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| To be fair to Agar, he led us into the top 8 in his first season. Not bad, and even more so when it was an entirely new squad just about, all of which bar maybe one or two were brought in before he was.
In his second season, with about 5 games to go, they were there, or there abouts, but, with the debts, some of our players were sold off immediately. I think we finished the season with Cockayne and Liam Kay in the halves.
He started following season the season with a cap spend of something like £1.2m I think I read, and started off ok. For me the wheels fell of when Sammut came in.
For me the 2015 debacle was down to James Webster, pretty much saying by about round 4-5 were looking at middle 8s and MPG. Hardly putting confidence in your squad. He should have walked as soon as he said it for me
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| Quote ="homme vaste"I have listened to this and it`s a good interview, but I would not take everything he says as gospel - What he says is the opposite to what I have heard from some of the players he has played under, from what I here John did not exactly help his case by turning up with the wrong attitude and concentrating more on his next night out with the lads but he fails to mention that - For me personally I put it down to sour grapes from an ex employer but who knows.'"
Exactly what I heard.
Two sides to every story and from what I heard Agar was right to not play him.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"To be fair to Agar, he led us into the top 8 in his first season. Not bad, and even more so when it was an entirely new squad just about, all of which bar maybe one or two were brought in before he was.
In his second season, with about 5 games to go, they were there, or there abouts, but, with the debts, some of our players were sold off immediately. I think we finished the season with Cockayne and Liam Kay in the halves.
He started following season the season with a cap spend of something like £1.2m I think I read, and started off ok. For me the wheels fell of when Sammut came in.
For me the 2015 debacle was down to James Webster, pretty much saying by about round 4-5 were looking at middle 8s and MPG. Hardly putting confidence in your squad. He should have walked as soon as he said it for me'"
We only made the eigjt because Bradford were deducted points. We then crashed out of the play offs straight away.
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| And the 7 or 8 wittns on the spin we had were nothing to do with it.
Using that philosophy Wilzay, you could say that we only got into the 8 in 2016, due to Salfords points deduction
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| Quote ="Willzay"We only made the eigjt because Bradford were deducted points. We then crashed out of the play offs straight away.'"
When you say crashed out, do you mean we're beaten by the eventual winners when we were actually in the game and had chances to take the lead but Leeds just pulled away at the end when we were chasing the game?
Oh and no one else put that many points on Leeds through those playoffs either.
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| If Washbrook would have passed......
Anyway GH has just released a vote of confidence statement on Sinfield....
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| They never should have sacked McDermott never mind furner
It's all a bit odd and slap dash from Leeds
If they get relegated I'd like us to sign merrin lol
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| Quote ="musson"They never should have sacked McDermott never mind furner
It's all a bit odd and slap dash from Leeds
If they get relegated I'd like us to sign merrin lol'"
Merrin are you kidding, he must be the most overrated Aussie prop since Hickey, I personally would stay well clear.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Merrin
are you kidding, he must be the most overrated Aussie prop since Hickey, I personally would stay well clear.'"
His skills are fine. His attitude and especially his mouthy attitude is well below par.
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| JD has just thrown is name into the ring for the leeds job over here this morning
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| Quote ="charlie"If Washbrook would have passed......
Anyway GH has just released a vote of confidence statement on Sinfield....'"
Though he dropped the pass?
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| Quote ="BOJ042"JD has just thrown is name into the ring for the leeds job over here this morning'"
So has Wane.
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| It will be awful if JD gets the job.
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| I think JD has said he would come back to UK for the right job. That's not quite Leeds at the moment.
He's being groomed to take over from Bennett. I think I'd prefer to stay there.
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"Though he dropped the pass?'"
Possibly, I can't really remember and I don't want to watch it back. I have it in my head that he threw a dummy and was tackled.
Could be wrong.
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| Quote ="charlie"Possibly, I can't really remember and I don't want to watch it back. I have it in my head that he threw a dummy and was tackled.
Could be wrong.'"
You might be right, he certainly lost the ball at some point.
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| Didn't he pass inside to Kyle Wood who was unable to take it. Though I could be wrong . The grey cells are not what they were.
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| Quote ="poplar cats alive"Didn't he pass inside to Kyle Wood who was unable to take it. Though I could be wrong . The grey cells are not what they were.'"
Wasn’t it to Ben Cockayne? Or vice versa? Like you the finer details escape me.
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I found this in a match report:
"With 10 minutes left, Cockayne spilled Danny Washbrook's loose pass just when he looked set to go in under the posts"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/19563616
Edit: Found the game on Trinity's youtube page, its a shocking pass from Washbrook. Search for Leeds vs Wakefield Wildcats 2012 play off and skip to 7 minutes 50 seconds
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I found this in a match report:
"With 10 minutes left, Cockayne spilled Danny Washbrook's loose pass just when he looked set to go in under the posts"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/19563616
Edit: Found the game on Trinity's youtube page, its a shocking pass from Washbrook. Search for Leeds vs Wakefield Wildcats 2012 play off and skip to 7 minutes 50 seconds
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"To be fair to Agar, he led us into the top 8 in his first season. Not bad, and even more so when it was an entirely new squad just about, all of which bar maybe one or two were brought in before he was.
In his second season, with about 5 games to go, they were there, or there abouts, but, with the debts, some of our players were sold off immediately. I think we finished the season with Cockayne and Liam Kay in the halves.
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With regard to Agar I think he's actually better suited to Sinfields role & could sort out the mess they are currently in. Let's hope they leave him where he is!!
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