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| Well last night was a very poor team performance it happens not very often to the degree served last night move on now.
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| Quote ="upthecats"Thought it was interesting what Radford said post match about their game coming up with Leeds on Monday and the short turnaround…”you feel alright at kick off and 10 minutes in you find there’s nothing in your legs”. For me that was us in a nutshell…
Just looked physically and mentally drained from kick off.
Cas signalled their intent right from the start…Watts and Westerman doing what they wanted…just making easy metres…no line speed, no aggression in our defence like there has been for the most part this season. Our rucks were so slow, our forwards so easily dominated the backs didn’t have a chance.
Need a big freshen up for Monday…not losing faith in this group just yet…'"
Dont suppose you seen any post match from willie have you ?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Dont suppose you seen any post match from willie have you ?'"
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Quote ="Luppylad"Dont suppose you seen any post match from willie have you ?'" .
Was a clip posted on rl with jd Facebook page with reaction from both coaches….Willie sounded pretty deflated as you’d expect…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c1dtmz
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Was a clip posted on rl with jd Facebook page with reaction from both coaches….Willie sounded pretty deflated as you’d expect…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c1dtmz
Last 2-3 minutes of clip…
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| Quote ="Travelling Wilbury"It wasn't Chester and it's not Poching.
Is it someone else who pulls the strings at the club??'"
Well most have had a go here's your chance, would you like to elaborate on your statement and tell us who the real culprit is.
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| Quote ="dpbnov"The morning after the night before. Two things before I rant. First, Tom and Liam K are probably the only two out of the team that took the field last night who do not deserve scathing criticism and who come out of last night’s embarrassment with some level of respectability. Second, neither a four-day turnaround nor Chris Kendall are legitimate excuses for the lack of effort and pride which epitomised yesterday evening’s appalling ‘performance’.
Pick the bones out of that one. Where do you start? How about with the straw that broke the camel’s back and the moment which, for the first time in over 40 years of watching WT, forced me to leave the ground with nearly 20 minutes to go in absolute disgust - that farcical play-the-ball near our own line which led to another embarrassing Cas score and which will surely feature on the ‘what happened next’ round on Question of Sport. What a joke. That team last night deserve to be the laughing stock of the rugby league community this morning. I won’t call it amateur because quite frankly that would be a slur on the amateur rugby league playing community. It was a moment that just typified what was a dumb, gutless, clueless and prideless ‘performance’. That shower should be ashamed of themselves and made to watch that moment on repeat this morning in the review assuming of course that they actually have a review.
The team well and truly stank the place out last night and, given what they produced on the pitch, they need to take a good, long hard look at themselves and ask - do I really deserve to be paid for that ‘performance’. Answer – no you do not. They should be receiving a written warning off the back of that ‘effort’.
The fans deserve better. We give up our hard-earned money to pay your wages. We give up our precious time to watch and support you. We don’t ask for a lot in return – just some effort and pride in what you do. Do you honestly think it is acceptable to repay us by serving up that complete tripe? Many of you are not fit to lace up the boots of the great players of the past who have worn the red, white and blue. Keep putting in shifts like that and there’ll be nobody in the brand spanking new stadium turning up to watch that crap and half of you will be unemployed. God help any of you who I see around the city after serving up that dross.
Back down to earth with a massive bump and a huge reality check. With showings like that, if anyone thinks that we will not be in the relegation dog fight this season then think again. We narrowly beat the bottom of the table side at home. We were lucky to play the Warrington side when we did. We nearly threw the Salford came with 40 mins of second half drivel.
Let some of the reserves show us what they are made of at Wigan on Monday and let the majority of that embarrassing joke of a first team spend the duration of the match running up and down Cannonball hill and afterwards make them appear on Trinity TV and apologise to the fans for the absolute garbage they have just made us endure. Stop stealing a wage, bend your backs and play with some damn pride!'"
Apart from all that, is everything all right at your end
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| Quote ="chissitt"Apart from all that, is everything all right at your end
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What did you think of the performance last night ?
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| Its not an individual thing. It's no good trying to pick out any players at fault, or blaming our recruitment or sending overseas players home to get some mythical better player from NRL, or even suddenly deciding the reserves or academy or so much better than the team that played.
Whatever the issue it affected the whole team. Whether that's fatigue or over confidence or tactics or just apathy, it's the same team we all thought was destined for greater things when we beat Warrington twice and hammered Salford in one half of rugby.
Cas were never as rubbish as people made out and they played well to dominate us and take advantage of our issues.
We need to freshen up where needed and get back on the horse.
It hurts losing to Cas, especially in that style but there are plenty more games to go and it's this team and this coach that will have to step it up.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Its not an individual thing. It's no good trying to pick out any players at fault, or blaming our recruitment or sending overseas players home to get some mythical better player from NRL, or even suddenly deciding the reserves or academy or so much better than the team that played.
Whatever the issue it affected the whole team. Whether that's fatigue or over confidence or tactics or just apathy, it's the same team we all thought was destined for greater things when we beat Warrington twice and hammered Salford in one half of rugby.
Cas were never as rubbish as people made out and they played well to dominate us and take advantage of our issues.
