last nights attendance was shocking, the love for the cup has gone

I don't think there is a cup or trophy that is good looking as the challenge cup and it should be every bodies dream to win it

2K turning out very poor

Well there we have it. Unless we win the thing there is no financial incentives it seems. The circa £1m the club gets from just being in SL means the league is more vital to the club.

Unfortunately the crowds will only come back when the tickets are cheap or free. Last seasons improved performances and this seasons crowds have shown that they do not necessarily corolate to an increase in the gate.

Well it wasn’t wakeys dream to win it- the coach made that clear in his pre match interview.
Neither is it unprecedented to get poor attendance- the earlier rounds of the challenge cup has had poor turn outs for many years- in fact since they moved the final to August- worse thing they did.
Wakey have to ensure SL survival- that’s worth much more to them financially than the cup. If they were to drop down they wouldn’t find it easy to come back. Hudds in the other hand are in s different position back to back wins were more important than the type of game.

He's a Hull fan (he's from Stanley but both his parents are from Hull).

Even fewer at Widnes, just over 1800, which bearing in mind they were playing Leeds, with their "huge support" is just disgraceful.
All those Leeds "fans" that turn up for the big games should be ashamed of their efforts.

It's a real shame that the Challenge Cup is so low down the shaft these days.
Leaving the SL clubs to come into the comp just before the quarter finals has taken away all of the "magic" of the cup but, there is a serious problem with attendances and I'm not sure what the remedy is.

What, we made almost £0.5m!!

We indicated straight after the Hull KR game that we were going to make changes. We used the cup to rest players which suggests what the underlying thinking was.
The problem now is what do we do with Caton Brown whose scoring percentage must be quite phenomenal.
It is a shame that BJB cannot play full back. He can catch the high ball and is obviously quick but not sure he has the positional or passing game required for this position.

Leeds fans turned up in respectable numbers (not massive but certainly not poor), Widnes fans just didn't bother. Most season ticket holders can't be bothered to fork out the extra cash, whereas more away fans will stump up the cash (as they do for all away games). I wish the RFL would create a standard £10 entrance fee for Challenge Cup games. Get 5000 fans in for £50,000 on the balance sheet rather than 1800 x £17 for £30K. Reduce ticket costs, increase the attendance figures and create break even revenue. Of course bringing the final back to late May and having a cup game every month in Feb, Mar and Apr wouldn't hurt the competition. The RFL have to put some strategic actions into reigniting interest in the Challenge Cup, but this is the RFL we are talking about.

Win that and you are two games from Wembley. You arent quite good enough to mount a serious top 4 challenge but you certainly are good enough to win a couple of one offs. I know survival is paramount for you guys, but you look safely in the top 8 to me. Chester saying it isnt a priority is just deflecting from a poor result imo.

That said anyone who wants him out now needs to give their head a bang.

The 'Magic of the Challenge Cup disappeared 10 years ago when Leeds and Saints got drawn together in a First Round tie and all people were bothered about was that one of them wouldn't be going to Wembley.
The next season, the Cup was 'seeded, absolute rubbish, this on top of moving the Final to August.

Chester emphasised "our" priorities before the cup exit, which was poor form.
Every head coach in every sport should be putting out a positive idea on winning the next game and should never infer that a game is unimportant, apart from the week before a cup final.
Surely we would have been better placed throwing all that we could at the cup game and trying to build some confidence.

The most disappointing aspect of last night was just how little Huddersfield had to do to win the game.

The OP is ridiculous
Chester is a good coach
I do believe that

Although I do think we are missing JK guidance
However we have to get on with out him as JK is in the past

I absolutely loath huddersfield
I was fuming at the loss on Friday on the same level as the sts loss at the end of last year

I've moved on though now to the next match
Let's make sure we get it right at magic though or I will be suicidal

can we hang onto the top 8= I am really worried the way we are playing,,,

I'm like that whenever Shudds have a win, regardless of the opponents. Equivalent of something on my shoe.

