The difference being you should be looking to play better not wait for an injury.
That's what Olpherts has done and I'm sure Russell will aim to do the same.
Walmesley is by no means guaranteed a place on his form.

I really hope there is no truth in the Russell rumour.

He has a half decent carry and that’s it.

He has poor hands and the main benefit of him coming will be the night time economy of the city as he’s rarely out of the boozer.

Russell's better than Walmsley. He'll start on the right in my opinion.

Don't really get this negativity about Walmsley.
He lost his place through no fault of his ownand had still managed to score tries despite playing out of position.
I'm not knocking olpherts but walmsley would have eaten the tries olpherts has scored.
He has certainly not lost his fformjust has a different style to olpherts but is just asprolific at scoring tries .

I don't think there is any negativity towards Walmsley. Johnstone will be on the left next season, and Powell has always liked a strong right winger to help with the carries (Carney, McGillvary, Olpherts). I think everyone would agree that he's probably the weakest of the three this year for carries, so he either needs to improve that side of his game or accept he's back up to Johnstone. The fact he's on the right again today makes shows that Powell probably feels the same and his giving him chance to prove himself there.

I think Walmsley carries very well. He regularly carries 2/3 players forward and makes post contact carries. Walmsley hasn’t hit any poor form, he’s playing well still and would have eaten every one of the tries on the left if the opportunity was there.

That said if he’s going to be on the right next season then I’m fine with him getting used to playing there. He was good on the right today and constantly shut Taufua down on kicks.

Someone said Russell is better but I don’t see it. I’d much rather have Walmsley on the wing and Russell will be experienced cover if he comes.

True. And won't take a quota spot.

Last winger from my perspective that deserved a quota spot on SL was Pat Richards...

Think you are massively devaluing the wing spot. Most coaches are now starting to view it as the most important position outside the spine.

Gone are the days of just putting the ball over the line.

Wingers are now responsible for getting the sets going with their first carries out if the back field. If they win contact and get a quick play the ball a team should generally win the arm wrestle in that set. I think that is the issue with Walmsley. Whilst he is a good finisher I’m not sure his carry is at the required level yet.

Players like Abbas Miski these days are a great asset to a team. Great carry and can finish.

Is he chuff, you really have no eye for talent imho.

He wasn’t out of contract when he signed for the Roosters, he dad just under a year to go when he did his ACL and the signing had been announced by then. It would have been an illegal approach so the Roosters will have had to go through the club, hence our ability to add a clause.

I don’t actually know if there is this clause but it’s utterly plausible.

I thought the transfer window rule only applied in Super League.

Russell signed for a NRL club at 20 and played most of his career in SL, Walmsley has never played above Championship level. Maybe you and your eye for talent are right and all the professional coaches were wrong.

There's no transfer window between the NRL and SL, only between RFL affiliated clubs. They were free to approach him whenever they liked.

It does (well, RFL affiliated clubs) and that's why a clause would be bizarre. There was no need for us to be involved in negotiations.

He went over as a fullback, and he was an exciting prospect but he’s 31 and he hasn’t managed to secure regular first team rugby week in week out at any club in SL.

At 31 he’s as good as he ever is going to be, which outside a decent carry, isn’t very.

Walmsley is 26 and in his first year as a full time professional. He does have his faults however he’s only going to get better physically and as a player as he progresses in a full time environment.

Russell has a better carry than Walmsley undoubtedly but I don’t see any other area where he is superior.

Like I said I really hope the rumour isn’t true I don’t see any reason why we would go for him. I’m hopeful it’s simply a case of crossed wires that have grown as a rumour out of our links to Oliver Russell.

Completely agree with you jonh^. In terms of recruitment this might be our trickiest spot.

I remember talking to Matty Russell's old coach at Warrington (Russell will have been about 21 at the time), who said that his footwork was 'scary' and he'd be amazed if he didn't play for England. But he never really got any better. He's great at getting sets started, but that really is it.

He's almost the opposite style of winger to Walmsley (would be very happy to eat my words if you can find Walmsley's post-contact stats and they're anywhere near Olpherts or McGillvary, Trojan).

Walmsley's good under the high ball, class in open space and even better with a tight space to score in. Basically, he's Tom Johnstone playing at 50%. So for balance, next year I'd prefer a Thing on the Wing to skittle knackered defences coming off our own line, like McGillvary but consistently fit and with a few more years in him. Absolutely nothing wrong with Olpherts as back-up (and pushing to start), but I think we should go back into the market for another top winger (Mika Sivo, anyone?) And if that doesn't happen, Walmsley deserves a year to prove he can do it at the top level, but I think he'll prove too light, personally.

As bizarre as Leeds's clause with Jestin Harris?
Of course there was a clause, just like Tomkins had with Wigan, Its not unusual for a club to release a player early and negotiate a return clause

We didn't release him early though, he left his contract expired. Will Catalans have a clause with Johnstone and McMeeken? Huddersfield with Russell?

I think you'll find that he signed his contract whilst still under contract, the agreement is with the player and his agent not the club he's gone to, hence my reference to Jestin Harris

The Walmsley downing i do not get.McGillvary as played 7 games in 22 matches so to me as used Wakefield as a pay check .,so Olpherts is in the team on merit Come as a bit of a surprise the rugby we are playing under the Coaching was hoping for fast open rugby but gone down the root of a big big pack ,that is fine until they get injured then we have no plan B This post as nothing to do with the Bradford match

Don’t agree with that. The injury list is pretty large at the moment and that’s a factor. Trinity players are finding different ways to win although sometimes it’s not pretty.

You play to your strengths and that’s down the middle but we have scored many tries on the edges with good plays so I can’t agree with your thoughts here.

As for McGillvray. I think he’s just been rushed back for Wembley and it appears it’s his arm still that’s the issue. I’m sure he’s wanting to get on the pitch and has been a workhorse when he’s played so he’s worth it based ok that. While we have Walmsley and Olpherts though McGillvray can focus on getting right for the business end.

I'm not sure why people think liking Olpherts on the wing is bagging Walmsley.
Two good players with different styles that's all.

All players use clubs as a pay check, what a daft thing to bash one player about.

Wouldn't worry me too much if we didn't see McGiivray again until the playoffs. Those games will be crucial for the IMG bonus points.

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