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| How come a coach can take over a decent squad and 5 years later have a squad with no structure, no attacking ideas from your 6,7, and 9 apart from 5 drives and a kick .A defence that are poor on there line.,and giving teams walk in trys on the wing.Then after the match the coach says after the match we are not good enough.Yet this is the squad he as built if you buy cheap you get cheep
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| We play Huddersfield next week by which time we should have the majority of his squad to select from. I wonder how many on here expect us to win or do we anticipate the usual performances just with different players. I also wonder with his constant criticism of others how many of the current team would relish the opportunity to join another club, just to get away from the constant negativity. I have not read or heard any other clubs constantly bemoan the lack of funds but for us it is the fallback position for all our woes. The obvious comparison is Salford and look what they have done.
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| CCs coaching ability has always been in question, does he actually coach the squad or let the players play off the cuff. MC will be unlikely to change the coach because he realises that he probably couldnt tell another coach that spending will be put back to what it was 3 years ago without a rumpus. The result is CCs coaching ability takes a back seat.
Trinity fans have become price conditioned without having all the facts to hand making MCs announcements palatable. The club s made fantastic strides over the last couple of years but all that will be lost without a re think and change in direction.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We play Huddersfield next week by which time we should have the majority of his squad to select from. I wonder how many on here expect us to win or do we anticipate the usual performances just with different players. I also wonder with his constant criticism of others how many of the current team would relish the opportunity to join another club, just to get away from the constant negativity. I have not read or heard any other clubs constantly bemoan the lack of funds but for us it is the fallback position for all our woes. The obvious comparison is Salford and look what they have done.'"
Huddersfield are about our level, Obviously Sezer apart. If we can't at least compete with our full squad out then I don't know where we go from there. The team is absolutely shot on confidence they look like they've been kidnapped and forced to go and play for Wakefield. Mentioning Salford which seems to be the benchmark for a low tier club like ourselves. We went there in March and won with a solid defensive performance with some good attack. What did Chester do? Meddle with that team. Again.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Having just read Chester’s interview he takes no blame it is all the players. The club is bringing forward a playing review to this morning which will include those still under and out of contract. It does not however look into the coaching. We have played various players over the season and a half and yet the performances appear to continue to stagnate. The only fixture during all these are Chester and his coaching set up therefore that would be a good place to start.
I think what we will get to keep him in place is various players being asked to leave and based on his recent recruitment strategy replayed by those in the thirties with an injury record.'"
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| Would you trust Me Chester and his backroom staff especially with are so called conditioner to build a team to compete in SL I would not.Think is signings this season as proved how far he is out of is depth.there was no need for panic buying .Just needed quality scrum half and hooker and we would have survived.
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| Quote ="alegend"Would you trust Me Chester and his backroom staff especially with are so called conditioner to build a team to compete in SL I would not.Think is signings this season as proved how far he is out of is depth.there was no need for panic buying .Just needed quality scrum half and hooker and we would have survived.'"
Survive what exactly???
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| Quote ="alegend"[uWould you trust Me [/uChester and his backroom staff especially with are so called conditioner to build a team to compete in SL I would not.Think is signings this season as proved how far he is out of is depth.there was no need for panic buying .Just needed quality scrum half and hooker and we would have survived.'"
I don’t know, what are your credentials?
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| Quote ="PopTart"Just like Woolf wasn't a rubbish coach last week when Sts weren't on it, I don't believe Chester is the problem.
If we change we need to go better with an experienced coach, not an assistant trying his hand.
Personally, I still believe we need a midfield general. It will change the team completely. Chester says he's searching for someone.
Ironically, just to add more fuel, I think we are 3 games away from the longest losing run in our history.'"
I have no doubt that CC is technically a good coach, he has proved that in the past despite some people conveniently forgetting that.
However he now seems totally unable to get his message across to the players unless you believe he actually wants than to play like that.
It’s sad but once the above happens the coach is a spent force and needs to go, fair or not.
I suppose if you stuck with CC he might eventually turn things around but how much damage will have been done by then.
