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| Come on, Wotsup. Do you honestly think that Labour would have carried out all those things that were in the manifesto? If you did you must be very naive. Even more so if you think Johnson will carry out all this 20,000 police and 40 hospitals rubbish. When did any party carry out these pledges? But if Labour had carried out only half of the promises made it will be infinitely more than we're going to get.
When Johnson and the other Chuckle Brother across the pond get their scheming heads together watch out. You'll wish Kim Jon Un was our leader.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"They used to say people in Wakefield were so stupid that if you painted a Donkey red they would vote for it, do you find that theory acceptable?
Why is it that when things don't go peoples way they claim the other lot didn't read the manifesto properly because one has to assume they are somehow daft. To call that attitude condescending is an understatement, yes mate in the last two never-ending years we've all totally not understood Brexit ect, I mean it's not like anybody's been talking about it is it
Take it on the chin, one side won one side lost and the majority gets what it wants, its called democracy. You can disagree all you like and hell you may be right as regards policy but don't you dare suggest people who voted Tory are stupid, the vast majority knew exactly what they were doing and did so with the best of intentions!'"
If you think I called or inferred anyone was stupid in my comments then you must be stupid! Where did I say that? Get your facts right before you attack me for making a comment, which I think is quite reasonable, judging by the number of people I know, who have voted Tory because of Brexit . When I have asked them about other Tory policies they haven't got a clue! Perhaps you're one of them and I touched a nerve?
I have nothing to take on the chin. I accept democracy.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Come on, Wotsup. Do you honestly think that Labour would have carried out all those things that were in the manifesto? If you did you must be very naive. Even more so if you think Johnson will carry out all this 20,000 police and 40 hospitals rubbish. When did any party carry out these pledges? But if Labour had carried out only half of the promises made it will be infinitely more than we're going to get.
When Johnson and the other Chuckle Brother across the pond get their scheming heads together watch out. You'll wish Kim Jon Un was our leader.'"
I obviously wasn't naive because I didn't vote for labour's wishlist as they were either lies or would have bankrupted the country. A lose lose situation
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"I obviously wasn't naive because I didn't vote for labour's wishlist as they were either lies or would have bankrupted the country. A lose lose situation'"
Sorry, but the wishlist you DID vote for will be a pure fairytale as well. I doubt very much that we'll be out of the EU on January 31st also.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Sorry, but the wishlist you DID vote for will be a pure fairytale as well. I doubt very much that we'll be out of the EU on January 31st also.'"
We shall see. At least Corbyn and his student union mates are nowhere near power and anyone with common sense is relieved about that
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| Cleaned up Durham's comments.
Some will have been deleted because you quoted unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Kettykat"have you had a walk around wakefield town centre, absolute disgrace how it’s been left to go to rack n ruin.Been a labour man all my mining days but I’ve struggle to see what they have brought to wakefield lately .Myself I think this is the backlash from Mary creigh going against the people of wakefield in the brexit vote in parliament.Thats twice they’ve been beat now who’s up for a third vote on brexit .'"
You do realise that Wakefield is in the top 5 for cuts from this tory government, which has led to it going to rack n ruin. And what do Wakefield people do, vote tory for even more cuts to our city’s funding, you couldn’t make it up
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| When over 130,000 of the most vulnerable in our society have been killed as a direct result of tory policies, forgive me for not celebrating a tory win. How many more of our most vulnerable people will die over this next term? But, I don’t like this bloke cos the media slate him, or get brexit done. Pales into a pretty weak argument when people are literally dying.
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| Quote ="TrinityDave"You do realise that Wakefield is in the top 5 for cuts from this tory government, which has led to it going to rack n ruin. And what do Wakefield people do, vote tory for even more cuts to our city’s funding, you couldn’t make it up
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| Quote ="PopTart"Cleaned up Durham's comments.
Some will have been deleted because you quoted unfortunately.
This is very much off topic but I'll keep it on while it stays sensible.'" what is this forum coming to when a mod has to moderate another mod
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| Some very bitter people on here innit, oh for the good old days when folk talked rugby
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| One thing I will add here, which reading back, I don't recall anyone has mentioned yet, is the money we find into the EU. I believe in 2018, it was something like 16 billion GBP.
If and when we leave, we wont be doing this.
