I think I misunderstood your post! I thought you meant we held them out on our try line often, but you meant our defensive line in general? On that I would agree, but they made so many errors, they didn't build any pressure, they must have only completed at around 60% maybe, but still won comfortably........so it doesn't say a lot for us does it?! Even Chester said we had enough ball to win 2 games. I think we need to improve quite a bit to win on Sunday, but we will see......

I do agree.
I like to think we had something to do with the lost ball by actually being involved in the tackle or at least close enough to scare them in some way but yes many times it was down to Hull. I said to my brother that the team that wins would be the one who stops making errors first. When they had their little spell of tries I turned and said, yep, it's Hull.

All I'm saying really is that we have improved, but not to the level we need to yet. The breakaway try with the 35 missed tackles tells us that.

And 34 of those missed tackles all came during that Ratu Naulago 80 yarder!

That's the breakaway try I was meaning.

You have to attempt a tackle to miss it, I think you give our players far to much credit.

It's that lack of pride they seem to have in themselves that sums us up at the moment and they need to rediscover it ASAP.

Tony Smith actually picked the best 17 fit players he had available

The Leeds result was good for us, as it means they have something to play for against London in the next game. Silver lining and all that, because that is my main worry about Sunday if we lose (and if Leeds had won last night), that London would have two games against teams just cruising to their holidays.

And miraculously your 5 best players were injured for just the 1 week ? You really are very naive if you believe that. Don`t blame him one bit, it is the smart thing to do IMO.

I suppose you could look at it that way, but we have been relying on other teams results for far too long to keep us where we are now.
The problem is, we are in a deep run of very poor results and we have only 4 matches to save our skin.
Unless there is a big upturn in form this weekend i have a feeling that it is going down to the last game of the season, against London at Belle Vue.
As we all know, London overturned the odds last season to beat a team in their last match,Toronto Wolfpack, on their own soil who were red hot favourites to come up to SL.
Let's just hope this weekend gets us that win that will, i think, get us over the line and keep our SL status.

So you are calling Tony Smith a liar then?

I don’t think he’s calling him a liar..... Tony Smith was just being economical with the Truth.

All coaches do it.

Nothing to get your knickers in a twist about.

"We’ve got no regulation over that anymore and whilst I’d be tempted to do it myself at certain stages… last week I probably didn’t put out the best team on paper but I certainly put out the best team that could physically cope"

That is what the man said. I don't think he was being economical with the truth. Your values on the other hand seem somewhat blurred.

Lol.

#WhiteKnight

That still does mean though that they still have to win a game before they come to Belle Vue.
Leeds losing last night was important to us in that respect.
I'm just interested in Wakefield Trinity being in SL next season - I dont care in which way that is achieved.

Honestly think London will beat Cats this weekend, they have done it once before this season in Perpignan and they are weaker this time around.

Cant see it myself. They still have a chance of the top 5.

If London lose in France tomorrow then last nights results is more or less immaterial, with the points difference Leeds will be effectively 5 points clear of London with just 3 games to play. Given two of those London games are against us and Hull KR then again with the points difference one of those will be below them.

And if London win in France we are probably done for anyway!

I think the script has already been written. It's coming down to that last game at home to London, and I think it may be us, not London, who need to win it to stay up on points difference. Sky will already be salivating at the prospect.

Thats me just intrested in us staying up if we dont win another game but london only bt us and we stay up on points diff so be it.but if that was to happen would we make and changes

I think they'll win at least one from their next three, maybe even two.

We simply have to beat Hull KR on Sunday, otherwise it's a last day survival job.

20pts is safe

I think Leeds, Hudds & HKR have or will all hit that figure before the last weekend, I can see London picking up a win and joining us on 18pts meaning it’ll all rest on the Trinity v London fixture.

If London don’t hit 18pts before they play us we’ll be safe win/lose in the last game because despite our terrible points difference theirs is worse.

My fear is that London play with great energy which could be our undoing and they have recent experience of a big winner takes all match.

Agreed, thought the same for ages. Saints at the top and almost a foregone conclusion so we’ll make the relegation down to the last game.

We wont win

I'm not expecting us to. Hull KR could easily put 40 on us.