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| Quote ="vastman"One of the best wingers in the world reduced to a battering ram.
I’m afraid I now agree with Mopsey, Chester doesn’t have a clue.
You could argue that some of the players don’t but Chesters paid to chuffing give them one.
Every ball slow, every run back into traffic, passes to nobody, lots of individual effort in the tackle but zero organisation.
Nothing just nothing that resemble RL.
There simply is no excuse anymore.
Time to go, for Chester'"
Vasty This simply cannot go on, I feel that we are in a downward spiral and sleepwalking in the abyss. The way I see it is we have no hope for the future unless there is a complete restructuring of the rugby side of things. We have drifted along for the last few years with imo not one player improving and the team going backwards. Everything needs looking at the pre season, the fitness levels, no excuse here we might not be the most talented but can be the strongest and fittest. Our style of play needs changing our structure our work effic, our determination, our defence, no stone should be left unturned. I don’t see Chester as the man to oversea this he’s had chance after chance to change things but hasn’t or just plain stubbornly he won’t he simply does not see and identify what we need.
Let’s take a look at the players, have we got bad players, have we players not trying or giving up, I wouldn’t say so but we are a complete mess all over the place.
Why when we have the lightest back line in senior, Walker, jowitt, lynn, tj, rocky expect them to run the ball from their own line and get battered, I don’t care if it’s the modern game if they can’t make ground get the forwards back behind the ball and clear the danger, the backs are game enough but what’s the point, the pack only play 20 mins each half hold your hands up and go your job. We can’t make enough ground we’ve only one kicker atm rocky and he’s been left with charging defences and 70 yard kicks.
The attack is so predictable and I take on board your thoughts on Tom but he won’t get any space unless the pack create him some, most of the breaks last year from rocky, bill or Tom we’re off the cuff opportunism and not created. We play with split half’s one left one right, we go one side or the other but it’s so easy and slow the defence just need to stand their ground.
Defensively we are simply awful and our line defence hasn’t improved in years.
These players are capable of so much more than this, ive seen it and we’ve all seen it but at the moment we’re a million miles off.
Chester just looks like a depressed man to me, his recent comments of accusing players of moving out of the way and not trying and playing for their jobs a week after he said they were great just smacks of someone not willing to be accountable for his actions, not once as he said I know what’s wrong il change this.
I notice the Sam Williams comments on Here il say this unless issues are sorted he won’t make the slightest bit of difference, as we simply can’t get any field position.
Recruitment as been terrible buying players like gigot, Atkins, brough and others who are no better than we have. We need some forwards some grafters who are going to get us moving, I like josh wood he’s a full commitment give it all but what do you do with him he offers nothing going forward and his passing is loopy and slow but he can bang.
I have no faith in the people at the top to make the correct decisions so it will continue, why I have no idea
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| Never seen pathetic performance like tonight a set of forwardas absoloughtly hammered by saints a threequaterlind made to look useless
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| Quote ="try scorer"Never seen pathetic performance like tonight a set of forwardas absoloughtly hammered by saints a threequaterlind made to look useless'" our coach is more interested in getting 30 odd year old props passing round the back instead of charging it up like they have all their lives
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| I think Carter will probably give Chester the first 6 or 7 games of next season and if we're still getting beat every week he'll be gone. I can understand the reluctance to sack him in the current climate with what's gone on and the fact there is no relegation but I've got to say I'm not confident we will have the personnel in the playing staff or the coaching to turn it around so drastically in a pre-season. I can but hope. Not sure what the market for players will be like either considering the economic enviornment. Be interesting to see what happens now until January.
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| What will keep happening, we will keep losing, Chester will blame everyone or everything but himself, the club will blame the supporters for not giving Chester a big enough budget to show his true coaching abilities and then if relegated at the end of next season both will leave and we will continue to support whatever they leave behind.
