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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell".......
I am not arrogant just a realist which for reasons above you cannot be. I believe that some things as loan repayments are part of a confidential agreement so please tell me how anyone other than your controllers at the club will know, it’s how businesses work.'"
That question was raised by you. Seriously Scar. Keep up with your own delusions. We are not qualified to help you with that.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I hope we actually win tonight because it will be a game I can save rather than delete and we need it.'"
When you say 'WE'. Do you mean Wakefield Trinity?
Sorry if I get confused about that sometimes.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"You are really taking your patronage quite seriously and backing the board. I note you didn’t say you enjoyed the seasons before 1998. I see the usual when you take over the club which was a £1 but is now £1m which I guess is inflation however who would want to invest in a club that is currently an embarrassment both on and off the field.
I would correct you again with your persistent misinformation that I do not have a season ticket, I may not use it but I do have one. I won’t expect an apology it’s not what you do unless you are told to do so by those that control you.
I am not arrogant just a realist which for reasons above you cannot be. I believe that some things as loan repayments are part of a confidential agreement so please tell me how anyone other than your controllers at the club will know, it’s how businesses work.'"
I do love people who brand themselves 'realists', as if somehow they are the only ones who know. You really do have nothing to say
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| Quote ="PopTart"That question was raised by you. Seriously Scar. Keep up with your own delusions. We are not qualified to help you with that.'"
I asked what we did with the money saved when we stopped paying the rent upon purchasing the ground. It didn’t go on any ground improvements unless the cost of plastic chairs have increased. I was pointing out that we will have to start paying the ground loan back which will reduce the available funds on top of what we lose from Sky. It is not terribly difficult to understand if you really want to that not having funds now will be even worse next season if we are relegated.
The phrase “there are none so blind as those who will not see” appears rather apt for some on the forum.
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| Win or lose tonight that won't change the face that the club needs a complete rebuild from top to bottom. (Actually perhaps not all the way to the bottom as the Academy appears to be successful). We need a new board with actual ambition and who are prepared to speculate to accumulate. We need a new coach who actually knows how to coach a team and build an attaching structure not a glorified assistant who got a job because he is a good bloke and will have been cheap. We need a complete rebuild of the playing roster which has gradually got worse since circa 2018 due to poor recruitment.
The above all applies whatever division we end up in.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I asked what we did with the money saved when we stopped paying the rent upon purchasing the ground. It didn’t go on any ground improvements unless the cost of plastic chairs have increased. I was pointing out that we will have to start paying the ground loan back which will reduce the available funds on top of what we lose from Sky. It is not terribly difficult to understand if you really want to that not having funds now will be even worse next season if we are relegated.
The phrase “there are none so blind as those who will not see” appears rather apt for some on the forum.'"
This is spot on. I am also interested to know where the Langi money went because he was clearly included in our playing budget before back tracking and staying at Catalans (I don't blame him by the way) If it turns out we spent it on the likes of Sid, Minns, Butler ET al then that is almost as criminal as spunking circa £200k per year on Gaskell and Lineham
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I asked what we did with the money saved when we stopped paying the rent upon purchasing the ground. It didn’t go on any ground improvements unless the cost of plastic chairs have increased. I was pointing out that we will have to start paying the ground loan back which will reduce the available funds on top of what we lose from Sky. It is not terribly difficult to understand if you really want to that not having funds now will be even worse next season if we are relegated.
The phrase “there are none so blind as those who will not see” appears rather apt for some on the forum.'"
We started paying the council loan back, is that not obvious?
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| Quote ="vastman"We started paying the council loan back, is that not obvious?'"
Not yet we haven’t.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I don’t know that will be sensitive information, not even Vastman will know. I ask you what happened to the money saved on the rent once we purchased the ground.'"
I'm disappointed you don't have the answers. Maybe you know where the club got £1.2m contribution towards the current redevelopment?
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Not yet we haven’t.'"
Not true I’m afraid.
We’ve been paying it back for a while and that’s the reason a certain bus route is still running.
No idea where you’ve got that from but it’s an unban myth.
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| Quote ="vastman"Not true I’m afraid.
We’ve been paying it back for a while and that’s the reason a certain bus route is still running.
No idea where you’ve got that from but it’s an unban myth.'"
Depends what you mean by paying it back i guess. I believe it is the loans interest we pay on it now. It’s a low interest rate only available for local government but on a £3m+ loan that still adds up. So in that respect you are correct. The actual repayment part doesn’t kick in until the development is built and operational. It is why the full charge remains on balance sheet.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Well of course.....
