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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Although some of the comments are close to the bone, I don't think they're borne from missing out on the 8. More so the financial status of the club after just two years of having a relatively clean slate.'"
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| The attack on Sarah Elston is uncalled for and downright disgraceful; it is frustrating however, that two years on from administration we find ourselves having more financial troubles and so James Elston as the CEO cannot be immune from criticism and must be held accountable.
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| =#FF0000If anyone cares to use the report button to highlight any concerns on posts made then they will get looked into.
Otherwise we can't/won't act on what some posters like or don't like to see on this board.
1 threads locked but will remain available to Mods/Admin for any reference if needed, the other can stay for now.
You are responsible for the posts you make and can be held accountable.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"As fans we should complain about missing the 8, it should have been within our grasp this year.
Financial status of the club - I'm not on the board or a shareholder so have no real idea whats going on or what may be in the pipeline for the future. I'm interested in the team, not the corporate side of things. I do what I can by buying ST etc, but unless I win Euromillions (must check!) the business side is of little more than passing interest to me.'"
But you and all the supporters should be interested in the financial side of things as it directly relates to what happens on the pitch. If we are skint the the playing budget suffers and the quality of players we have reduces. And ccj's and wup's are not going going to look good when a player is deciding which club to join. Not paying suppliers gets us a bad reputation meaning the better companies won't deal with us and we are left with either cheaper, lower quality merchandise or using small companies that can't produce big enough numbers to satisfy demand. The same goes for other suppliers at the club, catering, equipment etc.
The finances affect everything and are THE most important aspect of the club. As fans we can only do so much, its then up the the powers that be to take that and the sky money, sponsorship etc and spend it wisely. To go from a clean slate to on the brink again in a little over two years is very worrying and doesn't reflect well on anyone involved. Especially when the current ceo was in charge last time it happened. Rightly people are going to start asking questions, it just a case of making sure it is done in the correct manner.
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| I've got enough problems worrying about my own finances without worrying about the clubs. Rugby League is my means of escaping them for a couple of hours. It would be nice to win a few more, but Wakey fans are used to not winning - gives us something to moan about!
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| We will never be able to spend to the full cap until we stop selling season tickets for next to nothing.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"To go from a clean slate to on the brink again in a little over two years is very worrying'"
And yet the only thing that tells you we're 'on the brink' is rumour and conjecture on an internet message board; the owner did his best in a recent statement to put the financial position into perspective, but for those people with a persistently gloomy outlook, that doesn't trump what gets said on here.
It's a shame - the whole forum has been taken over by the doom and gloom brigade, to the point where it seems that pretty much anyone is fair game.
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| Quote ="Horbury Cat"At last people are starting to see this man for the joker that he is, I find it hard to believe that AG has taken so long to see what an booty he is, lets remember he is all about himself think back to when he went to KR thinking the grass was greener then came back and put a knife in the back of Francis Stephenson yes and from reports from the club he is the reason players have left the club for like has already has been stated he tries to tell players who were ten times the player that he was ever likely to be. What He needs to stick to is picking up second rate dancers promoting them into a field they are quite clearly inept at and aspiring and go to a club like Rochdale second rate player second rate chief exec. Rant over'"
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| Can't understand the animosity towards SE - I'd certainly take her on and I'm sure many others would. She is a real Pro in her job. Classy lady.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Can't understand the animosity towards SE - I'd certainly take her on and I'm sure many others would. She is a real Pro in her job. Classy lady.'"
Sadly, to some, I think she's collateral damage thanks to her husband.
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| Quote ="bren2k"[uAnd yet the only thing that tells you we're 'on the brink' is rumour and conjecture on an internet message board;[/u the owner [udid his best in a recent statement to put the financial position into perspective,[/u but for those people with a persistently gloomy outlook, that doesn't trump what gets said on here.
It's a shame - the whole forum has been taken over by the doom and gloom brigade, to the point where it seems that pretty much anyone is fair game.'"
So we can discount the Wup's and the ccj's, the pay cuts for the staff and the ballifs at the club then, if any of those are in doubt for just being message board rumour, ask Davide or James.
