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| Quote ="Fordy"I can't see any logic in signing Hampshire up at this moment in time. When we're so tight on our budget why would you pay someone to sit in recovery for 4 or 5 months?
Wait until he's recovered and fit to go and then see if it's an option we need at the time.
Yes, you risk that someone else might pick him up in the meantime but I'd rather that than pay him for half a season that he is not available'"
It looks like he is undertaking his recovery at Cas so it may be a case they are looking to play the same game.
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| Quote ="Fordy"I can't see any logic in signing Hampshire up at this moment in time. When we're so tight on our budget why would you pay someone to sit in recovery for 4 or 5 months?
Wait until he's recovered and fit to go and then see if it's an option we need at the time.
Yes, you risk that someone else might pick him up in the meantime but I'd rather that than pay him for half a season that he is not available'"
He probably will miss 2/3 months of the season but that why I put if the deal is right as it could reflect that.
It’s just an option and I was thinking more about the versatility he offers to cover full back and halfback that’s all. Any other player would be welcome of a similar standard offering the same utility value.
I’m getting quite impatient now for some signing news I have to say though I understand the reasons.
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| Wouldn't be surprised to see an announcement tomorrow to complement the shirt launch, then quite possibly another at the fans forum.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Wouldn't be surprised to see an announcement tomorrow to complement the shirt launch, then quite possibly another at the fans forum.'"
Hopefully it’s a double prop signing with both Lebanese props Kalanche and Rahme in the Red.white and blue!
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| Yeah I can see there being some sort of announcement with the shirt launch
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| I’m expecting a couple of announcements too.
Looking forward to seeing who we have brought in.
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| Seen nothing yet from Wakeham to suggest he’s worth signing. Decent kicking game but other than that he’s not sold himself so far.
The PNG player Laybutt??? Looks better to me and he’s no Wally Lewis.
Seen plenty of forwards but nothing much in the creative department. Still the real games are just beginning so we shall see.
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| I know it’s Jamaica the opposition but these Lebanon forwards are very good and have been all tournament.
Rahme number 19- big loose/prop looks good and has no contract for 2023. Big guy too and a fair few offloads.
Their 11/12 look good.
Lawrence he’s solid but hard to judge in games like this.
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| Quote ="vastman"Seen nothing yet from Wakeham to suggest he’s worth signing. Decent kicking game but other than that he’s not sold himself so far.
The PNG player Laybutt??? Looks better to me and he’s no Wally Lewis.
Seen plenty of forwards but nothing much in the creative department. Still the real games are just beginning so we shall see.'"
Laybutt has been quite good I agree. Seems like one of those players who seems to have the ball and has an age to decide what to do with it. As if time slows down. Certainly a controlling half instead of an off the cuff player.
I’m pretty happy with Lino and Smith to be honest. I wouldn’t be against us bringing in a young halfback to cover and develop though. Wonder if Abrahams has any plans to come back. Could get some good game time in reserves and put himself in with a chance of first team rugby.
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| Can't Laybutt play 13 too
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Laybutt has been quite good I agree. Seems like one of those players who seems to have the ball and has an age to decide what to do with it. As if time slows down. Certainly a controlling half instead of an off the cuff player.
I’m pretty happy with Lino and Smith to be honest. I wouldn’t be against us bringing in a young halfback to cover and develop though. Wonder if Abrahams has any plans to come back. Could get some good game time in reserves and put himself in with a chance of first team rugby.'"
I think we need some cover at HB.
Abrahams is fine but he’d have to join the reserves as I don’t think his Aussie shift warrants a contract, unless Mash really rates him.
Laybutt might do the trick but without wanting to upset PT, at 28?? playing relatively high up in the Queensland league he might not be interested in a shortish SL deal for not a huge amount of dosh.
We shall see.
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| Quote ="vastman"I think we need some cover at HB.
Abrahams is fine but he’d have to join the reserves as I don’t think his Aussie shift warrants a contract, unless Mash really rates him.
Laybutt might do the trick but without wanting to upset PT, at 28?? playing relatively high up in the Queensland league he might not be interested in a shortish SL deal for not a huge amount of dosh.
