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| Quote ="KevW60349"The actual plan of the H B Clark site, which has been re drawn because it impinged on the area listed for the Community Stadium i have been told is 170,000 sq.ft. which equates to 15,790 sq.mtres. Whether or not all this planned site is "B8 Warehousing and Distribution space" as required towards the trigger point i can't say for definite. Looking at the requirements of what Clarks need i would imagine the majority of it is, but until the plans are in the public domain who can say for sure.'"
Don't suppose you'd have chance to get any evidence of this? Especially that it impinged on the stadium footprint. Could be very useful
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.'"
The planning application says 38,764 m2 so they are pretty close.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"OK I stand corrected.
I was lead to believe that the first Newcold building was around 22,500m² and the second one was slightly bigger'"
I would have to agree with you. I seem to remember reading when the 1st stage was opened that it was 50% complete so I assumed the 2nd stage would be the same size. Didn't seem to have any significance at the time as it looked as if neither would count to the trigger point.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.'"
This is what I was referring to!
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| Quote ="Daddycool"Don't suppose you'd have chance to get any evidence of this? Especially that it impinged on the stadium footprint. Could be very useful'"
Daddycool, i have no evidence myself, only the word of the person who gave me the information. I have no reason to doubt what he has told me. I will try and find out from him anything further that may be of help.
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| Quote ="Sacred Cow"Just as a point of note the total floor space for the Newcold build as quoted in their own plans is 38,797sqm. So if the figure for Clarks above is correct then we would still be over 5000sqm short.'"
Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like? If you divide the Newcold by five it wouldn't be a particularly big build.
Some people have suggested Yorkcourt would hold back a little to avoid the 60,000 trigger, wouldn't that be a very dangerous game to play? Assuming Yorkcourt stopped at 59,000 Sqm, then there was evidence to suggest that a business had been refused the chance to build on Newmarket, how would they stand legally?
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| Quote ="JINJER"Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like? If you divide the Newcold by five it wouldn't be a particularly big build.
Some people have suggested Yorkcourt would hold back a little to avoid the 60,000 trigger, wouldn't that be a very dangerous game to play? Assuming Yorkcourt stopped at 59,000 Sqm, then there was evidence to suggest that a business had been refused the chance to build on Newmarket, how would they stand legally?'"
Legally, as things stand, there is nowt we can do! It's all about the new agreement and the terms therein!
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| Quote ="TRB"Legally, as things stand, there is nowt we can do! It's all about the new agreement and the terms therein!'"
Have they set a date for a meeting yet?
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Quote ="JINJER"Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like?'"
5000sqm is not big, it's 100m x 50m, which is just a bit smaller than the dimensions for a rugby pitch specified on the RFL website:
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/rul ... ying_field
Indoor training area, anyone?
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Quote ="JINJER"Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like?'"
5000sqm is not big, it's 100m x 50m, which is just a bit smaller than the dimensions for a rugby pitch specified on the RFL website:
www.rugby-league.com/the_rfl/rul ... ying_field
Indoor training area, anyone?
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With delivery bays and storage areas.
There was supposed to be a indoor sports pitch as part of the facilities on offer at NM. Not sure if this is still the case.
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With delivery bays and storage areas.
There was supposed to be a indoor sports pitch as part of the facilities on offer at NM. Not sure if this is still the case.
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And that's where I was going, if the trigger was just short, what would there be to stop the club buying and developing the shortfall, and pushing the overall development over 60,000?
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And that's where I was going, if the trigger was just short, what would there be to stop the club buying and developing the shortfall, and pushing the overall development over 60,000?
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| Quote ="JINJER"And that's where I was going, if the trigger was just short, what would there be to stop the club buying and developing the shortfall, and pushing the overall development over 60,000?'"
That sounds like a plan!
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| Quote ="JINJER"And that's where I was going, if the trigger was just short, what would there be to stop the club buying and developing the shortfall, and pushing the overall development over 60,000?'"