Do you need a cuddle ?

History will judge our coach as to wether he was good or bad for our club at the moment I’ll reserve judgement myself and see how he handles our next few supposedly winnable games .
As we all know coaches come and go , and we’ve had our share in the past , good, bad and indifferent, but for me the priority is to make sure this great club survives super league at all costs .
Without our status in the top flight I fear for the future of our club . Let’s get through this season with as little disruption as possible to staff and players , then regroup and see where we are at , if we need changes then I’m sure mr Carter will do the right thing for the club .

I don’t think sacking CC is the answer here but don’t subscribe the view that as supporters we can’t have a grumble nor hold a negative opinion on a player or a coach. There’s been a sanctimonious movement towards supporters somehow thinking they are included in the ‘win as a team lose as a team’ philosophy, people pay their money and they will have their say. Going out of the challenge cup with a barely whimper is not going to result in people coming away happy. For me we just regroup and redouble our efforts on getting top 8.

It’s been said reasonably on here that a good platform for building a successful long term squad is 100 games together, players will come and go but a core remains. I’m willing to go with that theory. I reckon we’re somewhere between half and two thirds of the way through that. Mistakes have been made but we’re always punching above our weight, and always will have to if we’re to be successful – even with a sugar daddy it would take a few years to get up to speed. Deferred gratification Sociologists used to call it, seems a hard thing to sell as instant success is almost demanded in the internet bubble of today. I still think the right man is in charge but there will coming a breaking point even in a long term project.

Currently we’re struggling to nail down consistency in some pivotal positions – this may continue through the season but I think we have enough to hit top 8 at the split and see what we can do from there. I would hope now that that those in control have made some decisions for 2019 on paper, that top 8 place will be critical to early moves being made to improve on what we have.

My thoughts exactly Wakefieldwall. Eloquently put too.

Time to kill at work. Thought I'd expand on my initial thoughts of 'shut up you tart'

Sorry to jump in on this, but on the Hampshire situation Chester isnt the first coach not to play him at stand off, basically every coach he has had hasn't. Maybe it's him that could be the issue, which is a shame because on potential and our lack of attacking halves in this country he could fill a void

I just don't get it. Some results haven't been great, and the occasional performance has been poor, but we have very limited resources and are sitting comfortably in seventh. The six teams above us are all teams we would expect to be above us, with greater resources and much better players. Of that bottom six of the top flight, where we are all similar in terms of expectation, we are the best. We are where we could have realistically have hoped to be.

As I've been saying for weeks, I too don't see what the big issue is; we're about where we could reasonably expect to be, given the personnel and resources available to us. Yes we've lost some close games - but our league position is entirely predictable and not in any way a disaster.

Anyone even thinking 'Chester out' is either a moron, or has their expectations entirely skewhiff.

Unfortunately the goons calling for Chester's head haven't factored in the fact that a few teams had distinctively average season's last season, that was never gonna carry on. We're where we should be, I believe if Kear was still here we'd probably be a couple of winners better off. Hey ho, next up Shudds.

Genuine, non-snippy question; why - on what basis?

I remember John Kear on Superleague full time after the Hull KR win, responding to a question on how he thinks Wakefield`s season would pan out he said "They will be top 4, without a doubt". Now for me that was a bit far fetched and I was a little surprised how confident he was in this team in all honesty!

My question would be if someone who 1. Knows a hell of a lot about rugby league and super league and 2. Has been with this group of players throughout last season and most of the pre season - If he has these expectations of Wakefield Trinity then how can we call fans for having expectations higher than what we have currently seen this season?

For me, we are probably just below where we should be at - We should have beaten Hudds last week, we have had a few unlucky losses with Hull and Leeds that could have gone either way and Salford.. Well lets not talk about that. I get the optimism and i get the realism and I get the frustrations from some fans, Chester out is not the answer, but I am starting to question what has changed in my mind, the team just are not the same team from last season, could be Kear I dont know, but we now have to work with what we have got and get behind the team.