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| Quote ="wakeyrule"After 10-15 minutes he becomes a bit leaden footed in defence.'"
Well he'll have to get better, we need 20 mins a half not 10 imho, thats what we pay him for, Dave can do it.
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| Just seen that the game is on Sky so we have the VR to protect us from Kendall a bit.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Just seen that the game is on Sky so we have the VR to protect us from Kendall a bit.'"
Not necessarily, he didn’t use the VR for the alleged obstruction by Hampshire in the Catalan game. VR only useful when called upon.
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| Why do we always default to having a ref that's against us? It's been Child for a number of years, and now we seem to have decided that Kendall is a clear and present danger - it's a crackers, chip on the shoulder attitude.
In the end, refs are human and will always be prone to mistakes, just like players. But the single biggest factor in avoiding being on the wrong side of the ref is to not give away stupid penalties, and to play at the edge - but not over it.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Why do we always default to having a ref that's against us? .'"
For the 3rd time! IMHO. Kendall isn't against anyone, let alone us, he is just unpredictable and inconsistent. The VR gives us some protection (TJ's try) but only if he uses it (RH's obstruction not).
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| Quote ="bren2k"Why do we always default to having a ref that's against us? It's been Child for a number of years, and now we seem to have decided that Kendall is a clear and present danger - it's a crackers, chip on the shoulder attitude.
In the end, refs are human and will always be prone to mistakes, just like players. But the single biggest factor in avoiding being on the wrong side of the ref is to not give away stupid penalties, and to play at the edge - but not over it.'"
Indeed.
We will probably lose this game for the far more likely reason that we don't turn up in the right frame of mind.
Since the Chester take over we have played some great RL and had some freak performances, most notably against Wigan and Hull.
What we have not done yet is master the art of the 'big game'. Yes we have done pretty well in the last two play offs but we still lost. The CCup remains an utter embarrassment despite making a semi final.
Most notable has been our inability to beat or beat when we should our two great rivals, nothing from Cas since 2015, nearly half a decade ago!!! Its been patchy against Leeds though much better than Cas - but we failed miserably in Fifita's first home game a few years back which was one a lot of undecided fans turned out for, another well aimed shot in the foot.
A lot will be watching this game with interest and its an ideal one to make a mark in - to do so we need to play to our absolute best, that imho will be good enough despite what Kendall does or doesn't do. Leeds are a decent team with some good players but they are far more for the taking than they were in their pomp a few years back - but they sure as hell won't roll over for us, nobody does.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Why do we always default to having a ref that's against us? It's been Child for a number of years, and now we seem to have decided that Kendall is a clear and present danger - it's a crackers, chip on the shoulder attitude.
In the end, refs are human and will always be prone to mistakes, just like players. But the single biggest factor in avoiding being on the wrong side of the ref is to not give away stupid penalties, and to play at the edge - but not over it.'"
Absolutely. Sadly this is the case right from grass roots junior games right through to the top. Seems a strange trait almost unique to our sport from what I can see. I bet that any given game were fans moan about the referee, at least 50% of the players make as many or more mistakes and they have much more effect on the outcoume of the game.
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| Quote ="vastman"Indeed.
We will probably lose this game for the far more likely reason that we don't turn up in the right frame of mind.
Since the Chester take over we have played some great RL and had some freak performances, most notably against Wigan and Hull.
What we have not done yet is master the art of the 'big game'. Yes we have done pretty well in the last two play offs but we still lost. The CCup remains an utter embarrassment despite making a semi final.
Most notable has been our inability to beat or beat when we should our two great rivals, nothing from Cas since 2015, nearly half a decade ago!!! Its been patchy against Leeds though much better than Cas - but we failed miserably in Fifita's first home game a few years back which was one a lot of undecided fans turned out for, another well aimed shot in the foot.