Maybe, that money were saving will be put to good use, like pumping more into the NHS, and putting more into the police force.
As for the homeless people, maybe some of these buildings,that are derelict, in all towns and cities could they maybe transformed into hostels for the homeless. Just a thought. There is also the argument about those who are genuinely homeless, such as the lady in Wakefield who has been recently found out.
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| Quote ="TrinityDave"You do realise that Wakefield is in the top 5 for cuts from this tory government, which has led to it going to rack n ruin. And what do Wakefield people do, vote tory for even more cuts to our city’s funding, you couldn’t make it up
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I didn't realise that there was a league table for 'cuts' in budgets where can I see this I'm keen to see the top four but maybe the low end of the table would be the more interesting read.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Some very bitter people on here innit, oh for the good old days when folk talked rugby
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I’m dismayed at what’s happened to this country over the last few years. The inability to accept defeat is sickening. It started with the Scottish referendum and has got worse since.
A majority is a majority that’s how democracy works, it’s simple.
People seem to want their own mini democracy in which their candidate is the only winner, pathetic.
So what do we end up with. A minority of people who think it’s more important to sabotage all things Boris even if it makes things far worse.
The result is the result and it’s a resounding one. We are leaving Europe, we have five years of Tory rule. You can fight it like some child or get on with it and make the best of it. In five years time you’ll get another chance, that’s how it works. People in this country have become utterly self righteous and need to grow up.
I didn’t vote Tory for the record.
Up the Trin
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| I blame the bad loser attitude on taking competition away from kids.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I’m dismayed at what’s happened to this country over the last few years. The inability to accept defeat is sickening. It started with the Scottish referendum and has got worse since.
A majority is a majority that’s how democracy works, it’s simple.
People seem to want their own mini democracy in which their candidate is the only winner, pathetic.
So what do we end up with. A minority of people who think it’s more important to sabotage all things Boris even if it makes things far worse.
The result is the result and it’s a resounding one. We are leaving Europe, we have five years of Tory rule. You can fight it like some child or get on with it and make the best of it. In five years time you’ll get another chance, that’s how it works. People in this country have become utterly self righteous and need to grow up.
I didn’t vote Tory for the record.
Up the Trin'"
A well reasoned post, it's a pity others can't accept the will of the majority, it's done now and it's time to move on otherwise the next 5 years will just make them bitter and resentful.
I did not vote and for the record have never done, so I have no regrets when I get let down and disappointed with false promises, and as for most politicians that old saying you can always tell when they're lying when their lips move comes into my thoughts when you see them spouting their rhetoric.
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| Quote ="inside man"I blame the bad loser attitude on taking competition away from kids.'"
Not sure if you're joking but you're right as it happens.
The ridiculously liberal education system of the past 40 years, yes even in Thatcher's day has given people a monstrous sense of entitlement.
Everyone should have a dream and aim for that dream and settle for nothing less, utter nonsense, in the real world there are simply not enough 'dream' lives to go around. All is possible if you just believe, see above. Don't let anyone tell you no, a self evidently stupid assertion, as they will because they can and sometimes they can hurt you really bad if you do. All is possible with effort, no it's not, sadly you also need so much more to be a real success like actual talent, common sense and a nice dollop of luck....and so on.
We need to start educating people for life again not for a Disney fantasy epic. You want a gender realignment you have it when your 18 and when you might just know what you really think, just an example I could give dozens more.
One day if we are not careful the flawed wonders of Western civilisation and democracy will crumble without people even noticing. What they will notice is what replaces it and by then it will be too late. We need to toughen up, not become hard or mean but just realistic,
A bit deep I know, up the Trin
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Not sure if you're joking but you're right as it happens.
The ridiculously liberal education system of the past 40 years, yes even in Thatcher's day has given people a monstrous sense of entitlement.
Everyone should have a dream and aim for that dream and settle for nothing less, utter nonsense, in the real world there are simply not enough 'dream' lives to go around. All is possible if you just believe, see above. Don't let anyone tell you no, a self evidently stupid assertion, as they will because they can and sometimes they can hurt you really bad if you do. All is possible with effort, no it's not, sadly you also need so much more to be a real success like actual talent, common sense and a nice dollop of luck....and so on.