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I think Carter will probably give Chester the first 6 or 7 games of next season and if we're still getting beat every week he'll be gone. I can understand the reluctance to sack him in the current climate with what's gone on and the fact there is no relegation but I've got to say I'm not confident we will have the personnel in the playing staff or the coaching to turn it around so drastically in a pre-season. I can but hope. Not sure what the market for players will be like either considering the economic enviornment. Be interesting to see what happens now until January.'"
Which is why everybody’s worried
If we go 7,8,9 games next season and win 2 (which would be a huge improvement) we’ll be in major trouble!
Are we expecting a quality coach to be available mid season, even if there were are we expecting a repeat John Kears Lazarus act, are we also expecting the players that we will need to rebuild the team to be available during the season?
We should be acting now, or 3 months ago!
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| Adam think 6 or 7 games next season will be to late. By that time the cash will be spent and any new coach will have to use a squad bought by the present set up
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| Quote ="Adam_Harrison9"I think Carter will probably give Chester the first 6 or 7 games of next season and if we're still getting beat every week he'll be gone. I can understand the reluctance to sack him in the current climate with what's gone on and the fact there is no relegation but I've got to say I'm not confident we will have the personnel in the playing staff or the coaching to turn it around so drastically in a pre-season. I can but hope. Not sure what the market for players will be like either considering the economic enviornment. Be interesting to see what happens now until January.'"
Sorry Adam, I feel leaving it into next year it could stagnate further and only make matters worse.
We know Chester’s recent recruitment has left a lot to be desired, we could end up signing several players, then change coach, only for an incoming coach, not to like what he has to work with, and even if we did bring good players in, their skill and fitness levels may end up getting coached out of them.
We need to change things, and fast. Hasn’t he already offered his resignation on more than one occasion.
If I was MC right now, I’d be mulling over possible replacements than practicing his golf swing.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He hasn't coached them to be bad.
Sts were too fast in all areas and we had two fullbacks who want to be half backs playing.
There were some poor performers but we just gave ourselves too much to do.'"
Which part of the job would you say Chester is doing correctly pop tart. Overseeing the fitness of the team, preparing the team for a game, winning games, coaching a competitive team, attacking structure, a game plan, defensive structure, defending our own line, motivating the team, new ideas, recruitment, or maybe none of them, maybe knifing the players in the back and accusing them of moving out of the way or not trying or attitude problems. 5 out of 33 which part of the job is he doing right
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| A new coach needs the preseason, otherwise it's a bit much hoping for a massive change in fortunes 6-7 games in, for a club like ours anyway.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What will keep happening, we will keep losing, Chester will blame everyone or everything but himself,=#FF0000 the club will blame the supporters for not giving Chester a big enough budget to show his true coaching abilities and then if relegated at the end of next season both will leave and we will continue to support whatever they leave behind.'"
You are completely out to lunch.
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| Better than having your head buried in the sand believing everything is going to be alright and Chester will suddenly turn things around after 5 wins out of 33 games. We survived last season by winning our last game against the team that was relegated and this because there is no relegation.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"You are completely out to lunch.
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| My own personal opinion is Chester’s laid back approach to his team has come back to bite him ,it’s gone too far and it’s out of control.I Remember him being ask about fifita and he remarked that he does his own thing, and so now we have our biggest earner rocking up and looking like he’d rather be anywhere else but on the field.When Brian Smith was here he cracked the whip ,the boys didn’t like it ,carter sided with them ,end of smith .we've reaped what we’ve sown I’m afraid and ended up with a bunch of laid back easy beats .we've been a holiday club for far too long and most of the players have bought into it ,and the only way to get out of it is through hard work ,and sorry to say but there are some at the club that don’t have that in them ,back room staff included.No team can win a game with one hand tied behind their backs but we are expected to do that on a regular basis .League tables don’t lie ,we are rock bottom for a reason ,we don’t have the team to sweat blood and tears or put the effort in for this great club,but I’ll, be expected To renew my season ticket to help the club out .I don’t mind putting my money in so long as they players don’t mind doing their bit ,which is going out and giving their all for 80 mins ,it’s not too much to ask for is it?
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