We shall see.'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"What's it got to do with me?'"
Thats a good point PT.
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He looks a little trimmer too, which can't often be said following time off!
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| Quote ="TimmySmith"He looks a little trimmer too, which can't often be said following time off!'"
Yeah he does to be honest.
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| Quote ="vastman"Yeah he does to be honest.'"
Yes had to look twice to make sure it was him. His body looks in better shape but his attitude and work ethic must also improve. Lets wait and see.
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| So as it stands we currently look something like this for 2023:
1. Jowitt
2. Murphy
3. Hall
4. Lyne
5. Kershaw/Taufua
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7. Lino
8.Bowden
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24. Windrow
25. O’donnovan
I think 4/5 more signings are required.
Prop remains number one priority as I’d say we need 2 props.
Loose forward
Fullback (or a good utility back)
Centre (or a good utility back)
If there’s anything left maybe promote a young lad or 2 - don’t we have some good young centres? Carter or Beevers maybe.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Yes had to look twice to make sure it was him. His body looks in better shape but his attitude and work ethic must also improve. Lets wait and see.'"
That's what I meant by a heart to heart. Maybe his new coaches will get a better response. Even if he only becomes a useful in an emergency player, that will be a huge improvement.
In the home win against Warrington, he was very effective, but that was the only game, so like you I'll wait and see.
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Good update and when looking at the present squad my main area of concern is halfback. We do not have a clue how well Smith will manage the step up. We would be very lucky if we can go the whole season without Lino getting injured. You then assume Smith and Gaskill as our halves. That is providing Gaskill is fit because sods law, when you need him he'll probably be injured at the same time.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Trojan,
Good update and when looking at the present squad my main area of concern is halfback. We do not have a clue how well Smith will manage the step up. We would be very lucky if we can go the whole season without Lino getting injured. You then assume Smith and Gaskill as our halves. That is providing Gaskill is fit because sods law, when you need him he'll probably be injured at the same time.'"
Yes halfback is an area we lack depth. To be honest Gaskell played best at centre last season and wasn’t in great form in the halves. He would be challenging for centre in my opinion and I’d sign another halfback as cover/to challenge Lino and Smith. The budget may have to give somewhere though.
What I do think we need to see is the emergence this year of players like Windrow/O’Donnovan and Eseh. Moving into their second full time season and another pre season under their belt I expect them to step up for a handful of games if needed.
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Where else would he go though? He's under contract and presumably Wakefield aren't in a position/inclined to do Leeds-style pay-offs.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"Where else would he go though? He's under contract and presumably Wakefield aren't in a position/inclined to do Leeds-style pay-offs.'"
Nowhere thats the point! Unless his form improves dramatically and somebody wants him then we are stuck with him. Obviously if he finds his form again then getting rid wouldn’t be an issue as he’d be useful to us.
If he doesn’t then we are lumbered as nobody will take over his wage. Then as last season we will effectively be doing a Leeds by letting him play for other clubs for free, it’s just that we are doing it in increments.
We just have to hope Applegarth can find the key to restart what used to be a fairly decent player. I’m assuming that’s what we’d all like to see.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"So as it stands we currently look something like this for 2023:
1. Jowitt
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6. Smith
7. Lino
8.Bowden
9. Hood
10. Whitbread
11. Proctor
12. Tanginoa
13.Crowther
14. Kay
15. Butler
16. Eseh
17. Ashurst
18. Gaskell
19. Bowes
20. Battye
21. Taufua/Kershaw
22. Pitts
23. Iineham
24. Windrow
25. O’donnovan
I think 4/5 more signings are required.
Prop remains number one priority as I’d say we need 2 props.
Loose forward
Fullback (or a good utility back)
Centre (or a good utility back)
If there’s anything left maybe promote a young lad or 2 - don’t we have some good young centres? Carter or Beevers maybe.'"
Did you forget Shaw? Or has he gone?
So that’s one extra prop.
I’d say we only need one extra prop, we’ve more than enough IMHO.
I’d like to see an extra HB and a FB, they look the main priorities for me.
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