We need to start educating people for life again not for a Disney fantasy epic. You want a gender realignment you have it when your 18 and when you might just know what you really think, just an example I could give dozens more.
One day if we are not careful the flawed wonders of Western civilisation and democracy will crumble without people even noticing. What they will notice is what replaces it and by then it will be too late. We need to toughen up, not become hard or mean but just realistic,
A bit deep I know, up the Trin
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I’m dismayed at what’s happened to this country over the last few years. The inability to accept defeat is sickening. It started with the Scottish referendum and has got worse since.
A majority is a majority that’s how democracy works, it’s simple.
People seem to want their own mini democracy in which their candidate is the only winner, pathetic.
So what do we end up with. A minority of people who think it’s more important to sabotage all things Boris even if it makes things far worse.
The result is the result and it’s a resounding one. We are leaving Europe, we have five years of Tory rule. You can fight it like some child or get on with it and make the best of it. In five years time you’ll get another chance, that’s how it works. People in this country have become utterly self righteous and need to grow up.
I didn’t vote Tory for the record.
Up the Trin'"
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"I’m dismayed at what’s happened to this country over the last few years. The inability to accept defeat is sickening. It started with the Scottish referendum and has got worse since.
A majority is a majority that’s how democracy works, it’s simple.
People seem to want their own mini democracy in which their candidate is the only winner, pathetic.
So what do we end up with. A minority of people who think it’s more important to sabotage all things Boris even if it makes things far worse.
The result is the result and it’s a resounding one. We are leaving Europe, we have five years of Tory rule. You can fight it like some child or get on with it and make the best of it. In five years time you’ll get another chance, that’s how it works. People in this country have become utterly self righteous and need to grow up.
I didn’t vote Tory for the record.
Up the Trin'" I only hope they allow them now to get on with governing the country, ever since bojo got in it was just one thing after another blocking any move to govern which led to the re-election and the country spoke again,
I wish we'd get someone in that was strong enough to bring back the death penalty so we could save money on ridding some of the scum in this country that that thinks its ok the murder people
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| Quote ="snowie"I only hope they allow them now to get on with governing the country, ever since bojo got in it was just one thing after another blocking any move to govern which led to the re-election and the country spoke again,
I wish we'd get someone in that was strong enough to bring back the death penalty so we could save money on ridding some of the scum in this country that that thinks its ok the murder people'"
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"I agree with him BLM, for certain crimes, why should us, the tax payer, pay to keep them.'"
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Not sure if you're joking but you're right as it happens.
The ridiculously liberal education system of the past 40 years, yes even in Thatcher's day has given people a monstrous sense of entitlement.
Everyone should have a dream and aim for that dream and settle for nothing less, utter nonsense, in the real world there are simply not enough 'dream' lives to go around. All is possible if you just believe, see above. Don't let anyone tell you no, a self evidently stupid assertion, as they will because they can and sometimes they can hurt you really bad if you do. All is possible with effort, no it's not, sadly you also need so much more to be a real success like actual talent, common sense and a nice dollop of luck....and so on.
We need to start educating people for life again not for a Disney fantasy epic. You want a gender realignment you have it when your 18 and when you might just know what you really think, just an example I could give dozens more.
One day if we are not careful the flawed wonders of Western civilisation and democracy will crumble without people even noticing. What they will notice is what replaces it and by then it will be too late. We need to toughen up, not become hard or mean but just realistic,
A bit deep I know, up the Trin
'" No joke from me mate, I watched my kids at sports day many years ago and watched one of her friends throw a right tantrum because she got beat, worse than that her dad I siting that the race be re run because his daughter wasn't ready. One of the most embarressing g things I have witnessed.
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| Brexiters want to take the country back to the 50s and now some on here want to bring back hanging. I despair. And how anybody in their right mind can think for one millisecond that the Tories in general and Johnson in particular give even one tiny fraction of a flying f.. K about places such as Blyth Valley, Workington, Dewsbury and Wakefield is beyond me. For just one example of their mindset look at how disabled and seriously ill people have been forced to work and/or denied benefits. Being callous and uncaring of the vulnerable, sick, less able and plain unlucky is hard wired in to Tory DNA. I guarantee that all those people who think they've been ignored and left behind are going to be sorely disappointed. Sorry.
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