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| There is no way we could run a full time team in the Championship, the only teams who can do this are ones who have owners who put their hand in their pocket such as Beamont at Leigh last season. Even Featherstone who's owner puts in a small fortune do not run with a full time squad.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"I wouldn't mind betting some of the 'top clubs' are servicing debts of more than 3 million.
At least ours is a structured loan.'"
Leeds ,Huddersfield, St ,Wigan Think Hull are over 3 million , And Salford are a law on to them selfves .One bad season and there shafted big time
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| Quote ="alegend"Leeds ,Huddersfield, St ,Wigan Think Hull are over 3 million , And Salford are a law on to them selfves .One bad season and there shafted big time'"
And those clubs will be "protected"
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"And those clubs will be "protected"'"
Agree,it is a joke
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| We shouldn’t have and didn’t need to spend £500K on an artificial pitch!
The old playing surface just needed some care and attention to bring it back to its best. The pipe dream that we’ll get significant revenue from renting the hybrid pitch out just doesn’t wash with me. We won’t get enough to justify half a million pounds and what we do get could’ve been handled by the old pitch had it been properly maintained.
Some of that money could have gone on 2 or 3 quality replacements for those who left last season.
Take Atonis wage and top it up sufficiently to get a quality front rower, do the same with with Smith/Torfuas wage and get a quality half back and a hooker. Then offer Batchelor enough to change his decision to leave.
That wouldn’t have used more than £200k/£250k leaving £300k or so still in the coffers.
None of that deflects from the stadium build which is rightly our top priority.
It’s not a black and white either or situation with the clubs finances, why do people talk in such absolutes?
A bit of foresight and some manipulation of what’s available and we could at least have been competitive while still building the new stand and doing other refurbishments
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| Pitch just cost over 100,000 pounds, as said it should have been left for 16 week not 6
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| Quote ="PopTart"Indeed. I'm not sure why Scarlet thinks everyone else is living for free.'"
When we purchased the ground I am pretty sure the rental payments will cease and if I remember correctly the agreement to start the loan repayments was delayed until the work started. This would suggest we were living rent free for quite sometime.
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| agree about money been wasted on players
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| No Rob Butler. What was the point of signing him. Looks like Powell was right to get rid.
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| Quote ="Willzay"No Rob Butler. What was the point of signing him. Looks like Powell was right to get rid.'"
We have more than 17 players. That could apply to anyone not in the starting team.
If he didn't play Eseh you'd complain he didn't give him a chance.
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| Quote ="alegend"Pitch just cost over 100,000 pounds, as said it should have been left for 16 week not 6'"
Is that just for the repairs?
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| Quote ="PopTart"We have more than 17 players. That could apply to anyone not in the starting team.
If he didn't play Eseh you'd complain he didn't give him a chance.'"
I’m flagging it up as another example of wasted money!
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| Quote ="Willzay"I’m flagging it up as another example of wasted money!'"
Will it still be wasted money if a prop gets injured today?
I'd be happy for Butler to play based on his performances so far this season.
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| Quote ="Willzay"No Rob Butler. What was the point of signing him. Looks like Powell was right to get rid.'"
Might be to young for the a Coach Does not seem to like younger players .
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| Quote ="alegend"Might be to young for the a Coach Does not seem to like younger players .'"
Really? I know you've got a downer on everything but of all things that seems a bit of a daft thing to say
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| Quote ="PopTart"Really? I know you've got a downer on everything but of all things that seems a bit of a daft thing to say'"
Just tongue in cheek ,
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| Quote ="alegend"Just tongue in cheek ,'"
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| Quote ="The Avenger"We shouldn’t have and didn’t need to spend £500K on an artificial pitch!
The old playing surface just needed some care and attention to bring it back to its best. The pipe dream that we’ll get significant revenue from renting the hybrid pitch out just doesn’t wash with me. We won’t get enough to justify half a million pounds and what we do get could’ve been handled by the old pitch had it been properly maintained.
Some of that money could have gone on 2 or 3 quality replacements for those who left last season.
Take Atonis wage and top it up sufficiently to get a quality front rower, do the same with with Smith/Torfuas wage and get a quality half back and a hooker. Then offer Batchelor enough to change his decision to leave.
That wouldn’t have used more than £200k/£250k leaving £300k or so still in the coffers.
None of that deflects from the stadium build which is rightly our top priority.
It’s not a black and white either or situation with the clubs finances, why do people talk in such absolutes?
A bit of foresight and some manipulation of what’s available and we could at least have been competitive while still building the new stand and doing other refurbishments'"
Wrong again.
Firstly, its not an artificial pitch.
Secondly, it didn't cost £500k
Thirdly, the "old" pitch was f*cked according to the groundsman.
.....And I'd rather take his word for it than yours.
Cheers
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Wrong again.
Firstly, its not an artificial pitch.
Secondly, it didn't cost £500k
Thirdly, the "old" pitch was f*cked according to the groundsman.
.....And I'd rather take his word for it than yours.
Cheers'"
OK, Hybrid pitch (pedantic)
It was widely quoted as costing £500k
The old pitch was in poor condition due to lack of care over a few years and just needed some investment in it to return it to its best and it wouldn’t have cost anywhere near £500k
That is also from Steve Dutton and I’ll take his unfettered word over the party line you quote him saying
You’re welcome
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| Either way. As I understand it, that £500k was part of the money for the stadium as a whole. It wasn't available to us to fund signings. So its a none argument.
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| The pitch, floodlights & big screen was privately funded and didn't come from the stadium money. Only the floodlights of those was an actual no choice requirement as the old ones no longer met the required spec. The screen was a desirable but not essential. The pitch was our own choice based on a business decision in order to try and raise extra income from it. The old pitch was in poor condition but that was in Carters own words 'on him' as he took the decision to cut all but absolute essential expenditure on it shortly after taking over. Had it been kept up to at its original levels given it was long established, has one of the best drainage systems around and was being cared for by a highly skilled groundsman who treated it like one of the family then it would have likely been able to cope with the extra traffic on it. But the money wasn't there at the time and it was allowed to deterioate to such a degree there wasn't much choice but to replace it if we wanted to use it more. It will bring in extra income but it will take some time to pay for itself and they still have to be looked after and maintained well.
For info the costings were on the planning application. It was based on on the original 4G plan but i believe the prices aren't too dis-similar looking at the pricings on suppliers websites. It will depends on what grade we went for but they are far from cheap. It's worth considering that there will be some remedial costs already as well given the problems we've had with it so far. Anyway from the planning app...
LED Floodlights (installed 2021) £400,000
Display Screen (being installed 2022) £100,000
4G playing surface (to follow other works) [estimate £700,000
Total £1,200,000
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| I guess if we'd spent money doing more than basic maintenance on the pitch we would taken the hit elsewhere? Robbing Peter to Pay Paul may have resulted in us having the best pitch in the Championship already.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I guess if we'd spent money doing more than basic maintenance on the pitch we would taken the hit elsewhere? Robbing Peter to Pay Paul may have resulted in us having the best pitch in the Championship already.'"
Quite possibly so.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Quite possibly so.'"
As ever nothing is ever linear.
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