A lot will be watching this game with interest and its an ideal one to make a mark in - to do so we need to play to our absolute best, that imho will be good enough despite what Kendall does or doesn't do. Leeds are a decent team with some good players but they are far more for the taking than they were in their pomp a few years back - but they sure as hell won't roll over for us, nobody does.
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Exactly.
It's not the ref that will miss tackles, pass the ball to the invisible man knock the ball on etc, etc.
If we control these aspects of our game, we almost dont need a ref.
Mind you, the south stand will be begging as usual
Definitely winnable but, we need to be on top our game and sod the ref.
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| Second all those posts.
We are in control of winning. Let's just support the team and forget about the ref.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"So what is the point in touch judges and the in goal who are both stood within a metre of that try looking from different angles? Fair enough it was on TV so he had the luxury of a video referee there just to make sure but he handed it up as a no try? That indicates had it been a non TV game a perfectly good try would have been chalked off because 3 officials cannot come up with the correct decision between them.'"
The point is mate the "try-no try" screen has a sponsor. That screen has to be shown for a certain amount of air time each game. Check it out next time, it becomes obvious.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"The point is mate the "try-no try" screen has a sponsor. That screen has to be shown for a certain amount of air time each game. Check it out next time, it becomes obvious.'"
LOL. As conspiracy theories go, that is a good one.
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| Quote ="PopTart"LOL. As conspiracy theories go, that is a good one.'"
Tbf that not unreasonable - why not, it can’t cause any harm other than confirm a decision. I don’t know if it’s true but it’s probably an unwritten agreement and not really a lot to ask, Ive heard far worse.
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| Quote ="PopTart"LOL. As conspiracy theories go, that is a good one.'"
Perhaps, but watching this weeks episode of fourty 20, Mark Wilson said exactly the same thing. His opinion was, the roulette wheel advertisers, are allocated a certain amount of viewing time, and partly the reason the VR takes an age for the decision.
Just his opinion of course.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"The point is mate the "try-no try" screen has a sponsor. That screen has to be shown for a certain amount of air time each game. Check it out next time, it becomes obvious.'"
This was discussed on the 40/20 podcast on Monday
Mark Wilson said he had a very good source that they do delay decisions so the sponsor can be shown longer
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| Quote ="musson"This was discussed on the 40/20 podcast on Monday
Mark Wilson said he had a very good source that they do delay decisions so the sponsor can be shown longer'"
Is this the start of the sport going the way of the NFL
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| Quote ="Willzay"Is this the start of the sport going the way of the NFL'"
We can only dream.
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| Presumably all monies go to Sky?
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| Tonight's 17..
1. Hampshire
2. TJ
3. Tupou
4. Lyne
5. BJB
6. Miller (c)
7. Brough
8. Fifita
9. Wood
22. King
19. Batchelor
11. Ashurst
16. Arona
SUBS
14. Horo
15. Kopczak
20. Hirst
24. Pauli
Come on lads!!
Up the Trin.
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| Good 1st half.
Been by far the better team since we went 4-0 down!
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| Good first half performance.
Let's hope we don't come out chasing a game in which we're 12 points in front.
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| Quote ="vastman"Tbf that not unreasonable - why not, it can’t cause any harm other than confirm a decision. I don’t know if it’s true but it’s probably an unwritten agreement and not really a lot to ask, Ive heard far worse.'"
Come on. It's a ridiculous idea even if the RFL were clever enough to do it.
On another thread we are complaining that Kendall cheated us by not going to the screen.
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| We can win this game as long as we keep our discipline. Bit flakey on the sliding defense.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Good first half performance.
Let's hope we don't come out chasing a game in which we're 12 points in front.'"
we havent.
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| Absolute quality performance.
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| What a result!!!
Didn't go to match tonight and daren't follow it on this forum. I had a horrible feeling that we were going to get a walloping.
Three more for TJ eh? who can argue against the fact that he must be the best finisher of the modern era.
Martin Offiah?? Who's he???
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