Theoretically nothing I guess, other than finding the money to finance it. If it was funded by the club with a loan from a bank, and then let as warehousing, that would potentially be another stream of revenue for WTRLFC over a long term period. Totally understand that the "getting a bank loan" bit would be difficult, but this would be an investment that offered (or should offer, assuming a tenant can be found) a source of rental income to pay off the loan.
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| So if Clark's do go there is it just a Distribution Centre or will they build there own Pub, because that is what will be needed on the site as well just like Leigh Ground. Are the trust going to be canvassing the different Foods&Drink chains ie Weatherspoons/Flaming Gril's if there's potential of building onto the Newmarket site just wondering.
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| Quote ="acko"So if Clark's do go there is it just a Distribution Centre or will they build they own Pub, Because that is what will be needed on the site as well just like Leigh Ground. Are the trust going to be Canvassing the different Foods&Drink chains ie Weatherspoons/Flaming Gril's if there's potential of building onto the Newmarket site just wondering.'"
If I rember correctly weren't there plans for a pub/restaurant on the Newmarket site?
Regarding Wetherspoons (Railway stations, airports etc aside) do they ever do new builds? I always thought they took over old buildings.
As an aside, in businesses such as this, who touts the land around? Is it Yorkcourt? I can't see for a minute that the trust will be the ones to promote Newmarket.
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| Quote ="JINJER"If I rember correctly weren't there plans for a pub/restaurant on the Newmarket site?
Regarding Wetherspoons (Railway stations, airports etc aside) do they ever do new builds? I always thought they took over old buildings.
As an aside, in businesses such as this, who touts the land around? Is it Yorkcourt? I can't see for a minute that the trust will be the ones to promote Newmarket.'"
It would be Yorkcourt and the Council not the Trust.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"It would be Yorkcourt and the Council not the Trust.'"
Yeah, I thought it would be. Cheers.
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| Quote ="JINJER"If I rember correctly weren't there plans for a pub/restaurant on the Newmarket site?
Regarding Wetherspoons (Railway stations, airports etc aside) do they ever do new builds? I always thought they took over old buildings.
As an aside, in businesses such as this, who touts the land around? Is it Yorkcourt? I can't see for a minute that the trust will be the ones to promote Newmarket.'"
A wetherspoons was part of a new development in Halifax
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| Quote ="JINJER"And that's where I was going, if the trigger was just short, what would there be to stop the club buying and developing the shortfall, and pushing the overall development over 60,000?'"
A lack of willingness to sell and a lack of money to buy it anyway at a guess. There would be plenty of land left, you'd have to buy the rest to tempt Yorkcourt and the farmer they have the deal with. Also wouldn't Yorkcourt selling the remaining land whilst never reaching the trigger absolve them of ever making the stadium payment? So we'd have to find an extra ten million quid for that as well.
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| Quote ="djcool"A wetherspoons was part of a new development in Halifax'"
Smart ass, point taken, they do new builds.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Smart ass, point taken, they do new builds.
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You are right though, no pub in the plans. A fast food restaurant is the only retail allowed up there i think and that can't be built until the stadium is up and running.
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| Quote ="JINJER"Does anyone know what a building of 5,000sqm looks like? If you divide the Newcold by five it wouldn't be a particularly big build.
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You cant say what if they stop at 59,000 sqm,I said that 5 years ago and vasty called me names
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| Quote ="JINJER"If I rember correctly weren't there plans for a pub/restaurant on the Newmarket site?
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As an aside, in businesses such as this, who touts the land around? Is it Yorkcourt? I can't see for a minute that the trust will be the ones to promote Newmarket.'"
The Winter Seam at Excape was a new build.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"The Winter Seam at Excape was a new build.'"
And Durham, ok I was wrong, is that better?icon_smile.gif
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| My Clarkes rep confirmed to me today that they are planning to be in Newmarket in a fully operational distribution centre by May 2018
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