we are it, not yet anyway.
I'm yet to be impressed by Southern but for some reason he seems an untouchable. At least Smith is on the park.
And before the Bluey brigade start up, I didn't say he was a bad player.
As for Smith and the bi-polar thing, I can't imagine it helps but we all have our crosses to bare.
I wish him all the best, I wish them all the best - I don't care how it's sorted or who stays or who goes - it's not about personalities or where you come from it just wants sorting.
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i'd agree with yu on all of that. thought smithy did some decent stuff and i'd agree about southern and bluey. definitely underperforming but on the whole , thought the boys went ok for 60 minutes. got a few bad calls and the bounce went against them. if not, who know's
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| Quote ="frogcat"i'd agree with yu on all of that. thought smithy did some decent stuff and i'd agree about southern and bluey. definitely underperforming but on the whole , thought the boys went ok for 60 minutes. got a few bad calls and the bounce went against them. if not, who know's'"
isnt southern "bluey" ?
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| Embarrassed by the clowns booing. Yes, he'd not long put the ball out on the full but 5 mins before that he'd put Frankie through a hole with a peach of a
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First half I thought him and John were both decent. Second half we were struggling to get out of our half and his runners stopped coming?
Just like to point out, defensively I thought Southern was very good and put in some good hits. When him and Aiton went off at the same time second half things started to go downhill. Coincedence?? Just need more minutes from him now, but for a first game back after a fairly lengthy lay off it was definately something to build on.
Who got MOM?
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| There's no if's or but's about it some of our overseas payers are being made into right scapegoats this year, it 's like the League of Gentlemen round here.
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| Quote ="Fritzys Mullet"Embarrassed by the clowns booing. Yes, he'd not long put the ball out on the full but 5 mins before that he'd put Frankie through a hole with a peach of a
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First half I thought him and John were both decent. Second half we were struggling to get out of our half and his runners stopped coming?
Just like to point out, defensively I thought Southern was very good and put in some good hits. When him and Aiton went off at the same time second half things started to go downhill. Coincedence?? Just need more minutes from him now, but for a first game back after a fairly lengthy lay off it was definately something to build on.
Who got MOM?'"
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| Quote ="Fritzys Mullet"Yes, he'd not long put the ball out on the full'"
He got a crap pass first off that he had to catch over his head, then the Wire defence put pressure on him (why don't we do this to other teams half backs?!) he had no chance of getting a decent kick in.
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| Quote ="charlie"He got a crap pass first off that he had to catch over his head, then the Wire defence put pressure on him (why don't we do this to other teams half backs?!) he had no chance of getting a decent kick in.'"
That's how I saw it.
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| I stated earlier - I think it was sarcastic cheering for Wood coming on.
Every week there are shouts for Wood. But, as we know, there has been times when KW gets to come on after 70 minutes.
It goes with the sarcastic shouts of "Two" when we played Salford.
Its aimed at Agar.
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| Quote ="charlie"He got a crap pass first off that he had to catch over his head, then the Wire defence put pressure on him (why don't we do this to other teams half backs?!) he had no chance of getting a decent kick in.'"
Spot on and it was Issac John that passed it iirc.
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| It wasn't long after he'd put a pinpoint kick into the corner that pegged Wire in their own 20.
He's definitely got it in his locker - just needs a bit of room to work in; didn't Sinfield put two out on the full last night?
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| He put one restart out on the full and one restart short of 10m
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| TBH i think we could have one that game (wire at the weekend) if Sam Obst were playing, some direct running and a bit of leadership would have made a huge difference, and as far as i know he isn't in SL or being chased up for a return to it either.
I'm not suggesting we should try and re-sign him, i think!!!
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