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| id broadly agree with what people are saying but for me it's always worth looking at the negatives first.
No doubt if he worked out he'd be awesome but then so would Springer or almost anybody for that matter
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Springer would be a good acquisition and any signing has a risk to it although it's significantly less with Springer who is a big unit and will run it in hard. He no doubt will be on less than Pauli Pauli and is already based in the UK so issues around settling in etc will hopefully be irrelevant.
However I haven't seen much of Pauli Pauli in the NRL but if what is written about him has any basis of truth then he sounds as if he would be a real impact player if fit and healthy and able to settle in the UK.
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... b26ba94c6a
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Springer would be a good acquisition and any signing has a risk to it although it's significantly less with Springer who is a big unit and will run it in hard. He no doubt will be on less than Pauli Pauli and is already based in the UK so issues around settling in etc will hopefully be irrelevant.
However I haven't seen much of Pauli Pauli in the NRL but if what is written about him has any basis of truth then he sounds as if he would be a real impact player if fit and healthy and able to settle in the UK.
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... b26ba94c6a
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| Is Springer better than what we have ?
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| Not getting rid of ‘what we have’, are we?
Thought people were discussing additions.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Is Springer better than what we have ?'"
He's an addition isn't he - not sure I get your point? I suppose he's a replacement for Allgood/Walker/Hasson in which case he's a more than adequate replacement.
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| Out of the World Cup unfortunately..
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| The 'is he better than what we've got' could apply to any player.
Springer has been OK in the SL,without being used too much,looks good for the amount of minutes he plays but are we looking for something a bit more?
It's all about money at a club like ours, if you want the best put your money where your mouth is.
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Quote ="asmadasa"Springer would be a good acquisition and any signing has a risk to it although it's significantly less with Springer who is a big unit and will run it in hard. He no doubt will be on less than Pauli Pauli and is already based in the UK so issues around settling in etc will hopefully be irrelevant.
However I haven't seen much of Pauli Pauli in the NRL but if what is written about him has any basis of truth then he sounds as if he would be a real impact player if fit and healthy and able to settle in the UK.
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... b26ba94c6a'"
If we are happy with a big unit that runs it in hard then we may as well give up trying to improve now. Powell wasn't happy with a big unit that runs it in hard so why should we be ? After all, we are supposed to be using Cas' improvement as a blueprint , are we not ?
Props need to have skills as well as being a battering ram these days. Springer doesn't seem to have a skilful bone in his body from what I've seen. It's still a massive NO from me I'm afraid.
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Quote ="asmadasa"Springer would be a good acquisition and any signing has a risk to it although it's significantly less with Springer who is a big unit and will run it in hard. He no doubt will be on less than Pauli Pauli and is already based in the UK so issues around settling in etc will hopefully be irrelevant.
However I haven't seen much of Pauli Pauli in the NRL but if what is written about him has any basis of truth then he sounds as if he would be a real impact player if fit and healthy and able to settle in the UK.
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... b26ba94c6a'"
If we are happy with a big unit that runs it in hard then we may as well give up trying to improve now. Powell wasn't happy with a big unit that runs it in hard so why should we be ? After all, we are supposed to be using Cas' improvement as a blueprint , are we not ?
Props need to have skills as well as being a battering ram these days. Springer doesn't seem to have a skilful bone in his body from what I've seen. It's still a massive NO from me I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="MashPotatoes"If we are happy with a big unit that runs it in hard then we may as well give up trying to improve now. Powell wasn't happy with a big unit that runs it in hard so why should we be ? After all, we are supposed to be using Cas' improvement as a blueprint , are we not ?
Props need to have skills as well as being a battering ram these days. Springer doesn't seem to have a skilful bone in his body from what I've seen. It's still a massive NO from me I'm afraid.'"
Thankfully it isn't up to you or me. I think your totally wrong about what's required from a prop. You need a mix and you certainly need one those battering ram props. The idea that every prop needs to be a skillfull ball player is to my mind plain wrong.
However that's just opinion what does offend me is this idea we are just aping Cas. Well I chuffing hope not. We need to create our own style and our own ethos - I want no part of the so called Cas blueprint I certainly don't want us to be some low rent version of them. It's great for them not for us.
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| Skilful props cost lots of money, consistent skilful props cost even more. We've already got some good ball handling props, what we need is some extra muscle to push the pack forward for a couple of drives so the more skilled(?) players have time to make plays. What Chester and Kear have us playing is open and expansive rugby where possible, I'm not sure why that has become synonymous with Castleford alone now, as they're not doing anything which hasn't been done by multiple teams in the past
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| Quote ="MashPotatoes"If we are happy with a big unit that runs it in hard then we may as well give up trying to improve now. Powell wasn't happy with a big unit that runs it in hard so why should we be ? After all, we are supposed to be using Cas' improvement as a blueprint , are we not ?
