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| Poching out, bring back Chessie.
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| Quote ="snowie"Underwhelming second half too
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| Friendly or no friendly losing against a semi professional team is not acceptable in my opinion. Our lack of discipline was atrocious and our contact was soft too much. Out enthused and sadly out muscled. Really disappointing
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| Quote ="PopTart"Fev played like they wanted to win, we played like it was a friendly knock about.
Some wild passes, strange decisions and poor discipline.'"
It was a friendly knock about. Always good to win, but losing a friendly gives us plenty to work on.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"It was a friendly knock about. Always good to win, but losing a friendly gives us plenty to work on.
Up the Trin'"
It wasn't a friendly knock about.
It was a friendly where we had the opportunity to run game plans, see how far we have to go and get people fitter.
There were good things in the game but I felt our attack was stunted.
The result isn't a problem, but there is definitely work to do.
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| Whilst I understand it was only a friendly there were some worrying things about that performance.
Our edges got dominated by 2 veterans well past their best in Moores and Seni Lafao. Physically we were not on the same level as Fev and we do look very light across the pitch apart from Fafita.
The lack of enthusiasm was a concern and it only seemed to be when we subbed on the younger lads in the last 20 that they brought a bit of spark to the team.
Miller and Gaskill didn’t really gel at all and Hood didn’t have a great game around the ruck making some poor choices particularly after we had made a break.
Lineham looks a stone overweight to the detriment of his pace however Hall I thought went well again in the centre.
Not acceptable to turn up with a poor attitude even if it was a friendly.
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| Well that has either bundled up all our rubbish and let it out at Fev or confirmed that when faced with a poor team we can always win the race to the bottom.
In the 80 minutes we managed one piece of rugby when the superb pass from Gaskell put in Bachelor and Max's 3 superb conversions. But Miller's headless chicken routine resurfaced and Ashurst must wonder why he puts himself in place to be constantly whacked from the suicide passes he receives.
Fafita has got to put his brother's injury behind him or he will become a soft touch for opposition getting him sent off or binned.
On the positive side, it can only get better, in fact, a Covid abandonment would probably make better watching.
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| Quote ="PopTart"It wasn't a friendly knock about.
It was a friendly where we had the opportunity to run game plans, see how far we have to go and get people fitter.
There were good things in the game but I felt our attack was stunted.
The result isn't a problem, but there is definitely work to do.'"
Am sorry PT there wasnt anthing good in that other than it was a friendly dont want to seem negative as it was that a friendly but we carry on that way we wont win a game and im not saying it will but today was poor in every department.
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| How much should we read into a friendly game ?
Fev were deserved winners, no question and not too many plusses, other than everyone got some minutes into their legs.
Gaskill and Miller in the halves wont frighten anyone and the best that we can say for our pack is that hopefully they are saving themselves.
On the plus side, there is PLENTY to work on.
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| Thought our discipline was poor. Hoods offence on the 5th tackle was very poor and Dave's retaliation was also a poor response in possession making yards and we give away a penalty and another sinbinning.
That said it was a full on game and Fev really gave it to us. When we scored on half time going uphill putting us 4 behind I thought we would win comfortably with the slope but some poor play and options really cost us a lot of possession and territory.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Thought our discipline was poor. Hoods offence on the 5th tackle was very poor and Dave's retaliation was also a poor response in possession making yards and we give away a penalty and another sinbinning.
That said it was a full on game and Fev really gave it to us. When we scored on half time going uphill putting us 4 behind I thought we would win comfortably with the slope but some poor play and options really cost us a lot of possession and territory.'"
In DF defence we dont know what lockwood did surley hes done somthing fir dave to react like that added to the fact he didnt come back on either
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| Gaskell and Miller did not work in any capacity. There was not even a shred of link up play. The panicked kick into a charging fev line from Gaskell I believe was atrocious play.
The defence on the right side was poor. Fev consistently went down our right side defence and had repeated success. Between Gaskell, Pitts, Lyne and Lineham something went horribly wrong.
As has been said the discipline was terrible and losing/turning over the ball in possession repeated times was poor.
As for Individuals. TJ played well, plenty of metres, a good chase back and I don’t believe any tries or breaks were made resulting from the left side D. It all came down the right side/centre. Fifita was (other than the retaliation) the best forward on the pitch by a country mile.
We need another big prop to punch holes imo. I’d stick Jai straight back to 13 as well where he had a brilliant game vs Fax and looked effective.
A lot of work to do.
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| That’s was a Chester-esque performance today - I thought Featherstone were excellent, lots of energy, their forwards kept on turning up even though I thought they looked gassed at times.
I wont pick out individuals for criticism, but I felt that the creative department didn’t function, and consistently made very poor decisions. The return of Lino should remedy this I would expect.
Sene-Lafeo won the s*ithousery award of the day and did a great job at frustrating us.
As a genuine indicator of our pre season, this is a big worry. It’s another tough year ahead.
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| On a positive note I thought batch took his try well
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| Probably should have kept hold of Kopczak….
