Unlimited funds compared to us not the other NRL teams.

Harvard already rebuffed 2 approached from Melbourne.

I think his contract has a further year in Wigan’s favour.

He won’t be in SL beyond the age of 24/5 though. He may sign one more contract at Wigan before going to the NRL.

We are constantly being told that we have the smallest playing budget therefore it is imperative that this is spent wisely. The problem is that for this season it was not with I would suggest the bulk going to Gaskell and Lineham. I would also add the money wasted on Brough who many pointed out me included that he was too old for a one year contract let alone two and no longer the player he was.
I hope that we survive these obvious failures but I fear that we will struggle to retain our better players and will look to replace with the too old or too young but whatever we do rather than continue to tell us what we know about our finances use it more wisely.

So if you are going back to Brough for your 'failures' are you accepting that Lino, Westerman, Hall, Lewis Murphy and Batch resigning were all good recruitment?
Personally I'd put Kay and Hood in that too personally.

Not every signing will work perfectly, especially when they get injured straight away like Lineham and Gaskell but that's just how it goes.

When you are in the financial position we are told we are in all signings must improve the team or it is money wasted, do you not agree. I could of added Atkins and let’s not forget that Murphy and Batchelor were existing players so not really recruited. If we used your same criteria it was folly to allow Westerman to leave if he was one of our better signings which I don’t disagree.
I could add Chester which club would agree to pay him his salary for the duration of an unsigned agreement. I wonder how much that would remove from the club’s budget for this season.

We didn't allow him to leave, he left.
We still needed to resign them and their wage comes out of the same money pot as the new signings.

We released several players at the end of last season thereby saving the club money. I note you do not mention the Chester situation which you must agree would have been or was an unnecessary waste of vital resources.
The truth is you can quote our budget but that doesn’t excuse the players we have signed this season and the problems we face to survive.

I think the term is less of a loss rather than saving money £400k is a pretty big hole to cover.

Gaskell and Lineman were not fit when they got here ,and did we need them Hood is the same did we need him If there are not better than what we got why sign them .Fans are pointing out that with the small budget we got .the club can not afford to carry any body .This is not a one off it as been going on for the last 3 year, This as got to be the one of the worst pack i have seen since we got into S L .Not saying they have not been good S L players they are old now .The club have been giving out too long a contracts to players who were past there best when they joined the club We have done a lot of panic buying and now lot of fans are panicking that we could get religated .Remember.most of our core of the team ,Miller ,T J ,Dave, are out of contract this year so we could be left with the same old injury prone players with out the core who have carried the team for the last 3 years .Ask your self this how many games have we won when J M, T J and Dave have been missing

If you mean paying him the agreed contract money, as was explained to you at the time, it did not come from the club.
And coaches salary does not come under salary cap.
So no. It had no impact on any of this.

Not sure why you are going round in circles. As a reminder. We have made some good signings, and we have signed some players that got injured. I'm not sure what you think is being excuses.


But hey, you carry on trying to find a negative to moan about if it makes you happy.

I'm not sure how many games we've played with all 3 missing but we beat Warrington without two of them.

I get your point but we are where we are.
If we go down then those players weren't good enough.

And I'm not sure which forwards you'd have rather signed that were available to us.

I think it’s agreed by most that Trinity needed SL standard props to be signed not wingers (Lineham, Minns & Davetanilavu) or back rowers at the end of last season.

The squad appears unbalanced and doesn’t appear to have sufficient strength in depth in key positions in the pack and clearly struggle when the best 17 aren’t available…

I know plenty who were astounded that we took Gaskel as it was common knowledge within the game that his hamstring was literally hanging by a thread.

Signing Linham was desperate and a total head scratcher when we had Murphy coming through, Kay who was signed as a winger, Croft who could play either centre or wing and we let Olly Greensmith go despite his try scoring form playing on the wing for Doncaster. We still have Bill Tupou and we could also have retained Hampshire

Signing wingers when we had so many other options smacks of the ridiculous signing of Alex Walker when we already had Jowitt and Hampshire, it’s a stupid waste of the small player budget when we desperately need strengthening in other areas of the team.

In the meantime we have desperately needed at least 2 SL standard front row forwards for around 2 to 3 years and we sign Battye from relegated London and Whitbread from relegated Leigh. We’d have been better off signing their namesakes Nora and Fatima.

I don’t know who’s making the decisions on recruitment but whoever it is or was got more wrong than right.
It’s not being negative PT, it’s calling it out for exactly what it is

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I don't think your comment is negative at all.
But it does ignore tge fact that most of the wingers you talked about were injured and we didn't know Murphy would transition so well to 1st team.
A metre gaining winger is pretty much as valuable as a metre gaining prop these days. You need both.

But as with Scarlet, you link a perceived bad signing and say recruitment is terrible while ignoring the good recruitment.

For a guy who has such ‘knowledge’ you’re another one who bends the truth to suit.

I could argue most of what you say to but opinions are opinions but the most laughable comment regards Murphy. Absolute tosh I'm afraid.

When we signed Lineman virtually nobody on here had heard of Murphy. I was one of the first to mention him and all I said was he looked promising.

Nobody had any idea he’d be cementing a place at this stage and in truth, he wouldn’t have had Lineham stayed fit.

Murphy was in nobody's plans including yours for this season so stop it with the hindsight stuff. You’re definitely not telling it how it is your spinning it in that regard.

When people come on the forum to suggest we sign a player in an attempt to increase our survival chances you are the one who constantly quotes the fact our finances are not like the other clubs therefore even you must accept that this increases the importance that we use it wisely. I think that this is not always the case especially this season. I would believe that the majority of clubs can make an error and just go with it we cannot. I am afraid that whoever is responsible for player signings have failed in the majority this season and now leaves us open to the possibility of relegation.

Learn to use quotes please, nobody has any idea who's post you are answering

I thought it was obvious and unnecessary especially the reference to constantly uses the clubs finances to justify why we have stagnation in relating to any signings when suggested by others but there you go, silly me for not realising someone doesn’t know what they post about.
At least it made one of your regular supporters happy but I doubt that is a particular high bar to reach.

So if it was aimed at me as I'm still confused, what's it got to do with Murphy?

But aren't you saying the same thing?
Club finances are an issue when recruiting.

We can't just go for anyone we like.
What you call a failure might actually have been the absolute best available to us.

Just look at the props we have signed in the last 2-3 years, Green, Battye, Navarette, Tangata, the guy from London who's just another anonymous player. It just annoys me when certain people constantly say it's lack of funds for our constant being in the bottom 4. We had similar funds when we were knocking on the door of the top 4 just 4 years ago. I understand players in certain positions don't just fall out of the sky, but I think it's pretty obvious we've needed props for quite some time now, but have wasted money on players we just simply didn't need, i.e Atkins, Gigot etc. The squad always seems unevenly balanced to me.

Spot on

No we can’t but what money we have should be more carefully spent. It was obvious we lacked a prop or two. The lad in the academy is too raw, the one we signed from London was unknown at SL level and Whitbread is not big enough. I would say the same for Arona and Battye, but we chose to spend the money elsewhere and we are now facing the consequences and if these are the best we could muster then we are in big trouble.
What I was pointing out that it is not correct to just say we do not have the budget when someone suggests what we need because the money we had was spent by the club with what appears to be no thought on what most people knew we needed.
I note Vastman quotes Salford because they managed to sign players which he finds implausible considering their earning potential. I don’t know if they are pushing their luck financially but they are still going.

Tolouse have announced they have signed an nrl prop for the relegation battle.