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| It might be pure coincidence and I’m not as clued up on twitter as others but there’s a company called stadium solutions limited. If I’m not mistaken they did the new Salford city ground. They’re being followed by manni but also follow the ST and the club itself. There might be nothing in it and I don’t know how long each have been following but they do some decent little stands etc
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| Mobile rocket twitter also reporting big things coming soon. Probably an extended sponsorship deal rather than new stadium but we live in hope.
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| hi everybody and this is my first post.
after reading this topic from the start it seems there may be a possible breakthrough re- the stadium upgrade/new stadium.i will take this with a pinch of salt until something definite is confirmed, as will most people on here I should imagine.
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| Sorry,last post sent too soon.(explains why I don't normally post)
When I got to the last 2or3 pages I started wondering if some people had taken leave of their senses! Talk of ground sharing when we are possibly near to a breakthrough and the Cas scheme tottering on the brink is madness as far as I am concerned.If both schemes come to nothing we may eventually have to bite the bullet and consider it, but certainly not at this moment in time.
Harking back to possible ways of funding our plans, where I think it was mentioned by someone as possibly us paying off the loan by using the ground rental money,shouldn't it be paid by Yorkcourt.
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| Quote ="madkeentrin"Sorry,last post sent too soon.(explains why I don't normally post)
When I got to the last 2or3 pages I started wondering if some people had taken leave of their senses! Talk of ground sharing when we are possibly near to a breakthrough and the Cas scheme tottering on the brink is madness as far as I am concerned.If both schemes come to nothing we may eventually have to bite the bullet and consider it, but certainly not at this moment in time.
Harking back to possible ways of funding our plans, where I think it was mentioned by someone as possibly us paying off the loan by using the ground rental money,shouldn't it be paid by Yorkcourt.'"
Welcome old boy, we don't really know what is going on behind closed doors and what the conditions of any offer on the table is (if there is any legs in the rumour) if at this point the council was to front the initial cost of the build as has been suggested and the condition was that the ground was for use for both clubs I think we would be silly to turn that down at this stage but that's just my opinion. Of course I would rather we did not have to share our ground.
Another point Newmarket and all the other avenues the council have gone down are community stadium builds for the Wakefield district we are talking about and always has been, Therefore there would be nothing concrete in the whole situation to say that Cas could not also come on board as a joint tenant, I imagine if the council was to front the cost of a redeveloped belle vue and also buy the plot itself then that would be no different.
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| I’ve no idea where these latest rumours have come from, mischief makers possibly, but didn’t MC suggest to the council a while since that WMDC took out a loan for a new ground, we paid the interest whilst WMDC chased Yorkcourt for the £15M?
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| Quote ="JINJER"I’ve no idea where these latest rumours have come from, mischief makers possibly, but didn’t MC suggest to the council a while since that WMDC took out a loan for a new ground, we paid the interest whilst WMDC chased Yorkcourt for the £15M?'"
Yes I remember that, but nothing came of it then and nothing's changed - has it?
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| Quote ="JINJER"I’ve no idea where these latest rumours have come from, mischief makers possibly, but didn’t MC suggest to the council a while since that WMDC took out a loan for a new ground, we paid the interest whilst WMDC chased Yorkcourt for the £15M?'"
A major obstacle to an amicable agreement has recently been removed. It's not mischief making, it's the BV revamp is closer to being a reality than at any time in the last decade at least.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I’ve no idea where these latest rumours have come from, mischief makers possibly, but didn’t MC suggest to the council a while since that WMDC took out a loan for a new ground, we paid the interest whilst WMDC chased Yorkcourt for the £15M?'"
You need to keep off that Cas forum, you'll be getting as paranoid as them.
Regarding any forthcoming announcements, I'm sure there's no smoke without fire, but the £15M seems a bit of a red herring.
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| I'm just wondering if 88m hasn't been getting many calls for the Superbowl land he wants to develop. Might want to be rid of the whole lot and use the money elsewhere, which opens up avenues for others to take advantage of. He's had it for quite a while and I've heard and read nothing about any takers for it. I could be completely wrong mind.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"A major obstacle to an amicable agreement has recently been removed. It's not mischief making, it's the BV revamp is closer to being a reality than at any time in the last decade at least.'"
I’d be interested to hear what major obstacle has recently been removed?
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"You need to keep off that Cas forum, you'll be getting as paranoid as them.
Regarding any forthcoming announcements, I'm sure there's no smoke without fire, but the £15M seems a bit of a red herring.'"
You’re right no smoke without fire we’ve had many false dawns but this one seems to have some substance. I agree about the 15m “I wish” can’t see it been anywhere near that. Enough to buy ground back and start developing a SL acceptable ground is what I reckon.
Up the Trin
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| Quote ="Wakefield City"You’re right no smoke without fire we’ve had many false dawns but this one seems to have some substance. I agree about the 15m “I wish” can’t see it been anywhere near that. Enough to buy ground back and start developing a SL acceptable ground is what I reckon.
