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Think he means Widnes. And Hull KR when they came up. In fact quite a few times when a team has tons of anticipation behind them
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Erm, when did this happen?'"
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"According to independant match reports Greg Johnson has been brilliant in the pre season games. I think he will be one of the best signings Salford have made. He looked very good when at Hudds and Wakefield, was excellent at Batley and will, I think be a SL star.'"
Ditto Fox yet you seem to sneeringly dismiss that in this very same thread - why is that - why do you seem to think the grass is always greener  |
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| Quote ="vastman"Ditto Fox yet you seem to sneeringly dismiss that in this very same thread - why is that - why do you seem to think the grass is always greener
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Originally I thought it best that Godinet, Ryan & Anderson should miss out as they'd be off the pace and it'd be too soon a ask for them to fit into the structures etc. Now, I'm thinking we should just play them, get their fitness up and accept the game may have come around too soon for us and what will be will be.
With Noble, you know Salford will be well organised, big across the park and their attack will be strong especially when moving the ball from right to left quickly through the hands to look at scoring in the left hand corner
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Collis
Lyne
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Kirmond
Washbrook (
Ali (15-20 min spells each half)
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Is there a reason why people are selecting Lyne in the centres and Briscoe on the wing? I would have thought they would play the other way around.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"According to independant match reports Greg Johnson has been brilliant in the pre season games. I think he will be one of the best signings Salford have made. He looked very good when at Hudds and Wakefield, was excellent at Batley and will, I think be a SL star.'"
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Chillax man, sorry for disagreeing with your hypothesis but, even Kirmo was like a duck out of water when he last played in the three quarters and IMO Tautai would be no different.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion, it just seems that ours is different.
Anyway, will you get any coverage of the game from over there or will you be keeping tabs via RLFans ?'"
Chill axed...
Tautai joined Cronulla as a winger then I watched him play for two seasons at nulla as a winger...then he went back to parra where Stewart began to convert him into an impact forward.... With no success!
For me he is a winger... End of!
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Tautai joined Cronulla as a winger then I watched him play for two seasons at nulla as a winger...then he went back to parra where Stewart began to convert him into an impact forward.... With no success!
For me he is a winger... End of!
Salford game will be about 2 am on Monday morning for me... But I will probably wake up and check the iPad from time to time.'"
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Quote ="Old Blighty"Chill axed...
Tautai joined Cronulla as a winger then I watched him play for two seasons at nulla as a winger...then he went back to parra where Stewart began to convert him into an impact forward.... With no success!
For me he is a winger... End of!
Salford game will be about 2 am on Monday morning for me... But I will probably wake up and check the iPad from time to time.'"
I thought Tautai played well against Leeds on Boxing Day and he played prop then. It took 3/4 to tackle him on every occasion and he made yardage every time. He just makes the odd error that needs cutting out.
Our backs are not light weights either Luke Briscoe should be on the wing based on his performances IMHO and they've said he can be an effective second row!
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/22120.php#.Uvp-lH8gGSM
Collis is over 6 ft and is about 14 1/2 stone and is a class centre IMHO just needs to stay fit.
Mariano would have had the nod at centre from me if he was still around...
The other centre either Reece Lyne or Jimmy Kienhorst are both well over 6 foot and pushing 14 1/2 stone. Be interesting which one Agar goes for as Kienhorst hasn't played at all yet has he? Safest option may be Lyne who has bulked up, remember start of last season? He was very good until injury seemed to destroy confidence...
Peter Fox is also 6 foot and 14 1/2 stone and is good going forward but defensively can have brain farts under the high ball which Tim Smith may be keen to exploit.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Fox_ ... _born_1984)
I think we must match them up front in the pack and hope for creativity from our pivots so our big guys need to be in the middle from the word go.
Weather will be probably be poor on a heavy wet pitch so free flowing rugby it may not be? Hope the game hasn't come 2 weeks too early for our imports.
I'd also like to see Walshaw in the 17 as he seems to have bulked up and was very difficult to stop against Leeds on Boxing Day. He's 6 foot 5 tall and has to be pushing 17 stone surely? Him and Ryan out wide as second rows with a high ball on the Salford line on the last tackle will pose them problems....  |
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Tautai joined Cronulla as a winger then I watched him play for two seasons at nulla as a winger...then he went back to parra where Stewart began to convert him into an impact forward.... With no success!
For me he is a winger... End of!
Salford game will be about 2 am on Monday morning for me... But I will probably wake up and check the iPad from time to time.'"
I thought Tautai played well against Leeds on Boxing Day and he played prop then. It took 3/4 to tackle him on every occasion and he made yardage every time. He just makes the odd error that needs cutting out.
