You are obviously more adept with the use of the forum, I could only show where to find it.

Yes very strange that, usually McManus and Lenaghan would have been airing their views at every opportunity.

Do you actually read what’s posted.

I never said his stats were good I said OT hadn’t posted them so I couldn’t comment.

He’s not great but he’s not the problem and you know it, you just need a victim.

A couple of weeks ago you’d have agreed with my comment. Now you’ve painted yourself into such a corner the pimp is now your greatest fan. Bit tragic don’t you think?

Be careful the company you keep would be my advise.

What you mean is that their is the Vastman way or no way. I guess you do not understand when members have a common interest and in this case it is fairness and to make sure you are held to the same standards as the rest.
I very much doubt he would ever call me a friend but in this case and probably only this the common denominator is you and your eagerness to insult when confronted.

Seeing that this thread is about stats we need to be mindful when we play Pies that the points difference with Toulouse is now down to 30 points.
Although there is talk to the contrary,PD may well play a big part at the end of the season.Apologies if someone has already pointed this out.

I think ultimately we just need to go into every game with intent to win. No resting players and we fight for every point.

How many times over the years have we lost to teams at the bottom to then go onto winning a game against a team in the top half.

Points difference is a factor we do need to think about but you cannot pick and choose your games. We should be aiming to turn Wigan over at home and if we do we will need to worry far less about Toulouse or any points difference seperati g us from them.

Finally those thinking Jowitt will save the day are likely to be dissapointed. As an attacking FB and under the high ball Jowitt is first class, but his defence, especially near the line remain very weak IMHO.'"

Shouldn’t get drawn in but if you care to check my post going back to when Jowitt broke through I’ve always said his defence was suspect, nearly as suspect as Ryan’s. Go on I dare you, go and have a look.

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As one who wants jowitt reinstated at FB, I don’t think he is perfect, or without fault, simply that he is the best FB on the books.

No what I posted is you get away with comment that I get pulled over the coals for and was aimed at PT, as per usual you stick your nose into what wasn't for you
personally I don't give a toss either way why you think you just have a go at just about every poster who disagrees to what you think

You are a first class A hole if you don't like what post put me on ignore it not shut the frig up

At least Jowitt get near enough to tacklel Gaskell as never mist a tackel,as he never gets near enough to make one

You make me laugh you really do. Your one of those who think they have a god given right to spout any old crap they want, especially when they are in a mood.

Someone like me challenges them and they can’t bear it. Suddenly they get nasty like you always do. Your just a big man baby who can give it but can’t take it.

Truth is there are very few people on here I’ve ever seriously argued with despite your silly attempts to claim otherwise.

Most people either like what I post or totally ignore it because they don’t like what I post. There is a choice. This is a forum, the whole idea is that people can post anonymously view that they can’t do normally within the rules of the board obviously.

If it’s any consultation I don’t mind you, mainly because I don’t know you as indeed you don’t know me so why make it personal? most of what you post is sound enough. It’s only when your obvious bitterness about something, no idea what it is, seeps in. Then you are a monumental pain on here.

Now if you’ll excuse me I’ll get back to my breakfast.

People - the constant bickering and snarking is getting draining. Keep it to PM's or as has been alluded to, put each other on ignore
if needs be.
Posts will be deleted in future and possibly time out from the forum for persistent posters.

Jowitts defence has been suspect ever since I’ve watched him, but every player in our team has suspect parts of their game. If he was red hot in attack and defence and was the full package he simply wouldn’t be playing for us. I don’t think this knowledge will be alien to either him or the coaches and im sure he’ll work on both this and his positional defending to try and reduce himself in vulnerable positions in defence.

There is no question that the role of full back has changed, as have lots of elements evolved in the game. However, I don’t particularly remember many moments where MJ pulled off a brilliant tackle that saved the game ( or the alleged God Rocky). We had some players in the past who lacked pace and other skills but their “last line of defence” was memorable and snuffed out line breaks as a result. Gaskell is 100% not that man.

Agreed

Martin Holland was the last FB we had whose tackling was outstanding and whose attacking game was reasonable.

Since then most of our FB's have been attacking based and their defence has been moderate to poor IMHO.

You can see WP's logic in using a creative player in the FB role. Sadly I don't think he is proving any more creative than Jowitt and defensively is not just worse but far worse. If it was an experiment then fine but it didn't work and needs to stop if Poching wants to keep the fans onside. There is a time to stick to your guns as a coach but this imo isn't one.

Agree about Holland but I reckon you have to go back to Geoff Wraith for a master of both attack and defence.

Spencer was excellent but just a bit lacking in pace.

Regarding George Fairburn: Brian Juliff steamrollered him three times scoring a hat-trick at Wigan back in the day.