I think you'll find it does


It's a combination of all of the above

The thing to factor in with both Smith and Amor is that we have saved 3 months wages on them also.
In Tim's case I would guess that equates to a saving of somewhere between £20k and £25k. In Amor's case I would guess somewhere around the £10k mark.

I know that is not exactly funds raised but it is a big chunk of savings.

Does that apply in all sport then? Was Gareth Bale contracted to Spurs for the next 20 years, or was he already being paid £400k per week with 4 years left on his contract?????


Whilst it will have a bearing, I wouldn't have thought this was the basis for calculating transfer fees.

Sorry must have mis read it, so how much did you get for Timmy?

Sorry, what I meant was just because a player has, say, 2 years left on his contract and earns 80K a year then he isn't going to go for a tranfer fee of 160K. Salary levels come into the negotiations obviously as it affects what a buying club can afford to pay for a player and whether the selling club needs them off the wage bill. As you say its a combination of things, other Vince Mellars would be worth the best part of 100 grand!

Fwiw. Rangi Chase's contract was worth £400k+. And we got £112'500 for him. And on that basis. I'd doubt Smith pulled in £140k also.

But I'm only presuming.

Youve saved 3 months of smith wage as that was an immediate transfer. Is Amors an immediate one or for next year?. Havent seen it stated either way anywhere.

Be interesting to know whether that is the case. We know Smith went immediately, but then Salford could fit him under their salary cap. But can Saints fit two months of Amors contract under their cap? Has his wage come straight off our books and onto theirs or is it next seasons transfer and we will be paying him until november?

A substantial fee.





An interesting one that, if he was being paid by St’s from now couldn’t they throw him into the mix for the playoffs, or has the RFL put a block on that, after the NRL lot started coming over - Andrew Johns for instance.

Yes, blocked. That's why Smith couldn't play for Salford either

That's where the supply and demand part comes in.

If say Smith had a contract with us worth £100k, and you really wanted him, we could justify saying that to buy him out of the contract would take us being paid that value..... but it's only an indication of his worth. To break the contract though Smith would still want his money. As Salford wanted him they are able to convince him by improving his terms so no big deal to Smith.

However Mellors isn't wanted so badly so we want rid more than they want to buy so everyone knows we will probably let him go for free.....but in that case Mellors has a right to say he doesn't want to break the contract unless he gets the same money. If not from new team then from us......so not worth the sale.

So which players have hull signed from a club in admin?

I suppose you could say they got a full set for nothing from Gateshead.

Dont know for definite but wasnt Sam Obst to Hull around the time of our period in admin??

Sure was.

Completely agree and have said exactly the same. Running a RL club just isn't the same as running any other business, not when fans and expectation are added to the mix.

under what valuation principle was the contract worth 400k?

at the end of the day the value is what the highest bidder is willing to pay to release a player for that contract and I can't imagine any superleague player's contract is worth 400k in the current climate.

I presume he meant that Chase had another two years on his contract at Cas, getting around £200k per year, however as you say that is irrelevant.

180k + 1K a game. So the value of his 2 years was 400k. I used it as an example of why contracts mean jack all when it comes to fees.

wow 1 player, shame on us for being predators!

Not Amor - he's still ours until 31st Oct.

but that value is surely to him and not the club



like what's been mention a player is only worth what other clubs are willing to pay hence the reason your way from the mark you THINK he's worth.

put this to you then, why didn' Salford double the fee for him then if his contract was worth that much to Cas, because they could get someone else for less
supply and demand.

you should of done better with your maths at school

Can someone confirm :- we have sold amor for £50,000 maybe Ben C FOR £30,000 but also have we not sold 1000 season tickets possibly £100,000 so is that £150/180,000 off the £400,000 figure?.

Cant imagine the sold season tickets are included in the 400k at all

We haven't sold 1,000 ST's since that figure was announced, but there have some in-roads into it.

Sorry to sound repetitive - but Monday is the opportunity to find out these things.