Up the Trin'"
As I’ve stated before it’s whats not being said that’s interesting. Six month ago we were ready to go to the courts according to both the club and the Trust. Crowd funding was ready for launch it seemed like a matter of weeks before battle commenced.
Since then a wall of silence. Hopefully a good silence.
Despite being a founder of SWAG and happy to support NM I always preferred BV but I never thought it would be an option even though its the best option for us imo. I’m probably alone on that with my peers with the possible exception of Jinjer but I was always open minded to almost any possibility. Let’s just hope all those who matter are because the clock really is ticking and the options diminishing.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"You need to keep off that Cas forum, you'll be getting as paranoid as them.
Regarding any forthcoming announcements, I'm sure there's no smoke without fire, but the £15M seems a bit of a red herring.'"
It's not paranoia mate but cynicism, being involved with SWAG the whole saga has worn me down, I can't imagine how TRB, Sandal cat etc are coping with it.
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| Irish Whiskey has been known to help jinger
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| Quote ="JINJER"It's not paranoia mate but cynicism, being involved with SWAG the whole saga has worn me down, I can't imagine how TRB, Sandal cat etc are coping with it.
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I think TRB is semi retired now.
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| Quote ="vastman"As I’ve stated before it’s whats not being said that’s interesting. Six month ago we were ready to go to the courts according to both the club and the Trust. Crowd funding was ready for launch it seemed like a matter of weeks before battle commenced.
Since then a wall of silence. Hopefully a good silence.
Despite being a founder of SWAG and happy to support NM I always preferred BV but I never thought it would be an option even though its the best option for us imo. I’m probably alone on that with my peers with the possible exception of Jinjer but I was always open minded to almost any possibility. Let’s just hope all those who matter are because the clock really is ticking and the options diminishing.'"
BV would be my preferred option also. I never wanted NM, although I would have gone there if it had materialised.
I don't think bringing BV up to standard would cost as much as a brand new stadium,although you're surely still talking millions.
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"BV would be my preferred option also. I never wanted NM, although I would have gone there if it had materialised.
I don't think bringing BV up to standard would cost as much as a brand new stadium,although you're surely still talking millions.'"
A re-vamped BV will never be as good as a new stadium I can't dispute that. However with effort it could work and if nothing else it won't lose us any fans, we are at the bare bones now so we can only gain.
It has three big advantages IMO that shouldn't be overlooked - it's familiar, everyone who could be interested in RL knows where is, it's got history. Secondly it's easy to get to especially from town where you can arrive by bus or train and have a few pints, NM would only offer that to VIP's. Car parking isn't great but it's not dreadful either and there are ways around that. Finally due to the new by-pass I have no doubt that the Agbrigg area will see an upturn with a lot of new industry nearby - it will never be beautiful but the statdium along with the by-pass will hopefully reverse the decline.
It's catch 22 but I think if anyone could make a revamped BV pay then MC could, he's just about made the current pile of rubble viable which in itself is an amazing effort.
Basically it can work if you make it work, whether it's better than NM or moving out of the city is a different issue imo.
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| Can we say balne lane is a non runner? Perfect location imo ??
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Can we say balne lane is a non runner? Perfect location imo ??'"
Nobody knows, this is a RL forum it's all guess work even if some of it may be educated.
Yes it could be though I was shot to peices fir suggesting it si good luck on that one.
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| Just asking would a new stadium be built on the old bv site or Neil fox way technically bellvue area??
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| Quote ="cosmicat"Just asking would a new stadium be built on the old bv site or Neil fox way technically bellvue area??'"
Quote ="Sacred Cow"A major obstacle to an amicable agreement has recently been removed. It's not mischief making, it's the BV revamp is closer to being a reality than at any time in the last decade at least.'"
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| Quote ="vastman"A re-vamped BV will never be as good as a new stadium I can't dispute that. However with effort it could work and if nothing else it won't lose us any fans, we are at the bare bones now so we can only gain.
It has three big advantages IMO that shouldn't be overlooked - it's familiar, everyone who could be interested in RL knows where is, it's got history. Secondly it's easy to get to especially from town where you can arrive by bus or train and have a few pints, NM would only offer that to VIP's. Car parking isn't great but it's not dreadful either and there are ways around that. Finally due to the new by-pass I have no doubt that the Agbrigg area will see an upturn with a lot of new industry nearby - it will never be beautiful but the statdium along with the by-pass will hopefully reverse the decline.
It's catch 22 but I think if anyone could make a revamped BV pay then MC could, he's just about made the current pile of rubble viable which in itself is an amazing effort.
Basically it can work if you make it work, whether it's better than NM or moving out of the city is a different issue imo.'"
I'll add another couple to your list Vasty - it's a 'proper' rugby stadium, with excellent viewing of the playing area and the pitch is one of the best in SL.
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| Any training pitches?
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