That is the problem C C as not had a lot of money to spend ,but he as waisted most of it by buying players for possions we did not need to strengthen ,and worse than the players that were in that passion .As for fans who say no Coach could do any better with the squad we got good job B Smith did not have that attitude when he came in He kicked out the players he did not want,, and replaced with players he though could do a better job Did this in less than half a season .and for any player in is team that was not quite were he wanted them to be he helped them by making us one of the fittest teams in S L

The standard reply from those who lose the argument why don’t you take over the club. I would remind you it was your post that stated we spent too much on two players and no I have not seen the accounts, I doubt any of us not even you have. I don’t know what’s going on at the club but I do know how our performances are on the field. The club could be run like a Swiss watch but if the product they are trying to sell is failing nothing would save the business even relying on a band of loyal customers.
I actually think it’s quite amusing that you believe we have a long term plan what do you base that assumption on because I have not noticed one.
I won’t resort to insults, I leave that to you because it proves you are just trying to deflect from the obvious failures.

Your first two or three lines sum up perfectly how we spend our money and in sure Walmsley at Whitehaven is a quality player but do we need another fullback/winger, who will also take up a quota spot?
If recent dealings are anything to go by, he's nailed on to be a Wakey player next season.

it's not the standard reply it's the obvious reply. It's an obvious reply because it's true and as old Jack says, you can't handle the truth.

Wouldn't be a quota player Scottish heritage came to play for haven to get in Scotlands World Cup squad . Watch YouTube highlights of him quite impressive. Played for South Sydney and Newcastle knight's academy's

The truth is we are a business and probably a well run one I don’t know. The problem is we are in the entertainment sector and I will state it again the product we produce is faulty because the designer no longer knows what to do so the appeal to the customer drops so reducing the business revenue. It is like many brands in that it will have its loyal customers who are willing to overlook the shortcomings of the product. These are however not enough to see a profitable business so most will look to replace the designer rather than the parts which he puts together in the hope of producing a better and more saleable product.
I am afraid the truth is obvious to me but apparently not you. I will give you a quote “There are none so blind as those who will not see”

Fair enough but I still don't think we need a fullback/winger, our needs are greater elsewhere.

I don't think the attendance has reduced has it?

Which is why he would be a quota player. The Scottish heritage doesn’t matter. Look up the rules and get back to us.

Just been reading and yes it could be aload of tosh but apparently we are trying to sign langi from catalan.i like this guy alot but surley it would only be a replacment for billy unless we played him at 6.also id rather use overseas quota we have left on a prop

He’s none federation trained and can only have 7 I think so would count. Doesn’t matter what the passport says it’s where did he start playing rugby.

Yeah the Samisoni Langi Link makes no sense unless we are losing Tupou who has a year left on his contract. Doubt he’d leave without a decent pay off. We are paying big bucks for Tom Lineham as well so i’m very reliably told. Have we got a secret investor all of a sudden?

Again, signing players in positions we don't need, if true.

I admire you for coming out with your points at long last for reasons for your unwavering support for CC who has clearly displayed that he is NOT a good coach. I even agree with some of your points, PT .I personally have never said that it is purely down to him and him alone for the pitifully poor displays whilst under his tenure, but unfortunately the coach usually has to carry the can. My greatest fear is of an extension of his contract.

Quote ="Sacred Cow"Yeah the Samisoni Langi Link makes no sense unless we are losing Tupou who has a year left on his contract. Doubt he’d leave without a decent pay off. We are paying big bucks for Tom Lineham as well so i’m very reliably told. Have we got a secret investor all of a sudden?'" https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... s-21248088 'a growing, and impressive, recruitment drive' and it states that we have signed Hood (not Dallas!)

Quote ="Sacred Cow"Yeah the Samisoni Langi Link makes no sense unless we are losing Tupou who has a year left on his contract. Doubt he’d leave without a decent pay off. We are paying big bucks for Tom Lineham as well so i’m very reliably told. Have we got a secret investor all of a sudden?'" https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/ru ... s-21248088 'a growing, and impressive, recruitment drive' and it states that we have signed Hood (not Dallas!)

If true, expect a repeat of the last 3 seasons next season!

It'll be the one who was waiting in the wings (allegedly) for when Ted left.

The players he brought to the club didn’t get him the sack!

His record as Head Coach on the day he was removed from his post was played 7 lost 4 won 3 and they had just beaten Salford away from home.

He resisted some of the ridiculous signings that John Pearman made and in doing so fell out with Pearman who then undermined him willingly aided by John Harbin

I was there, argued with Pearman about it and called John Harbin out face to face over his actions! I also stood up at a supporters meeting and called out the whole BoD over it.

So let’s not rewrite those events just to make a point to another poster

I’d say wing is a position we do need. If the Lineham rumour is true then I think he’d be a very good signing for us.

TJ, Kaye, Kershaw, Tupou, they've just signed a lad from the U19's, how many more do we need?
Unless CC is planning on playing Lineham at prop, he's a player we don't need to be spending on.

Have you seen lineham play recently...2 games ago warrington rather play a prop on wing opposed to lineham

Personally would prefer players who come on board to look at our club as a step up in their development and not a final swan song .Lineham was a beast a few seasons ago but has gradually faded to the point that he is past his sell by date and is being put out to grass by the wires . Doesn’t seem to be a scramble for his signature and could imagine his face when told by his agent that we were the only bid on the table . We have better in our squad than old Tom and it would be a travesty if he replaced any of our incumbents who have shown their commitment to our cause. Yes he’s got the experience but has he got the hunger to come on board and propel us forwards ,I’d say no , but I'm willing to be proven wrong .

Who are our current rumours then?

Liam Hood
Tom Lineham
Samisoni Langi
Luke Gale

Any others?

With a nickname of Flying Pig it says something!

Lachlan walmsley
Adam milner