Not really. The Wakey fans seem to have a bit more about them unlike Cas fans who seem to have a misguided opinion that they are a powerhouse of superleague who it is every players dream to play for.

Good luck to Wakey. Hope you get it all sorted earlier than we did and can bring in a few players for the new season.

Its ok saying get behind the club but times are hard and some cant simply conjure money out of a black bag or magic hat.We need to remember some of those fans have familys and one of the most expensive months is just coming to an end (holidays with the Children and just going back to school new uniform etc) so some wont be able to renew season tickets at the moment.Perhaps some of those employed by the club should be working harder to bring money in and keep them in work through sponsership etc.

I wonder how much Newmarket delays have been a factor.

My theory behind the season ticket discounts was that it was a way of building a real groundswell going into Newmarket, at which time the prices can go up, the overheads go down, and you have a sustainable business model. Income equals expenditure. Are we a year behind on Newmarket, thus making the idea unsustainable as it stands?

Cheap season tickets are always a loss-leader in the short term, as selling 4,000 at half-price is worse than selling 2,000 at full price, as you lose the extra "on the day" money the other 2,000 would have brought. Has the problem arisen because the short-term loss-leader become a mid-term and maybe longer-term one?

Now if they can just find these mystical investors waiting in the wings that keep on getting talked about and maybe things will work out. The last two years, however, we have probably been operating on an income that was based upon a gate of 5,000 or less because of the discounts, not the 8,000 average we've actually been getting.

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Make some redundancies from the non playing staff starting with Elston, Fozzard and others. Recruit volunteers to help with the running of the ground to cut back on costs.

What has Fozzard brought into the club in terms of finances? Elston has almost sunk the ship twice at the helm and he needs to walk the plank surely? Didn't he buy Mellars? That alone is enough.
We should get rid of the word Wildcat in the teams name and return to the nickname of the dreadnoughts we sink financially that often.

Why will volunteers be better qualified than an ex player?

Like WISCA for instance.

Volunteers cost nowt.

They won't in most cases but they are cheaper.

It is possible if you ask for help that better qualified people will step in.

Jeez, my daughter was lucky to get a biscuit and a can of pop after dancing, and that was in winter

The playing staff as far as I know are not afford
As far as I know it's only the back office staff that were given a pay cut.
I would discount the rest.

Sigh....

Almost ... Word for word like I heard when Skerrett was sold... And Nigel Wright... And Danny Brough...

Personally
I don't rate Smith in the category of these other players, but the principle is the same.

Poor stuff from Carter, and even poorer stuff from Glover, who clearly ran away from the hard decisions.

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I think it's great from carter tbh on the flip side. He clearly has set out his stall and has made the hard decision you say others shirked.

Good on him. Make a hard decision now and try and stabilise the club properly.

What's the alternative? Wait it out and come a few months in pre season be forced to sell 2/3 players at a low rate in desperation to clear the same bills to stave off for 2014.

Great decision. Obviously in playing terms as fans not the best but as far as management decisions go. It's a positive move for the club.

Why so?

Like you said you've heard it before but doesn't that show what a extremely hard job it is to run a club with no multi-millionaire owners and no 12K+ crowds. Fans want a decent team on the field, so we can at least contest for the top 8 but a lot also want to pay naff all for their season tickets.

I've got nothing but admiration for these guys who basically give their hard earned cash to the club for basically nothing, I won't do it with mine.

As for selling Smith, I like him and what he does but it's hard to knock an offer back like that considering the situation.

Has any figure been put on the deal??

£150k I'm told we turned down for DK but nobody is disclosing the figure for Smith?

Easy for you to say in cash rich Aussie- there just aint the money over here for all the clubs.

First off i agree Trojan, he had no choice but to sell him and imo he did the right thing.

Lets not be blaming him for sorting out the mess he got left with, AG and JE are the reason this mess needs sorting and it needed sorting on friday not next week or the week after.

We now have a small chance with MC running the show to survive, cos beleive me we had no chance at all before.

Is Fozzard qualified in Marketing/Advertising/Sponsorship generation or running the ball in hard on a rugby field and stiff arming opposing players in defence? How does this help with his business position at the club?
He gets paid which should be performance related in any case ..... what has he done since he arrived? Those Wakefield supporters that are trained/experienced in this area and semi retired may be able to offer their services if not in this area but in other areas of the club? The most important point I was trying to make is that they would be unpaid and off the wage bill. A similar thing has been done on a volunteer scouting scheme that was launched last year.

Other cost saving ideas get volunteers to run the club shop like they do the charity shops and save money there. Or even just has an on-line shop instead and save on thousands on the costs of business premises costs at the Ridings by closing them down. Any publicity events open up the shop at the ground and get the players to serve customers!



We need a rugby team on the field so all non playing staff should be shown the door and made redundant and costs such as the shop closed down ASAP if its as bad as suggested. All merchandising must be done on line to save costs or sold on match day from the shop there by volunteers.

The only problem with using volunteers instead of paid staff if that we are supposed to be a professional sports club, and should be run like a business as one should be.

We are not too far away from the days when the board relied far too heavily on volunteers, and that didn't work out in the club being well run did it?

Said from day 1 that we shouldn't treat Glover as some kind of messiah. Yes, his money "saved" the club at that point, but I fully believe there will not be a point in my lifetime where this club, in some form, does not exist.

You can fool double glazing punters with hype but you can't fool that majority of rugby league supporters, only the few who hero worship owners and chairmen in the hope of picking up crumbs from the top table.

Club statement ? Sounds familiar ? Isn't this the very same statement AG Made when he took over. Apart from a few figures changed to protect the guilty. Some have welcomed it as open and honest.If so why does it not explain why we are in this mess again so soon after the last debacle. why not say if JE is still involved. AG was not open and honest., If just told you the bits that suited him .MC is doing the same. How long before if starts employing his friends and. family .How much is he actually going to put in to the club. Probably no greater percentage of his income/wealth than I am or any other committed supporter. We need to in back to being a MEMBERS club. Where being a member means you have a say in running a club. Electing a committee to oversee and monitor the clubs employees. A radical idea ? Well no. It's just how clubs used to be run before we trusted in corrupt business men .

Welcome to the part time Championships in that case

Wakefield must be the worst run club in Rugby League, this must p*** the fans off, going bust every other week.

Probably no better or worse than any other club

The sooner RL wakes up and smells the coffee the better the game cannot sustain full time professionalism since SL started Wakefield Halifax Oldham Hull Paris Workington Leigh Castleford Celtic London Bradford Widnes Hull KR Salford Sheffield others not in SL have had problems Dewsbury Featherstone KeighleyHunslet Swinton Barrow have all being bust or have had real money problems others like Huddersfield Warrington St Helens and now Salford are propped up by sugar daddies the game is in a mess
My love for Wakefield will never die my love of RL and the farce that SL has brought to the game has.
I will not attend today or next week I will not allow a knee jerk to the situation I need time to consider renewing my season ticket and continuing to pay into the 1873 If JE was to be sacked the decision maybe easier

i love the club but sometimes you just get worn down by it all. it just gos on and on. ag hasnt become a successful business man by being thick even he knows you cant spend what you havnt got, so why let it get so far out of control again.