We did not lose 240k from France and no amount of "salepitch" will change that, we lost a monthly payment for x amount of months untill the new deal kicked in, then we have a loss from that amount to the France payments.
If you see that as doom and glooming then so be it, to me its more like facing up to whats actually happened.
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| Quote ="El Rey"So we can discount the Wup's and the ccj's, the pay cuts for the staff and the ballifs at the club then, if any of those are in doubt for just being message board rumour, ask Davide or James.'"
I'm not discounting pay cuts for staff or bailiffs at the club, as I don't know anything about them; is this new information?
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| Quote ="bren2k"I'm not discounting pay cuts for staff or bailiffs at the club, as I don't know anything about them; is this new information?'"
Like i said, ask the people at the club, that way its not just rumour.
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| So much negativity - it makes you want to slit your wrists reading SOME of the posts on here. I really think some of the posters want the club to fail so they can say 'told you so'. It's pathetic.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Like i said, ask the people at the club, that way its not just rumour.'"
So as things stand you're spreading rumours?!
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| I have been reading this board for over 4 years now and can't believe some of the things people are saying in the direction of the Elston's.
who brought Glover to the board room?
Who worked hard to get a super league license?
Who put the roof on the ground?
Who increased supporter numbers?
If you can do better then please contact the club with your CV and explain how you can repair the hole in funds left by a big sponsor going into admin due to tax issues.
They may not be perfect but every time I have spoken to James he has been passionate, loyal and wanting to make Wakey a success.
Stop hiding behind a keyboard and support the club one we would not have if the Elston's simply walked away just 2 years ago!
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"So as things stand you're spreading rumours?!'"
If as he has stated, his source is the club I can't see how you come up with that.
Perhaps daddy cool can spread some light on the matter, unless he just dismisses the things that aren't right and leaves well alone the stuff that's true.
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| Quote ="wakeyrule"So as things stand you're spreading rumours?!'"
El Rey, why should anyone quiz the club about rumours started on this forum. It is about time you stopped twisting the knife,fueling the fire for all the nutjobs coming out of the woodwork and stick to moderating, or give up that privelege.
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| Quote ="TRT"El Rey, why should anyone quiz the club about rumours started on this forum. It is about time you stopped twisting the knife,fueling the fire for all the nutjobs coming out of the woodwork and stick to moderating, or give up that privelege.'"
so your knocking him for speaking the truth are you, take it you dont have a clue whats going on, not like some of us on here
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| Quote ="TRT"El Rey, why should anyone quiz the club about rumours started on this forum. It is about time you stopped twisting the knife,fueling the fire for all the nutjobs coming out of the woodwork and stick to moderating, or give up that privelege.'"
And if it happens to be correct?
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| Quote ="Theboyem"And if it happens to be correct?'"
The 'if' says its a rumour. Even if it is true, its not his responsibility to spread the dirt on corporate matters. Bitch about the team, the ground, the stands til you're blue in the face, but until you buy into the business - it ain't none of yours.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"And if it happens to be correct?'"
Do I see the word if in that sentence?
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| Quote ="El Rey"So we can discount the Wup's and the ccj's, the pay cuts for the staff and the ballifs at the club then, if any of those are in doubt for just being message board rumour, [uask Davide or James.[/u'"
Your answer lies here here if you are unsure.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Your answer lies here here if you are unsure.'"
For the avoidance of doubt - IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS!
How would you feel if your neighbours started talking about your income, debts, financial aptitude?
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| Quote ="TRT"El Rey, why should anyone quiz the club about rumours started on this forum. It is about time you stopped twisting the knife,fueling the fire for all the nutjobs coming out of the woodwork and stick to moderating, or give up that privelege.'"
As long as the questions are questions and the opinions are opinions, and not statements of fact, he's entitled to post what he wants, moderator or not.
FWIW, I'm on your side, not because I'm on the inside track, but because I trust in common sense. That may be my downfall though, and yours too, unless you know something that's worth sharing to dampen the hysteria.
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