Props need to have skills as well as being a battering ram these days. Springer doesn't seem to have a skilful bone in his body from what I've seen. It's still a massive NO from me I'm afraid.'"
People don't know what Powell is or isn't happy about with Springer ....assumptions are being made about the player abilities and the coach's thoughts.
All I know is that Springer was a handful whenever he played against Trinity and is SL pedigree.
If he is an addition and CC & JK think he adds strength to the pack and sign him then he'll do for me....
I recall on this forum a few years ago when suggesting possible prop signings some statied that Keegan Hirst was not SL standard does not run his weight and could not catch a cold never mind a rugby ball..how times change...Hirst is a now top SL prop in my opinion and hopefully signs a new contract with Trinity.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"People don't know what Powell is or isn't happy about with Springer ....assumptions are being made about the player abilities and the coach's thoughts.
All I know is that Springer was a handful whenever he played against Trinity and is SL pedigree.
If he is an addition and CC & JK think he adds strength to the pack and sign him then he'll do for me....
I recall on this forum a few years ago when suggesting possible prop signings some statied that Keegan Hirst was not SL standard does not run his weight and could not catch a cold never mind a rugby ball..how times change...Hirst is a now top SL prop in my opinion and[u hopefully signs a new contract with Trinity[/u.'"
Like you I hope the bag man stays because he's a good Prop already but I think he could become even better. What you typed could be the elephant in the room though and the reason we may be looking at other non quota players like Springer. He simply may have been offered more money elsewhere, by a team looking for a giant, who have also seen his improvement as the season has gone on. The sounds coming out of the club by JK saying he was looking forward working with Hirst more next season and MC on the radio, seemed to suggest he was staying & it was more about just working out his contract, we'll see though,
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Depressing, more like.
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Depressing, more like.
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| League express suggesting we are switching our attention to other targets after not hearing back from Pauli Pauli representatives.
Also reports a further year agreed with Grix on top of the year he had left
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What a difference 5 years make.
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What a difference 5 years make.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"League express suggesting we are switching our attention to other targets after not hearing back from Pauli Pauli representatives.
Also reports a further year agreed with Grix on top of the year he had left'"
Regardind scotty oh dear! Some of the rats on here will be throwing thereselfs on the traps!
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"How about Keegan Hirst at Batley? He's still a young bloke, is massive and appears to be a reet nasty piece of work.
Not a quick fix, but it would be interesting to see how he developed in a full time environment."
I didn't do bad there did I?!
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"How about Keegan Hirst at Batley? He's still a young bloke, is massive and appears to be a reet nasty piece of work.
Not a quick fix, but it would be interesting to see how he developed in a full time environment."
I didn't do bad there did I?!
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| Gadwin's issue is consistency. He's a powerful forward but the next week can be bang average. He's raw and needs to work on areas of his game, specifically defensively. I'd be disappointed if we let him go. There's a Super League player in there and he has the potential to be a good one. He just needs someone to bring it out of him.
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| Quote ="bren2k""How about Keegan Hirst at Batley? He's still a young bloke, is massive and appears to be a reet nasty piece of work.
Not a quick fix, but it would be interesting to see how he developed in a full time environment."
I didn't do bad there did I?!'"
Yeah not bad at all. The Walmsley one were a good call as well. Pity we didn't get in first.
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| Love Rugby League linking us with Lama Tasi.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Love Rugby League linking us with Lama Tasi.'"
He's an interesting one, obviously a good player who'd improve us, better than Allgood imo , great go forward, excellent tackler and he knows SL and Trinity. But on the other hand he does like a drink, in itself isn't bad but apparentely that's why Saints got rid. Anyway I'll trust the call CC and JK make if true.
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| Quote ="Her in doors"Are you for real? Tansey did'nt do a thing agreed but we approached castleford for these players they did not just offer them to us, Owen Won us a game against Leeds when we needed it! And Moores try kept us in super league. More posatives than negatives ! The opposite to you.'"
I think you'll find we were winning already when Moore scored, his try didn't keep us in super league.
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| Quote ="metallicat"I think you'll find we were winning already when Moore scored, his try didn't keep us in super league.'"
Well it certainly guaranteed it.
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| Quote ="metallicat"I think you'll find we were winning already when Moore scored, his try didn't keep us in super league.'"
Up to the point when scott moore scored we were winning by two points! And you dont think he won us the game ! Really
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