There are so many posters who remind me of the foreign character in a film ( don't know what it was) who exclaims,

Criticising Glover, Carter, Elston etc is dead easy but the fact is we are where we are and Carter is proposing a way of moving forward. The "no nowts" on here criticise, moan and groan and want us to be starting from somewhere else. Unless we have a few (hundred) thousand to invest in the club we can do nothing but buy a ST, join 1873, join Foxy, volunteer etc and trust people like Carter who, on the face of it seems eminently sensible. Stop criticising, support the club - if we go in to the Champs it's not the end of the world just where we realistically belong AT THE MOMENT. I'm not rose tinted just realistic - keep the faith, we still have a club to support.

Stopping the criticism has got us in to this mess time and time again. If it's constructive, it's not a problem.

It's pointless. It's like the passengers on the Titanic arguing over whether the captain should have gone left or right, faster or slower to avoid the iceberg.
Mmmmh not the best analogy perhaps but you get my meaning.

The cynic in me believes the thing he can offer is not bringing an employment tribunal against the club at a time when they can ill afford it, I’m guessing some of the financial issues may have partially been brought on with the ‘dismissal’ of the club’s previous management and the court cases that will have involved.

Looking at it objectively his tenure as CEO has seen crowds improve greatly (although I question actual figures announced), improved access to merchandise, a greater match day atmosphere and up until it all started tumbling down a genuine positive perception of the club both inside and out. Now if he can do the same but on a limited budget and not a seemingly open cheque book then he will be worth keeping hold of despite these mystery investors who are apparently waiting in the wings for him to go before they will part with their money.

Time will ultimately tell.

To put it another way, ship designers can learn from the disaster to make future liners more robust when encountering an iceberg, or passenger cruise companies can learn of the pitfalls transatlantic voyages may incur and put in procedures to mitigate the risks. If we keep glossing over the issues of the past we’ll keep making the same mistakes.

I think Championship Rugby is inevitable once the new structure comes in.....

As an outsider looking in I've just read this entire thread and it doesn't make very pleasant reading. As a rugby league fan I think it would be a great loss if Trinity were to drop out of Super League. I'm sure everyone at the club is doing their best but can I ask if the local newspaper are helping in any way. They're the perfect medium to get the message to the public and they might just persuade one or two more fans to buy their season passes.
The best of luck to you all.

Yes but ship designers know what they're talking about.
I presume MC and others have already made their analyses without help from this forum. As I've said - if you want to influence the direction of this club get a few hundred k out of the bank. If you can't do that, do whatever you can that's helpful - get a few more people to buy STs etc - but keep positive.

Cheers Hessle, thanks for your support.

Although there are plenty of supporters who are willing to back our new management, unfortunately we are in a situation which, to many people is very similar to where we were 2 1/2 years back and it takes a hell of a lot of resolve and determination to keep getting back up again, so you can forgive the folk who are less than happy with
our plight.
Our new chairman has said that we will be in SL next season, so we will see you at the KC and at our place, although I hope that we can get at least 2 points from you next season.
The home game against you guys, when we were probably expected to win, seemed to be a turning point, so lets hope its onwards and upwards.

Cheers.

What's the chance of us convincing a few of your guys to buy season tickets for Wakey? Certainly seems to be a few who won't be buying them for the KC if your message boards are anything to go by.
We're a friendly bunch, you'll all be made welcome (well your cash will!!)

What's all this talk of the Championship, it looks like we have given up already.

We are still a Super League Club and will be playing in Super League in 2014. It will be a tough season for us without a doubt but it's not going to be easy for a few other Clubs as well and making the 12 is still achievable even with a reduced budget.

What we have shown in abundance over the years is our spirit and dogged determination and it's never let us down yet. We have Management Team that are not going to bust the Club, a good coach who can find talent and we (the Trust) hope to be announcing shortly ways of raising investment.

Get behind and support the Club and we can and will retain our Super League status.

10 reasons to buy your season ticket:

An afternoon of live Superleague on your doorstep for under £13
The banter and cameraderie with fellow supporters
The chance to meet up with family and friends over a few pints and a PIE
Seeing the kids from our local rugby teams playing on a professional team pitch and doing a lap of honour at half time
A Big Ali offload
Local derbys - That Friday night v Leeds, those nail biting seconds at the end of the Cas game and the BIG grins after
Pride in our City as we wear the shirt
Daddy Cool - Best mascot in SL
Our Club history
The North Stand army - loud and proud

I'm in for 2014, bring it on!

I think the downside of raising investment Sandal cat .. isn't just the current debtors.

Its what will happen to the existing loans in the company will they be written of?

No Sugar daddies cool or otherwise will invest ( I don't know if there is anyone out here ) with current outstanding loans to this board or to Glover and Elston.

This could have the effect of reduction of debt while at the same time keeping our super league status.

If a clean sheet can be the base then am sure all supporters would look at it differently.

It seems to me we either attract a new wealth led devotee to the game who will do what he sees fit.

The other choice is a multiple number of investors who then re-elect a board from that number to run the club.

If thats not worth fighting for, then what is.

Being Wakey born and bred should be enough.there's enough of us

get down and spend your money,best spectator sport going.

Although they may not be your personal concern, what about the creditors, who have supplied goods to Wakefield Trinity in good faith ?

Reminds me of the last line in one of the Harry Potter books.

How can we win when the odds are so stacked against us?
Because we have something worth fighting for!

I'm with you. Excellent post

I'm with Daddy Cool!

Exactly, and we are at our best when our backs are against the wall.

OK, I'm in!!

We've never finished bottom since being back in SuperLeague and we've never been relegated from SuperLeague.
That in itself is something to be proud of and to strive to achieve again next year.

Is the S/T counter on the website live or, do we update on a weekly basis ?

I'd guess it's live, it's just that only the hardcore appear to be buying memberships!

Totally agree!!! when have we ever had easy at Wakefield?? but we survive!!! and the good times (just about..) make it worthwhile!! I cant understand why anybody wouldnt buy a season ticket its worth every penny!

I have no hidden agenda, I just have observations. I am an ordinary supporter and by being that I think I better understand how we think. The majority of supporters do not have the same drive or unstinting loyalty as most who post on the forum.
They are fickle they want to see a competitive team, they want some positive news and more importantly they want to be in super league. I have supported the club for enough years to remember our various relegations and completely unjustified demotion. The return to the championship which some of you find an acceptable outcome will result in crowds dropping, how would Newmarket look with about 3000 people watching. We would lose our current players and be unable to attract young players because they want to play at the top.
I know you believe I am talking treason but look at the rush to buy season tickets, it's just human nature and wakefield Trinity weariness that this is happening once again.