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Gaskell and Miller did not work in any capacity. There was not even a shred of link up play. The panicked kick into a charging fev line from Gaskell I believe was atrocious play.
The defence on the right side was poor. Fev consistently went down our right side defence and had repeated success. Between Gaskell, Pitts, Lyne and Lineham something went horribly wrong.
As has been said the discipline was terrible and losing/turning over the ball in possession repeated times was poor.
As for Individuals. TJ played well, plenty of metres, a good chase back and I don’t believe any tries or breaks were made resulting from the left side D. It all came down the right side/centre. Fifita was (other than the retaliation) the best forward on the pitch by a country mile.
We need another big prop to punch holes imo. I’d stick Jai straight back to 13 as well where he had a brilliant game vs Fax and looked effective.
A lot of work to do.'"
Yep...I was disappointed that Whitbread didn't come back on, so I'm guessing Willie wanted to see how the likes of Crowther and Arona would go on. I think he now has his answer. Other than setting up Batchelor's try Gaskell was very ineffective today, so Walker should get the nod against Hull for me (assuming Lino is nowhere near yet ??)
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| Out enthused all over the field was our problem today and didn’t have an answer to their go forward for most of the game ,let’s hope the attitude changes in time for hull , or we’re in for a torrid time . Yes it’s only a friendly , but I know which coach will be the happiest of the two
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| Quote ="Luppylad"In DF defence we dontbkniw what lockeood did surley hes done somthing fir dave to react like that added to the fact he didnt come back on either'"
I am not saying nothing went off that's for match officials the players need to respect the fact that we have possession and to give it away through a penalty and 10 mins in the bin is harsh on your teammates. Dave indicated to his throat when coming off. If the discipline find anything then action should be taken.
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| Quote ="snowie"On a positive note I thought batch took his try well'"
Played well did batch. Made some good yards and runs.
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| Quote ="FIL"Yep...I was disappointed that Whitbread didn't come back on, so I'm guessing Willie wanted to see how the likes of Crowther and Arona would go on. I think he now has his answer. Other than setting up Batchelor's try Gaskell was very ineffective today, so Walker should get the nod against Hull for me (assuming Lino is nowhere near yet ??)'"
Batch mostly scored that through pure determination. Walker should definitely get the nod based on pre season form.
I really don’t want to start getting on players backs this early but Crowther needs to find a way to link into play better. He mostly ends up driving it into a cluster of players. Whether that’s down to him or the plays needs addressing but we need a pair of hands and attacking options at 13. On Whitbread scoring 2 and setting/being involved in 2 assists vs fax he needs to be starting at 13 vs hull on form.
Other than Fifita our forwards were largely ineffective today so I won’t single out Arona but there needs to be improvements.
I’m not going to go all doom and gloom. It’s a friendly and past today who cares.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Probably should have kept hold of Kopczak….'"
Don't know about him, but a prop of his size and ability would be good.
On a plus I think Hall looks ready for a first team spot already.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Don't know about him, but a prop of his size and ability would be good.
On a plus I think Hall looks ready for a first team spot already.'"
Koppy was let go at the right time. He wasn’t as effective as I expected at wakey and the championship is his level now.
We do need a player with his size though. We lack another monster in the front row. It’s a position that’s been hard to fill not just for wakey though.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"Don't know about him, but a prop of his size and ability would be good.
On a plus I think Hall looks ready for a first team spot already.'"
One of the few shiny sweetcorns in a lacklustre toilet of a performance was Corey.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Koppy was let go at the right time. He wasn’t as effective as I expected at wakey and the championship is his level now.
We do need a player with his size though. We lack another monster in the front row. It’s a position that’s been hard to fill not just for wakey though.'"
The performance that Kopczak produced today is something I didn't see from him in two seasons at Wakefield. He was used as a ball handling prop and most of the time he passed out of the back like an extra half back and it caused us problems. To round it off he managed to carry four over the line with him which I also never saw him replicate in a Wakefield shirt. I actually thought for the amount of field position they had our defence held up quite well in our own twenty. I'm not too concerned as it was a friendly and I think another eighty minutes will do the players good. Does anyone else think we need an extra friendly though? Seems odd to be to only have in reality two friendlies with first team players involved and then a three week gap until our first Super League fixture?
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| I alluded to our forward prowess/power on here recently and was told by more than one on here that we are fine in that department, well after our forwards were shown the way today by so called (has been’s ) of super league I think I’ve vindicated my concerns with moors and lefao making yards at will in the game .Time and time again we were rolled down the field on the back of their pack and an energetic back line . Not good enough in a friendly and certainly not good enough for a team I’m hoping will be mid table come the end of season . Positives out of today’s game for me were no obvious injuries and a good solid hit out whilst also there is still time to iron the flaws in our attack/defence out .Having watched HKR dismantle Dewsbury with consummate ease on fri night IMO we are way off the pace and power that’s needed on today’s showing ,and yes Fev are a much harder nut to crack than the Rams ,but we are just not on the money at present with just a few weeks to go until the serious stuff begins.
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