We need to freshen up where needed and get back on the horse.
It hurts losing to Cas, especially in that style but there are plenty more games to go and it's this team and this coach that will have to step it up.'"
Agree, but I still feel that we need another prop with a bit of 'grunt' -who that man is and is he available, can we afford etc, I dunno.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What did you think of the performance last night ?'"
How did I know that the yellow band across my screen would be you having a chomp, there is a reason for that as you well know, why don't you try using the ignore button or do you still have a fascination for me
As for last nights debacle I thought it was embarrassing, but for me it stops at the gate on the way out, on reflection I could have found better things to do, but it is what it is and come Mondays game which I won't be attending as I no longer go to away games, If we do miraculously win which will have to have a complete turnaround it will go a long way to negate this negativity being shown on here, I asked George btw if he had seen you but hadn't, sorry for the long winded reply.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Its not an individual thing. It's no good trying to pick out any players at fault, or blaming our recruitment or sending overseas players home to get some mythical better player from NRL, or even suddenly deciding the reserves or academy or so much better than the team that played.
Whatever the issue it affected the whole team. Whether that's fatigue or over confidence or tactics or just apathy, it's the same team we all thought was destined for greater things when we beat Warrington twice and hammered Salford in one half of rugby.
Cas were never as rubbish as people made out and they played well to dominate us and take advantage of our issues.
We need to freshen up where needed and get back on the horse.
It hurts losing to Cas, especially in that style but there are plenty more games to go and it's this team and this coach that will have to step it up.'"
Insufficient quality in the front row in my opinion. Is it really seeking a ‘mythical player’ to not be able to find a better quality prop in reserve grade in the NRL? I don’t think so.
We’ve found Arona,Whitbread, Fifita etc why not another one to join them?
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| Quote ="chissitt"How did I know that the yellow band across my screen would be you having a chomp, there is a reason for that as you well know, why don't you try using the ignore button or do you still have a fascination for me
As for last nights debacle I thought it was embarrassing, but for me it stops at the gate on the way out, on reflection I could have found better things to do, but it is what it is and come Mondays game which I won't be attending as I no longer go to away games, If we do miraculously win which will have to have a complete turnaround it will go a long way to negate this negativity being shown on here, I asked George btw if he had seen you but hadn't, sorry for the long winded reply.'"
It’s an opinion something you rarely give but ask of others to justify theirs. I would be worried if the elusive George had seen me because I have said I cannot currently attend matches but that didn’t stop me buying a season ticket.
I think people have long ago realised your posts are designed to be inflammatory because you are just fishing as stated above by you (that must be why your hobby is keeping fish). I would use the ignore button but I cannot allow your inaccuracies even if you are trolling to go without being corrected because it makes you look stupid which I find enjoyable.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Insufficient quality in the front row in my opinion. Is it really seeking a ‘mythical player’ to not be able to find a better quality prop in reserve grade in the NRL? I don’t think so.
We’ve found Arona,Whitbread, Fifita etc why not another one to join them?'"
But it was said that Arona and Whitbread are not good enough so I'm not sure where the better player is that we can afford.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s an opinion something you rarely give but ask of others to justify theirs. I would be worried if the elusive George had seen me because I have said I cannot currently attend matches but that didn’t stop me buying a season ticket.
I think people have long ago realised your posts are designed to be inflammatory because you are just fishing as stated above by you (that must be why your hobby is keeping fish). I would use the ignore button[u but I cannot allow your inaccuracies even if you are trolling to go without being corrected because it makes you look stupid which I find enjoyable[/u.'"
Regarding last nights game, unlike you what's just had minor surgery removing a foot from your mouth and could not attend, I'm qualified to talk about last nights game, and before you try to twist things to your advantage let me say that I completely agree with what's been said on here, therefore there is little point in me adding to overwhelming criticism of individual players and the team in general, that's not my style squire, in fifteen years I've been on here I have never openly criticised a player and I'm not about to lower my standards to that of yours just to be on a par with you, congratulations btw on buying a season ticket, I'm sure we will hear about on many occasions before the seasons out.
As you say there will be some on here that don't agree with me that's life squire that's something I'll just have to live with, but I'm still not sure why it should interest you, you keep mentioning my fish in your posts if you want some tips then just ask, but I have to say keeping both tropical and marine fish is a big step up from a goldfish, you clearly don't agree with me so why do you persist in trying to interact with me when I've pleaded with before now to stop stalking me, finally you mention my alleged trolling, but your obviously not very bright as you 've just admitted trolling me yourself, the thread is called enough and I've had enough of your chomping, so please try giving somebody else a headache, it's simple really just ignore me, you are after all by your admission a man of learning
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s an opinion something you rarely give but ask of others to justify theirs. I would be worried if the elusive George had seen me because I have said I cannot currently attend matches but that didn’t stop me buying a season ticket.
I think people have long ago realised your posts are designed to be inflammatory because you are just fishing as stated above by you (that must be why your hobby is keeping fish). I would use the ignore button but I cannot allow your inaccuracies even if you are trolling to go without being corrected because it makes you look stupid which I find enjoyable.'"
