Some people actually dared to suggest that before he had even pulled on a shirt he was a poor signing, as was Howarth, and possibly all the others sine Webster's departure. I'm afraid they are just that, poor. I think we are Tansey's 6th, maybe 7th club in his career?! How old is he, 28? and I still don't know what position he plays. This tag of a 'utility' player is a polite way of saying, they are no good in a particular position so we will call them utility and hope to get away with it! Generally all in all the last 18 months to 2 years have seen a trickle of the better players we had leaving, being replaced by inferior ones, so I don't think it really matters who the coach is to be honest, although I did expect a bit better under BS. They just seem to implode at crucial points in games, silly schoolboy errors that they seem to do week in week out, then they just give up when the going gets tough. I thought we were making progress but not so sure now, I think a couple have made good strides as individuals, but as a team we haven't, but that's partly Smith's fault for chopping and changing all the time, which he's fully entitled to do, but it may come back to haunt him having no continuity. Very disappointed with the effort today, it was like turning the clock back 2 months....

I think that whoever takes on the marketing job on no pay has just been given a poison chalice by the players. I thought Lyne would be dropped today he fails to impress every game. His only saving grace was his pace but that as long gone. Howarth was a disaster the first time around we are now stuck with him for another season, the same for Tansey.

Sio comes in for Howarth and Matt Ryan for Lynne in my opinion. Whether Riley is the better option than Tansey I'm unsure. Play Jowitt at full back and keep Miller at 6.

Washbrook can do at dummy half what both Howarth and Sio can do, yet both of them have been given 18 month deals. I got told off on here for saying that McShane or Godinet won't be here next year, if, and it's a massive if because we don't know what league we will be in, but if Washbrook , McShane & Godinet are here, why would you sign Howarth & Sio on 18 month deals?!

I doubt you could play Ryan at centre not quick or fit enough. The obvious choice would be Hall regardless of what some of you will say. I would remind supporters what some of our so called experts thought about Arundel.

After the last few games why was our in-form half back, Miller, pushed to full back and out of the attacking action when Locke was retired injured? Again, Tim Smith showed determined effort NOT to run with the ball, although he did throw one or two good passes out today.

Smith also threw one or two awful passes out our attack looked one dimensional again with him in trouble with him he needs a good pack getting on top and backing him up to look good and we aint got that so we need a scrum half who can put himself in the firing line and take the line on. I have praised Smith in the past when we had a good pack and Sykes and Mathers backing him up but we need a whole different type of half at the moment

Supported the club for over 50 years, starting to feel like walking away. Money is tight and Im sure there must be more enjoyable ways of spending Sunday afternoon.

no he isn't a half back, hes a good broken play player, but a creative half back never.

think we all got a bit giddy at the wire game

We are very lucky that we have a second chance with the play offs because this as been our worse season for many years. I hope we survive but to be honest unlike previous years we do not deserve to. If we fail then it would be fair when you consider the points gap between us and Salford, this is not to say that we will but I have seen little in the recent performances to suggest we can. I know Smith has improved things but sadly we were just too far below the rest of SL following the reign of Webster who was allowed to stay too long.

Lee Smith is now the obvious centre choice. Ryan should be on the bench and could then slot into the forwards or backs - if he had been on the bench today then we could have kept Miller at half back (not sure who played in the halves after the re-shuffle, it seemed to change as the game progressed).

Only problem with Lee Smith is that you don't know what fitness level he's coming to the club in. He hasn't played all season so is unlikely to be match fit or anywhere near that level to be honest. Very hard to come in and play well in those circumstances.

Will fit in great. Some of these players have played most of the season and still they are not playing well

Touche, I just wish we'd move away from this grapple tackle! fair enough it might slow the play the ball down, but I'd far sooner see the opposition being hit backwards hard with an old fashioned tackle. They might get up and play the ball a bit quicker but they'd have doubts about running it in again!

I can handle being thrashed by Leeds, Wigan, and Saints etc. That's not as embarrassing and usually expected.

However, it is embarrassing to lose by 50 odd against Widnes, Cas and Hull KR teams if we had the right attitude and coaching we could quite rightly beat, especially on home turf.

But its all the fan's fault because of poor attendances......

You realise that Cas are way above the level of Widnes and Hull KR at the moment, right? And that we have beaten all three of Leeds, Wigan and Saints this season (Leeds and Saints very recently)?
If you expect to be thrashed by Leeds, Wigan and Saints why do you think you should be beating Cas?

Err - because Cas have the honour of being one of the only three teams to lose to us this season???

Notice the phrase "at the moment". We had a scratchy start to the year, including the loss to Wakefield. However, given recent form expecting to beat us but to be thrashed by teams we have recently beaten isn't logical.

of course it is. we are pathetic for not just simply turning up etc.

Poor supporters us wakey lot ...

Quite frankly it is squad quality. I see your team on paper (and many others do) as not as strong as Cas fans like to think, but the game ain't played on paper and you have arguably one of the best British coaches in the game. With other teams they rely on certain players but for you guys I think you rely on Powell. Without him, I doubt very much you'd be where you are.

Agreed, Powell is the most important individual at Cas.
Although we do have some top players scattered about the team (Dorn, Carney, Shenton, Gale, Holmes and Millington would get in any SL team IMO).

We all know Shenton isn't a top player, he got found out massively at St Helens. Holmes and millington maybe. At the end of the day you've a solid team that's well drilled and plays to a game plan.

He was good enough to be chosen in the SL Dream Team last year and also in the England team. His stats are better than most other centres in terms of tries, try assists and metres.
I don't think he struggled at Saints as much as some make out. He played almost every games and scored 20 tries from 58 appearances. In the 2011 grand final he scored a try before dislocating his shoulder and Leeds then scored most of their tries in the position he would have been defending.
Gale has been one of the leading halves in SL this year. Carney is devastating in attack (though I wish he wouldn't shoot out of the line in defence!)

If he is such a good centre then why did St. Helens get rid of him? All I saw from Shenton today were repeated attempts to con the ref by throwing himself on the floor, most of which were successful.