............Dont have much choice really as I've been (skanked) paying into Commit 6 this season for next!
Joking aside, I will be there too -whichever league we are in.'"
Is that for a SL or Championship ST?
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| Quote ="Wildcatnomore"Salford had a sugar daddy, Koukash, and got nowhere, they are doing better now and have reached 2 finals recently. According to Rowley, they have the lowest spend on the cap, but i don't know if that's true. How are Warrington and Hull getting on with their resources??! We finished 5th twice in 2017 & 2018 with basically players no-one else wanted, so 'success' can be achieved relatively speaking. Money is only part of it, Have it and waste it, then there's no point having it in the first place.
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Koulash wrote off huge sums of money he poured into Salford - we didn’t have anyone writing ours off when MC took over.do they actually pay rent on the stadium they’re in?
Wherever Salford are at now it’s because people have been financially kind to them on the past.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Win or lose tonight that won't change the face that the club needs a complete rebuild from top to bottom. (Actually perhaps not all the way to the bottom as the Academy appears to be successful). We need a new board with actual ambition and who are prepared to speculate to accumulate. We need a new coach who actually knows how to coach a team and build an attaching structure not a glorified assistant who got a job because he is a good bloke and will have been cheap. We need a complete rebuild of the playing roster which has gradually got worse since circa 2018 due to poor recruitment.
The above all applies whatever division we end up in.'"
What a load of toss .Take it you were one of the many who could not be ars paying 5 POUNDS on wednsday to the fans forum to listen to a bunch of great guys working there but of to turn the club around.Instead you just come on here and knock a club I have watched for 68 years ,Guess when we go down you will be no way near the ground again As it as not sunk in that the poor recruitment of the players is all down to CHESTER .We could have the best coach in the OZZ set up but he would struggle with this squad To blame the present Coach for were we are at presents is way out of line , Most of the cash for players had been wasted on poor players before he took over Sorry for rant altofts wildcat but think it is time you gave the club a bit of slack .No sugar daddy's at Wakefield just guys doing a far better job then you ,me or any body else who comes on fans forum and like it or not there would not be a club with out them
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Depends what you mean by paying it back i guess. I believe it is the loans interest we pay on it now. It’s a low interest rate only available for local government but on a £3m+ loan that still adds up. So in that respect you are correct. The actual repayment part doesn’t kick in until the development is built and operational. It is why the full charge remains on balance sheet.'"
Bingo!!! Yes you are correct.
Anyhow, lets hope we never have to worry about that next season and we manage to stay up. Because if we go down ,optimist or pessimist the clubs income will be drastically lower and massively effect the quality of the team
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Koulash wrote off huge sums of money he poured into Salford - we didn’t have anyone writing ours off when MC took over.do they actually pay rent on the stadium they’re in?
Wherever Salford are at now it’s because people have been financially kind to them on the past.'"
I may be wrong but didn’t Glover leave his money in the club when he left?
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| Yep Glover did leave his money in the club and wrote a loan off.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"What a strange bunch, looking forward to relegation, fed up of punching above our weight, opertunity to rebuild, found our own level.
No wonder Carter gets an easy ride.'"
Seems to me the first paragraph of your post is far more accurate than the second one!
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| Quote ="djcool"Is that for a SL or Championship ST?'"
Not sure what you mean???? - But either.
Doesn't matter to me what League we are in, I will be there.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I may be wrong but didn’t Glover leave his money in the club when he left?'"
I think the club went into liquidation and a new club was formed. I could be wrong though. If I’m right he didn’t leave his money in the club as the club no longer existed. What he did was lose his money. Glover was a stakeholder not a creditor so the new set up owed him nothing.
Whether he lent the new club money then wrote it off I don’t know. I have vague memories of something like this.
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| Team for tonight....
Shaul
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Miller
Lino
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Crowther
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Fifita
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Come on Trin!!!
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Koulash wrote off huge sums of money he poured into Salford - we didn’t have anyone writing ours off when MC took over.do they actually pay rent on the stadium they’re in?
Wherever Salford are at now it’s because people have been financially kind to them on the past.'"
That’s no true, Glover wrote off around £700k when he walked away. For all the stick he gets he really did try and make a difference, he was just naive and put his faith in the wrong man.
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| Toulouse 6 Hull 24 with 16 minutes left...come on Hull
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| Quote ="FIL"Toulouse 6 Hull 24 with 16 minutes left...come on Hull
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Bens sorting that for us
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