So you are having a go at someone for giving his opinion when you haven't given yours....and actually asked for an opinion.
You seem to live in your own little world.
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| I think you lack the necessary knowledge of Chissitt, he even confirms why he posts. His modus operandi is to question why a post is made whilst never giving one himself. I do not offer an opinion for last night’s debacle because I was not in attendance but he was happy to ask others to justify their post without ever giving one of his own until confronted with the truth.
I guess you are happy to allow those who troll on the forum but not those that question their limited logic. I suppose you didn’t like my post highlighting why Hampshire left and your failure to understand the context.
I will continue to point out his inaccuracies because they cannot be allowed without correction and believe me there are many usually defending the actions of de Pfeffel on the sin bin.
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| Just watched the highlights.
Every try Cas scored was to the right of the posts or wide right. That right edge will really need to sort out their defence and quickly. We didn’t actually concede a single try on the left side.
I’m still fuming about yesterday.
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| Chissitt you appear to know via your mysterious mate George all about me if quite a bit appears to come from your vivid imagination. I have had to correct you on a number of false statements you have made about me. It appears you also have the same problem when posting defence of de Pfeffel, which I feel need correcting the fact it makes you look stupid is a bonus but you can call it trolling. I am sure there are some on here who will confirm this to be correct.
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| Quote ="PopTart"But it was said that Arona and Whitbread are not good enough so I'm not sure where the better player is that we can afford.'"
Not said by me. Both are up to SL standard but not enough strength in depth at prop. I don’t know what the club can afford do you?
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| From day one this season the only objective for my money was to ensure super league survival 11th place 10th at best but I struggled to see with the squad available and the woeful player recruitment and retention over the last 2-3 season who was going to finish below other than Toulouse and maybe Salford.
Trinity have a number of players who should have been offloaded a number of seasons ago.
Bill Tupou, Tinirau Arona, Marty Ashurst, in particular are all way past their best I am starting to wonder if Bill will ever play a decent run of games again.
Player recruitment has been appalling I struggle to see why the club needed Tom Lineham a good player 3-4 season ago came with baggage and it’s backfired with injury Liam Hood, Lee Gaskell are also complete mysteries to me simply awful signings for a club with limited finances.
Jai Whitebread dose not warrant an overseas quota spot a panic buy at best.
The pack is woefully out gunned by most clubs in the front row we have one out and out super league quality prop in David Fifita Eddie Battye gives 100% and is a quality championship player.
That said with 6 points from 8 games I would have taken that on the opening day of the season.
And if Super League survival is achieved this season with a decent crop of players coming through seasons to come could bring more optimism.
One last point Greg Eden once in our academy was he ever offered a contract if not why not he was always a stand out player in the Academy.
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| Well just watched Hull FC play just as badly as us, get stitched up by the ref and also play a ball with no one ready and the opposition ran round and got possession. It was like reliving a nightmare.
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"From day one this season the only objective for my money was to ensure super league survival 11th place 10th at best but I struggled to see with the squad available and the woeful player recruitment and retention over the last 2-3 season who was going to finish below other than Toulouse and maybe Salford.
Trinity have a number of players who should have been offloaded a number of seasons ago.
Bill Tupou, Tinirau Arona, Marty Ashurst, in particular are all way past their best I am starting to wonder if Bill will ever play a decent run of games again.
Player recruitment has been appalling I struggle to see why the club needed Tom Lineham a good player 3-4 season ago came with baggage and it’s backfired with injury Liam Hood, Lee Gaskell are also complete mysteries to me simply awful signings for a club with limited finances.
Jai Whitebread dose not warrant an overseas quota spot a panic buy at best.
The pack is woefully out gunned by most clubs in the front row we have one out and out super league quality prop in David Fifita Eddie Battye gives 100% and is a quality championship player.
That said with 6 points from 8 games I would have taken that on the opening day of the season.
And if Super League survival is achieved this season with a decent crop of players coming through seasons to come could bring more optimism.
One last point Greg Eden once in our academy was he ever offered a contract if not why not he was always a stand out player in the Academy.'"
Don’t get your point regarding players retention? Apart from Westerman who have we not retained?
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| Quote ="vastman"Don’t get your point regarding players retention? Apart from Westerman who have we not retained?'"
Johnty Parkin has gone to Hull KR for £100. Do keep up.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Well just watched Hull FC play just as badly as us, get stitched up by the ref and also play a ball with no one ready and the opposition ran round and got possession. It was like reliving a nightmare.'"
The knock on the ref gave against the Hull player when the ball went backwards was a bad one especially when K R scored from the scrum
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| As already mentioned by many on here, a bad night at the office. Fortunately for us theres 21 games to go to try and win. We all know its going to be an uphill struggle , buts its not as though this is the first time its happened to us in superleague. Every season we are written off and we`ve still avoided the drop. One day it will probably catch us up, but we`ve been in this league more seasons than the likes of Bradford Bulls and continuously longer than Cas and Shudds. So have a rant at the result but remember, this club as been punching well above its weight for the last 23 years.
Finally why have a forum if its only to have a personal spat with someone who is probably stood a few metres from you shouting for the same team.
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