Our backs are not light weights either Luke Briscoe should be on the wing based on his performances IMHO and they've said he can be an effective second row!
www.therhinos.co.uk/news/22120.php#.Uvp-lH8gGSM
Collis is over 6 ft and is about 14 1/2 stone and is a class centre IMHO just needs to stay fit.
Mariano would have had the nod at centre from me if he was still around...
The other centre either Reece Lyne or Jimmy Kienhorst are both well over 6 foot and pushing 14 1/2 stone. Be interesting which one Agar goes for as Kienhorst hasn't played at all yet has he? Safest option may be Lyne who has bulked up, remember start of last season? He was very good until injury seemed to destroy confidence...
Peter Fox is also 6 foot and 14 1/2 stone and is good going forward but defensively can have brain farts under the high ball which Tim Smith may be keen to exploit.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Fox_ ... _born_1984)
I think we must match them up front in the pack and hope for creativity from our pivots so our big guys need to be in the middle from the word go.
Weather will be probably be poor on a heavy wet pitch so free flowing rugby it may not be? Hope the game hasn't come 2 weeks too early for our imports.
I'd also like to see Walshaw in the 17 as he seems to have bulked up and was very difficult to stop against Leeds on Boxing Day. He's 6 foot 5 tall and has to be pushing 17 stone surely? Him and Ryan out wide as second rows with a high ball on the Salford line on the last tackle will pose them problems.... | |
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Peter Fox is also 6 foot and 14 1/2 stone and is good going forward but defensively can have brain farts under the high ball which Tim Smith may be keen to exploit.'"
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Quote ="bren2k"That'd be a first - as much I admired Tim Smith in many ways, I never once saw him exploit anybody with a high ball; kicks in play are probably the weakest part of his game, second only to defence.'"
Really the stats and what I watched in the last 2 years states different...4th highest in the Super League for attacking kicks...128 last year and season before 141. I accept that this is quantity not quality and a good chunk may have been grubber kicks but if he was that crap at it as you say, RA would have told him to give it a miss and hand the responsibility over to Sykes.
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Really the stats and what I watched in the last 2 years states different...4th highest in the Super League for attacking kicks...128 last year and season before 141. I accept that this is quantity not quality and a good chunk may have been grubber kicks but if he was that crap at it as you say, RA would have told him to give it a miss and hand the responsibility over to Sykes.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Really the stats and what I watched in the last 2 years states different...4th highest in the Super League for attacking kicks...128 last year and season before 141. I accept that this is quantity not quality and a good chunk may have been grubber kicks but if he was that crap at it as you say, RA would have told him to give it a miss and hand the responsibility over to Sykes.'"
I don't care how many he made - the point is that they were of poor quality; Smith is a classy player with ball in hands, but his kicking game is rubbish. |
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I quite liked his no look kick against Salford.
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Smith chipped a beautiful kick high into the corner for Greg Johnson to score in our friendly vs Warrington last week.
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He doesn't really have a long game but that is party because we gave that to Smith and Sykes, who do.
He has kicked a 40-20 before for us and his short game is good.
The problem is (though I may be biased in his favour as I do like him) is that the runners aren't as tuned in as he is.
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try the kick at hull away last year for peter fox to win the game its a beauty
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Smith has a good kicking game, especially his short game. Ok he might not be Danny Brough but not many are. But he is a more than good enough kicker of a rugby ball.
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I always referred Smith as "me laddo" when he was at wakey, dunno how I'l go on now! He's one of the worst defenders I've ever seen, but that being said he is special in attack.... I think "wakefield under the high ball", as an opposition supporter, aren't as bad as you're making out though.
I wonder what % of tries now come from kicks, I doubt wakefield would be higher than average - though admittedly that's cause your fringe defence was the targetted area last year
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Good luck for Sunday guys. As a Salford fan, I have a soft spot for Wakey so although I hope we win, I wish you the very best of luck for the rest of the season.
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Hi all, reckon Wakey are a stronger team than people giving them credit for, I actually think its a stronger team than last season and have a Gem in Godinet, he's an exciting player, a bit of a maverick, if he can hit the ground running and Wakeys 3/4s are awake then I can see an upset on Sunday, by the way Ryan is a beast of a player and defender
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| Quote ="bandgeekmafia78"Good luck for Sunday guys. As a Salford fan, I have a soft spot for Wakey so although I hope we win, I wish you the very best of luck for the rest of the season.'"
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Smith has a good kicking game, especially his short game. Ok he might not be Danny Brough but not many are. But he is a more than good enough kicker of a rugby ball.'"
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